Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 28.01.2013 um 03:06 schrieb Harry Prevor:

 On 11/10/12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote:
 On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:39 -0500
 Harry Prevor habsti...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 10/31/12, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote:
 Hi Paul,
 
 I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still
 today.
 
 Thanks for pointing it out.
 
 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi Harald, all,
 
 To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do
 so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
 
 Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
 to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
 only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
 very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
 few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
 forever. Please reconsider this.
 
 
 Neither of the two methods you mention actually stop spam being posted.
 Humans register and then post the spam.
 I'm sure that a few persons could have write access, and that the wiki
 owner could consider your request.
 
 Well, it's been over two months and the wiki is still read-only. I was
 under the impression this was supposed to be temporary; when will this
 be fixed? I often find incorrect information in wiki articles and I'm
 all-too-frequently frustrated by the fact that I can't fix it.

Openmoko is dead - long live OpenPhoenux :)

-- hns

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread robin
true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which
is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at gta04.org
but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain information 
on openphoenux

robin


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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller

Am 28.01.2013 um 16:12 schrieb robin:

 true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which
 is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at 
 gta04.org
 but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain 
 information 
 on openphoenux

gta04.org is intended for information on GTA04 only,

while

openphoenux.org is intended for and open for any GTA0x.

I am not sure if it is possible to copy the MediaWiki from wiki.openmoko.org
to openphoenux.org (is there read access to the database? does it break links?).

And an important question is to find a handful of volunteers to moderate and 
clean it up.

Nikolaus



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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2013-01-28 Thread robin
if the wiki can indeed be transferred, maybe you can do an official posting on
who would like to apply for write access. I would certainly like to tidy up
a couple of pages and add more recent information, but reading the gmane list
there are many others willing to do so as well.

br

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-12 Thread Jose Luis Perez Diez
El Sunday 11 November 2012 01:16:03 Paul Wise va escriure:
 On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote:
 
  Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
  to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
  only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
  very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
  few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
  forever. Please reconsider this.
 
 The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam
 mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had
 time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team.
 Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam
 stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald.

I was marking the pages as spam  puting them for speedy deletion and
stoped doing it to create a Perl bot so I can automate the process 
(lasty it were near a 100 pages daily).

I spend some days geting data and training classifiers and geting some vacation 
for Hallowen (in a place with bad GSM coverage) and after it linuxcon
and elce in Barcelona my home town and preparing a Perl course (held the last 
saturday)
with the local mongers had wasted my free time to read the list.

The bot is not ready but I have the title off all the pages with some of them 
clasified to
be used as traning or test sets.

You can count with my help (be it data or write acces of any kind).


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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-11 Thread Troy Benjegerdes
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 08:16:03AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote:
 
  Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
  to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
  only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
  very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
  few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
  forever. Please reconsider this.
 
 The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam
 mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had
 time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team.
 Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam
 stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald.
 

How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd 
really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the 
mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git,
and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with 
OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches'
back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching
to the mediawiki software than I want to think about.

I'd also like to be able to put the contents of the OpenMoko wiki on
a Wikireader, and having the DB would make this a bit easier.

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-11 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:

 How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd
 really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the
 mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git,
 and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with
 OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches'
 back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching
 to the mediawiki software than I want to think about.

Timo made a dump a while ago, I guess you should use his tools:

http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/wiki.openmoko.org/mirror-tools/

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bye,
pabs

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-10 Thread Harry Prevor
On 10/31/12, Harald Welte lafo...@gnumonks.org wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still
 today.

 Thanks for pointing it out.

 On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi Harald, all,

 To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so
 since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:

 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
forever. Please reconsider this.

-- 
Harry Prevor

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-11-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote:

 Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have
 to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users
 only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still
 very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a
 few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly
 forever. Please reconsider this.

The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam
mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had
time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team.
Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam
stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/


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OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-10-31 Thread Paul Wise
Hi Harald, all,

To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so
since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

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pabs

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Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam

2012-10-31 Thread Harald Welte
Hi Paul,

I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still
today.

Thanks for pointing it out.

On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
 Hi Harald, all,
 
 To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so
 since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that:
 
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges
 
 -- 
 bye,
 pabs
 
 http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/



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