Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
2009/2/23 Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org: What plans are there for I18N of Paroli? I'd like to already start doing initial translations for various Paroli applications, but I do not see gettext usage / .pot files etc yet. I have to admit right now there are no plans as such. I guess using gettext for the python things would not be too difficult, Yes, it shouldn't, import gettext and [build_i18n] section in the setup.cfg, but it would be good to setup early so that developers learn to start using _(text) macro everywhere for strings and the POT file generation is initialized. however I do see a problem with the text that is stored in the edc files + the grafik files used. And afaik most of the text in paroli actually is in image files for now and thus are compiled into the theme. Any solutions for this anywhere? I have no idea I18N should work in Enlightenment edc files. It brought to my mind the GOS based (and thus Enlightenment based) computer sold on Walmart for mass markets, but it was only USA so they probably didn't need translations for everything. Is it possible to avoid text in edc files? For images, I guess it would be okayish to use normal locale information to open banner_LANGUAGE.png, like banner_fi.png, in all places where such images with text are used, and give easy-to-change GIMP .xcf files for the community where the text part can be easily changed. .xcf so that the text would be editable and font type and size would be in the file for changing, in addition to possibility of having different layers. If there is text in an image, it's probable they won't get changed that often so the translation burden should be on ok level as well. But I do not know about edc files. Does someone else have experience? -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
Hi, Brenda Wang wrote I have updated the Paroli 's information on Wiki page. And continued maintain this page. Feel free to use it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli Great, thx. I changed the links a bit to match the new locations. /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
2009/2/23 Brenda Wang brenda_w...@openmoko.com: I have updated the Paroli 's information on Wiki page. And continued maintain this page. Feel free to use it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli What plans are there for I18N of Paroli? I'd like to already start doing initial translations for various Paroli applications, but I do not see gettext usage / .pot files etc yet. Just as a random example of a Python program using gettext, see https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/usb-creator/trunk I recently patched it so that all aspects of i18n work there, including getting .desktop file entries translatable via PO files. build_i18n of setup.py is the key, see also setup.cfg and deskop/usb-creator.desktop.in on how to handle .desktop files, and finally of course some bit of the code to see gettext usage in action. Since Paroli's .desktop files are currently all in one directory, and applications tend to be small, I'd vote for one single .pot file for the whole paroli at this point - it would collect all the translations and also paroli would use a single translation domain paroli. Does that sound sensible? -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
Hi, Timo Jyrinki wrote: What plans are there for I18N of Paroli? I'd like to already start doing initial translations for various Paroli applications, but I do not see gettext usage / .pot files etc yet. I have to admit right now there are no plans as such. I guess using gettext for the python things would not be too difficult, however I do see a problem with the text that is stored in the edc files + the grafik files used. And afaik most of the text in paroli actually is in image files for now and thus are compiled into the theme. Any solutions for this anywhere? /mirko ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org wrote: Thanks Mirko for your update, nice to hear what's up. Would it be possible to post these updates on the community list every second week or every now and then - and also encourage the others to do the same. I remember seeing some Paroli reports here but other than that only very little information from openmoko:/ r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
Risto H. Kurppa ??: On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Mirko Lindner mi...@openmoko.org wrote: Thanks Mirko for your update, nice to hear what's up. Would it be possible to post these updates on the community list every second week or every now and then - and also encourage the others to do the same. I remember seeing some Paroli reports here but other than that only very little information from openmoko:/ Hi: I have updated the Paroli 's information on Wiki page. And continued maintain this page. Feel free to use it. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli Brenda r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
On Fri, February 20, 2009 05:32, Mirko Lindner wrote: - keep on fixing issues in MS2 - continue working towards MS3 - get the kbd to match paroli on the image - get messaging and contacts up and running as soon as possible to allow brave testers to use paroli daily ... any volunteers ? ;) No need to wait. I have been using Paroli as my daily phone software on FSO MS5 for almost 2 weeks. It has been extremely stable. A bunch of functionality is not there yet but the one basic thing that has just worked is as a phone. Dialing works, answering works, ringing works. I was updating from GIT daily until a couple of days ago when the package in unstable became available. I checked last night and the most recent package was up to the very last commit in GIT so that synchronization is working well. And again if anyone is interested in helping out with paroli, contribute code or test or or or ... Let us know! I am interested in helping out with the project initially as a tester but with code in the future as I figure this is a good excuse to learn python. I haven't to date as there was nothing approachable or interesting enough. The first thing I want to look at is the scrolling of contacts and messages. Currently, trying to capture the thumb on the scroll bar is exceedingly tedious. It will likely take me a couple of weeks to get productive as I fit this in with the rest of my work and life. Cheers Scott Petersen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Paroli Testing (Was: Community Updates/February 20, 2009 released)
Hi, Scott Petersen wrote: No need to wait. I have been using Paroli as my daily phone software on FSO MS5 for almost 2 weeks. It has been extremely stable. A bunch of functionality is not there yet but the one basic thing that has just worked is as a phone. Dialing works, answering works, ringing works. Great news! Thanks for sharing. Am more an sms guy myself so am trying to get that up and running right now. mind you it kinda works already, but I some nifty details are still missing. I was updating from GIT daily until a couple of days ago when the package in unstable became available. I checked last night and the most recent package was up to the very last commit in GIT so that synchronization is working well. Thanks to Angus again who has been very patient ;) And again if anyone is interested in helping out with paroli, contribute code or test or or or ... Let us know! I am interested in helping out with the project initially as a tester but with code in the future as I figure this is a good excuse to learn python. I haven't to date as there was nothing approachable or interesting enough. I hope we can fill that void, let me now if you have questions and/or ideas. mirko-paroli on irc. The first thing I want to look at is the scrolling of contacts and messages. Currently, trying to capture the thumb on the scroll bar is exceedingly tedious. It will likely take me a couple of weeks to get productive as I fit this in with the rest of my work and life. The scrolling issue comes from a bug in efl ... not sure if it is only the python-bindings but my feeling is it is efl itself, but I couldn't pin it down yet. We are going to play with the efl revision a bit next week. Thanks again and please keep us updated :) /mirko --- and don’t forget: website: http://www.paroli-project.org bug tracker: http://www.paroli-project.org/trac source: http://git.paroli-project.org api: http://www.paroli-project.org/api ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
