Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Hmmm. Does it mean that (all real programmers use vi and all real programmers use perl) or that (a programmer using vi is real and a programmer using perl is real) or that (a programmer not using vi or not using perl is virtual)? Am I ok wrt to speculations at least? (To be real or to be virtual? That is the question...) Rodolphe Actually virtual programmers are all the rage right now, so maybe using perl and/or vi actually *IS* outdated. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Yes, that's pointless. Let's get back to more productive debates, like the respective merits of using emacs or vi for $your_favorite_task_here, or even maybe python or perl as a default scripting language for the Neo. Ok. Only real programmers use vi. Only real programmers use perl. Anything else and you are just kidding yourself. Well now thats done are you ready to go back to speculating? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Le lundi 08 octobre 2007 à 09:18 -0500, Jonathon Suggs a écrit : Rodolphe Ortalo wrote: Yes, that's pointless. Let's get back to more productive debates, like the respective merits of using emacs or vi for $your_favorite_task_here, or even maybe python or perl as a default scripting language for the Neo. Ok. Only real programmers use vi. Only real programmers use perl. Anything else and you are just kidding yourself. Well now thats done are you ready to go back to speculating? Hmmm. Does it mean that (all real programmers use vi and all real programmers use perl) or that (a programmer using vi is real and a programmer using perl is real) or that (a programmer not using vi or not using perl is virtual)? Am I ok wrt to speculations at least? (To be real or to be virtual? That is the question...) Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 11:35 -0700, Michael Shiloh a écrit : Ok, that does it. No more pictures for my presentations! From now on my presentation tool will be vi. Hmmm, I wonder if using emacs would not be a better idea for putting an end to all these speculations? [...] I know that to some extent the community tries to infer as much as possible out of every word we utter and picture we show because we have not been good at getting information to you. Again, my job is to improve this, and I really intend to make this better. Yes, that's pointless. Let's get back to more productive debates, like the respective merits of using emacs or vi for $your_favorite_task_here, or even maybe python or perl as a default scripting language for the Neo. :-)) Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On 10/5/07, Jimmy McMillan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Shiloh wrote: Ok, that does it. No more pictures for my presentations! From now on my presentation tool will be vi. vi FTW!!! Complete with ASCII pictures, I hope. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
On 10/6/07, Rodolphe Ortalo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le vendredi 05 octobre 2007 à 11:35 -0700, Michael Shiloh a écrit : Ok, that does it. No more pictures for my presentations! From now on my presentation tool will be vi. Hmmm, I wonder if using emacs would not be a better idea for putting an end to all these speculations? [...] I know that to some extent the community tries to infer as much as possible out of every word we utter and picture we show because we have not been good at getting information to you. Again, my job is to improve this, and I really intend to make this better. Yes, that's pointless. Let's get back to more productive debates, like the respective merits of using emacs or vi for $your_favorite_task_here, or even maybe python or perl as a default scripting language for the Neo. ruby, srsly :-)) Rodolphe ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New TOP SECRET OM device??
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have found a nice picture from mobileCampLondon http://www.flickr.com/photos/semiot/1471861932/ Can somebody tell us what would be this TOP SECRET device? When we will be able to buy it? Will it have all the hardware advantages of GTA02? (GPS, WiFi etc.)? What will be new? I know what TOP SECRET mean, but I want to know if it's worth to wait for new device when I have no money to buy both. Thanks, Krzysiek Bielicki -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHBngyIS0NdrvoyHoRAoR4AJ4nkrDM9B4DWCBoyfOSS3qK8xy2HgCfbVd7 YAt0xYAgG9c8pXm+sD6fJl0= =KQRo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Is it just me, or does that TOP SECRET device look a LOT like an iPhone? Maybe they're doing away with the rounded corners that some people here despised. -Steven On 10/5/07, Krzysiek Bielicki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have found a nice picture from mobileCampLondon http://www.flickr.com/photos/semiot/1471861932/ Can somebody tell us what would be this TOP SECRET device? When we will be able to buy it? Will it have all the hardware advantages of GTA02? (GPS, WiFi etc.)? What will be new? I know what TOP SECRET mean, but I want to know if it's worth to wait for new device when I have no money to buy both. Thanks, Krzysiek Bielicki -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHBngyIS0NdrvoyHoRAoR4AJ4nkrDM9B4DWCBoyfOSS3qK8xy2HgCfbVd7 YAt0xYAgG9c8pXm+sD6fJl0= =KQRo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Hi, On Friday 05 October 2007 19:45:22 Krzysiek Bielicki wrote: I have found a nice picture from mobileCampLondon http://www.flickr.com/photos/semiot/1471861932/ Can somebody tell us what would be this TOP SECRET device? When we will be able to buy it? Will it have all the hardware advantages of GTA02? (GPS, WiFi etc.)? What will be new? It is captured from a slide of the presentation of Michael Shiloh: http://blip.tv/file/407837 At minute 9:50 he tells that it isn't a secret but they didn't defined it... I know what TOP SECRET mean, but I want to know if it's worth to wait for new device when I have no money to buy both. I somewhere heared, that the follower of the GTA02 will be a larger device. Therfore, the GTA02 will be my choice. Furthermore, I can't wait any longer :-) Greetings, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Ok, that does it. No more pictures for my presentations! From now on my presentation tool will be vi. There are no secret projects plans, and DEFINITELY no plans to make an iPhone like device That third picture is just mean to represent that the Neo line does not end with the GTA02, and that future devices will have different mixes of hardware and software features. For instance, we know that we have to do something with 3G. I don't know yet whether we've put any time into this yet. I rather doubt it, since, as you all know, we're all super busy just trying to get GTA02 out. I expect that issues of open source drivers will be the deciding and limiting factor here. I know that to some extent the community tries to infer as much as possible out of every word we utter and picture we show because we have not been good at getting information to you. Again, my job is to improve this, and I really intend to make this better. Michael Steven ** wrote: Is it just me, or does that TOP SECRET device look a LOT like an iPhone? Maybe they're doing away with the rounded corners that some people here despised. -Steven On 10/5/07, *Krzysiek Bielicki* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have found a nice picture from mobileCampLondon http://www.flickr.com/photos/semiot/1471861932/ Can somebody tell us what would be this TOP SECRET device? When we will be able to buy it? Will it have all the hardware advantages of GTA02? (GPS, WiFi etc.)? What will be new? I know what TOP SECRET mean, but I want to know if it's worth to wait for new device when I have no money to buy both. Thanks, Krzysiek Bielicki -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHBngyIS0NdrvoyHoRAoR4AJ4nkrDM9B4DWCBoyfOSS3qK8xy2HgCfbVd7 YAt0xYAgG9c8pXm+sD6fJl0= =KQRo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
On Friday 05 October 2007 20:35:13 Michael Shiloh wrote: I know that to some extent the community tries to infer as much as possible out of every word we utter and picture we show because we have not been good at getting information to you. Again, my job is to improve this, and I really intend to make this better. So what is HXD8 all about :P SCNR signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Gabriel Ambuehl skrev: So what is HXD8 all about :P From what I herd it's 'not a phone'. But I got a strange feeling that I want it when it is reveald what it is :-) Damned, how shall we find time hacking on OpenMoko when we need spend all time on making more money? God news! My GTA01 have shipped: PHILADELPHIA, PA, US 10/05/2007 12:53 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN Still a far way from Sweden :-/ /LaH ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Okay so I confer that GTA03 will use vi for user interface =8^) Then we can have vi versus emacs wars too hehe Doug Sutherland Proficio Research http://www.proficio.ca/ ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
