Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-28 Thread Federico Lorenzi
I'm interested but I'm in South Africa and your email said only around SF.

On 7/27/08, Ken Restivo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, andres wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote:
>>
>> >  Hi there,
>> >  Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are
>> >  you doing with your new device?
>>
>
>
> Right now I'm trying to sell it.
>
> Is there any aftermarket for these things?
>
> I'm getting a bit terrified since there has been no interest in my GTA02 for
> sale, and AFAICT the things are sold out.
>
> I can't afford to have a very expensive paperweight sitting around that I
> don't have time to fiddle around with.
>
> -ken
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-27 Thread Ken Restivo
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, andres wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote:
> 
> >  Hi there,
> >  Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are
> >  you doing with your new device?
> 


Right now I'm trying to sell it.

Is there any aftermarket for these things?

I'm getting a bit terrified since there has been no interest in my GTA02 for 
sale, and AFAICT the things are sold out.

I can't afford to have a very expensive paperweight sitting around that I don't 
have time to fiddle around with.

-ken

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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-27 Thread William Lai
Jay Vaughan wrote:
>> 1. there is a universe of unconnected contributions (ie "I packaged  
>> smth
>> which is not in the official repository",
> 
> what official repository (which Freerunner distro is that, anyway),  
> and how do i put something in it? as a new app developer for  
> Freerunner, i have to say: the flow of the public repo's is not clear.
> 

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CommunityRepository
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Create_package_on_projects.openmoko.org_and_upload

Please help promote this :)


Regards,

Will


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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-26 Thread rakshat hooja
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 1:13 AM, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> what official repository (which Freerunner distro is that, anyway),
> and how do i put something in it? as a new app developer for
> Freerunner, i have to say: the flow of the public repo's is not clear.
> ;
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>
>
See

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-26 Thread Jay Vaughan
> 1. there is a universe of unconnected contributions (ie "I packaged  
> smth
> which is not in the official repository",

what official repository (which Freerunner distro is that, anyway),  
and how do i put something in it? as a new app developer for  
Freerunner, i have to say: the flow of the public repo's is not clear.
;
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-26 Thread Jay Vaughan
> Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are  
> you doing with your new device?
>


Developing for it.  I've got mine set up with the 2007.2 image, I  
haven't re-flashed it once personally, just "opkg upgraded" myself  
along, and I got it set up with at least the functions I need - phone,  
GPS, and compiling.  ;)

That said, I would *love* to know of the tricky/nice/interesting  
things that people are managing to do with their Freerunners .. while  
I've got a game (swar) and some tutorial/test code (bling) on the  
development workbench for the Freerunner right now, I sure would like  
to know what else I can do with this cool little device for fun?

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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
sorry for a silly follow-up but 

>reading a lot about it,
LOL ;-)

it summarizes well activities of the hundreds I bet...

may be it is because

1. there is a universe of unconnected contributions (ie "I packaged smth
which is not in the official repository", or "I've fixed this via ")
ie. there is no transparent and generic plan/HOWTO on how contributions
are submitted/adopted to be used by the masses with a simple 'opkg
upgrade'. There is no distributed allocation of duties/privileges in
respect to packages (like in Debian and without any flavor of which
community project is not a community project any longer -- even
khe Ubuntu has their MOTUs ;) ), thus any update in official
repository takes too long (look at tangogps for which upstream has
up-to-date version but OM's repository lacks it). or where is minimo
which was already packaged and there is wiki instructions on the web?

I already have my own set of scripts to bring 2007.2 to a usable
state for me... just not sure where to place it to make public (not just
a blog/wiki page about it since that is of limited affect)

2. "is it in wiki? yes! in the page buga_biga_boom which you could reach
after going through buga1, buga2 and buga3 or searching for buga1 buga2
buga_whatever_irrelevant)". sure -- wiki is improving since people
mentioned amount of redundancy in its content, but wiki shouldn't be a
collection of addendums of the ad-hoc scripts to complement official
distribution, it should serve as a nice documentation.

sorry for a bit of sarcasm ;-) but it seems OM is missing some basic
community organization at the moment (I guess they are too busy with
reinventing the wheel via a child of their own - illume and an
autohiding keyboard so you don't type whenever YOU want, and that
is their mistake imho)

:-P

P.S. it is not to start a heavy finger-pointing discussion, it is just
me after having some beer ;-)

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, andres wrote:

>On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote:

>  Hi there,
>  Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are
>  you doing with your new device?

