Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Laszlo
KREKACS wrote:
> Ebook reader.

I even found the first prototype;)
http://www.rob-matthews.com/index.php?/project/wikipedia/

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 04:14:34PM +0200, Laszlo KREKACS wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas
> Martinez wrote:
> >> Ebook reader.
> > by it size it must be a business card reader :P
> >>
> 
> Some sort of intelligent display. Like one can be found on bank automata.
> Or on information displays (buying ticket for the train,
> HMI interface in factories on big machines, etc).
> 
> So its basically a black and white display with an onscreen keypad, with
> a wifi connection. Easy to integrate, and easy to deploy.

Considering the device shown by Sean, squarish, full-screen, about as thin
or thinner than the FreeRunner, now it's been said it has three buttons...

I'd go for the media playing device, maybe even using www.rockbox.org :)

Rui

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread Orlando
An indestructible brick!  it is a what we called a "white weapon".

;-)


On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Laszlo KREKACS <
laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas
> Martinez wrote:
> >> Ebook reader.
> > by it size it must be a business card reader :P
> >>
>
> Some sort of intelligent display. Like one can be found on bank automata.
> Or on information displays (buying ticket for the train,
> HMI interface in factories on big machines, etc).
>
> So its basically a black and white display with an onscreen keypad, with
> a wifi connection. Easy to integrate, and easy to deploy.
>
> Just a hunch;)
>
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinez wrote:
>> Ebook reader.
> by it size it must be a business card reader :P
>>

Some sort of intelligent display. Like one can be found on bank automata.
Or on information displays (buying ticket for the train,
HMI interface in factories on big machines, etc).

So its basically a black and white display with an onscreen keypad, with
a wifi connection. Easy to integrate, and easy to deploy.

Just a hunch;)

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/11 Laszlo KREKACS :
> Ebook reader.
by it size it must be a business card reader :P
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Ebook reader.

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread tammaro "pamdirac" palombo
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Kosa  wrote:

> It doesn't have one, but theree buttons.
>
>

theree buttons? ... It must be a windows device :)

http://pagesperso-orange.fr/vdl19/Pages_Blagues/Images_blagues/Ctr_alt_del.jpg
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-11 Thread Yorick Moko
see below

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Kosa wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :)

Me too :p
> Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images
> and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell,
I didn't promise anybody anything :p

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
I think they have chose another form factor for this application :)

2009/6/11 jeremy jozwik :
> what about increase, decrease and stop vibration*?
>
> *openvibe ref
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Jeremy McNaughton
>  wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Kosa wrote:
>> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> > Hash: SHA1
>> >
>> > I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :)
>> >
>> > Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images
>> > and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, so I
>> > will not, but I can give some other hints :)
>> >
>> > It doesn't have one, but theree buttons.
>> >
>> > My dos centavos
>> >
>> > Kosa
>> >
>>
>>
>> My guess is a portable media player... reverse, play/pause, and forward.
>>
>> Jeremy
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread jeremy jozwik
what about increase, decrease and stop vibration*?

*openvibe ref

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:33 PM, Jeremy McNaughton <
jeremy.mcnaugh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Kosa wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :)
> >
> > Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images
> > and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, so I
> > will not, but I can give some other hints :)
> >
> > It doesn't have one, but theree buttons.
> >
> > My dos centavos
> >
> > Kosa
> >
>
>
> My guess is a portable media player... reverse, play/pause, and forward.
>
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Scott Talbot
Kosa wrote:
> I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :)
>
> Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images
> and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, so I
> will not, but I can give some other hints :)
>
> It doesn't have one, but theree buttons.

Wouldn't have been a video showing the fade rate of the LCD, would it?

Heh, I made no such promises. :P

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Jeremy McNaughton
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Kosa wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :)
>
> Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images
> and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, so I
> will not, but I can give some other hints :)
>
> It doesn't have one, but theree buttons.
>
> My dos centavos
>
> Kosa
>


My guess is a portable media player... reverse, play/pause, and forward.