>reading a lot about it,
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Breakable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you doing
> with your new device?

Mainly I am testing GPS functions. I am currently not using the
FreeRunner as my main phone, mainly becase my main phone is a work
phone with business mail on it. I might use the FR as my peronal phone
in the future.

Other than that I am installing, testing and using as much as I can on
the FR. Currently I am testing the ASU image / stack.
I have just recently learned how to use the ASU (Qtopia?) keyboard,
and find it working quite well.
Now all I need is national characters (I'm Norwegian so that means
æøåÆØÅ) and a way to set up a national dictionary / word list for the
predictive keyboard (press-and-hold works, but is very slow) and I'll
be really happy with this keyboard.

I have not got Exposure to work yet, still working on that.
This is just a couple of examples of what I do with my FR.
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 25 July 2008, Alex Fitzpatrick wrote:
> arne anka wrote:
> > flashing u-boot and using a recent kernel makes suspend/resume working
> > rather acceptable (wakes up reliable and saves power, though it keeps
> > waking up frequently), may corrupt your sd card though, at least if the
> > 4gig.
>
> This may be an obvious question, but nonetheless:
>
> Will flashing u-boot effect the rest of my install or is it completely
> independant?

Completely independent.


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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread Alex Fitzpatrick
arne anka wrote:
> flashing u-boot and using a recent kernel makes suspend/resume working  
> rather acceptable (wakes up reliable and saves power, though it keeps  
> waking up frequently), may corrupt your sd card though, at least if the  
> 4gig.
>   

This may be an obvious question, but nonetheless: 

Will flashing u-boot effect the rest of my install or is it completely 
independant?

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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread andres
On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote:
> Hi there,
> Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you
> doing with your new device?

reading a lot about it,





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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread rakshat hooja
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Breakable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The power management was not good enough, even after the opkg upgrade.
> Seems not to go into suspend, because the battery gets depleted.
>
>
Did you change the power settings to "dim first and then lock"?  Thats what
enables suspend on the openmoko image. seems to be working fine on my phone.

Rakshat
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread arne anka
> Unfortunatly I was not able to get GPS show up onthe TangoGPS, even when  
> the
> command line seems to be working.

gpsd seems not to be installed by default (and tangogps seems not to  
define a depency to pull it in automatically)


> I struggled to improve calling volume, but not very successfull. The  
> power
> management was not good enough, even after the opkg upgrade.
> Seems not to go into suspend, because the battery gets depleted.

did you upgrade the software and flash the uboot?
calling volume is surpringly enough _not_ controlled by the slider in the  
dialer but only through alsamixer -- once you foudn a nice setting you can  
store it and it will come back everytime you call.

flashing u-boot and using a recent kernel makes suspend/resume working  
rather acceptable (wakes up reliable and saves power, though it keeps  
waking up frequently), may corrupt your sd card though, at least if the  
4gig.
you need to change the powermanagement to "dim first, lock then" (shortly  
press power button).

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Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread Breakable
Hi there,
Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are you doing
with your new device?

I just got my GTA02 three days ago. I am trying to get it work like a normal
phone for now.
I tried using OpenMoko os for a while and was impressed with the ammount of
packages in the repository.
Unfortunatly I was not able to get GPS show up onthe TangoGPS, even when the
command line seems to be working.
I struggled to improve calling volume, but not very successfull. The power
management was not good enough, even after the opkg upgrade.
Seems not to go into suspend, because the battery gets depleted.

Currently I flashed with the Qtopia instead. Now the software is a little
more reliable, much nicer UI, but no repository ! :(
And the suspend seems to hang after a really long time, only thing helps is
removing the battery.

I hope those issues will be resolved sometime soon, now that we have an
increasing developer base that have the new hardware.

So what are you doing?

Regards,
Breakable
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