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Kosa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

I'm not sure if I can share this, but I KNOW what it is :)

Sometime ago I clicked on the right (or wrong) place and I found images
and even a video about it. I promissed Wolfgang I wouldn't tell, so I
will not, but I can give some other hints :)

It doesn't have one, but theree buttons.

My dos centavos

Kosa

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Yorick Moko
an opensource ghostbuster trap?
http://img154.imageshack.us/i/ghosttrapmc5.jpg/

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:26 PM, tammaro "pamdirac"
palombo wrote:
> A makeup mirror? :D
>
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Michael Tansella 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wednesday 10 June 2009 11:57:51 Yorick Moko wrote:
>> > could you give a link to that video again please?
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuwhPXYxxI
>> at 18:37
>>
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread tammaro "pamdirac" palombo
A makeup mirror? :D

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Michael Tansella
wrote:

> On Wednesday 10 June 2009 11:57:51 Yorick Moko wrote:
> > could you give a link to that video again please?
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuwhPXYxxI
> at 18:37
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Michael Tansella
On Wednesday 10 June 2009 11:57:51 Yorick Moko wrote:
> could you give a link to that video again please?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFuwhPXYxxI
at 18:37

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Werner Almesberger
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
> * Open Hardware programable Annoy-a-tron 2.0[1] like. (1)
> 
> [1]http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/b278/

Sean actually likes pranks very much :-)

(Sadly, I never managed to goad anyone into trying the inverted
coffee cup prank on him, and when I finally got to Taipei again,
I had already forgotten about and Openmoko had tables with which
it wouldn't have worked.)

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread NeilBrown
On Wed, June 10, 2009 8:18 pm, David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
> Project B guessing game
>  -
> * Hair straightener with WLAN. (1)
> * Cheap wireless tablet. (1)
> * Open Hardware programable Annoy-a-tron 2.0[1] like. (1)
>
> [1]http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/b278/

In the same breath as introducing Project B, Sean mentioned his
surprise at finding out how keen the "embedded community" were to get
a toy to develop on.

So I think it is a a touchscreen/cpu/bluetooth device that can
be used as a user-interface to any blue-tooth enabled tool
(phone, gps, whatever) and the target market is embedded devlopers
who want a cheap and open platform to do development on.
So:

   * Bluetooth enabled touch screen

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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
A handheld beamer for your next presentation...


Am 10.06.2009 um 11:39 schrieb David Reyes Samblas Martinez:

> It has a screen
> it has a button (maybe a direction pad)
> it can be holded in one hand.
> ..
> I vote some kind of wireless low cost tablet


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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
Project B guessing game
 -
* Hair straightener with WLAN. (1)
* Cheap wireless tablet. (1)
* Open Hardware programable Annoy-a-tron 2.0[1] like. (1)

[1]http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/b278/

2009/6/10 David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
> 2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Reyes Samblas
>> Martinez wrote:
>>> 2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
>>> In fact, apart of the seconds Sean show it on San Francisco
>>> conference, there is any more info about project B?
>>> So let's start a game just for fun to if any one of us will be able to
>>> know what the hell is this devices:
>>> from the video we can state,
>>> It has a screen
>>> it has a button (maybe a direction pad)
>>> it can be holded in one hand.
>>> ..
>>
>>> I vote some kind of wireless low cost tablet
>>
>> A bit difficult to believe as OM let all software developers (well
>> what do we know.. at least people working with Freerunner..) go -> I
>> wouldn't expect much software in it. OTOH yes, it looks like a small
>> tablet or something. Someone suggested a hair straightener with wlan -
>> before we saw the video :).
> Ok then
> Projet B gessing game
> -
> *Hair straightener with WLAN (1)
> *Cheap wireless tablet (1)
>
>>
>> r
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Reyes Samblas
> Martinez wrote:
>> 2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
>> In fact, apart of the seconds Sean show it on San Francisco
>> conference, there is any more info about project B?
>> So let's start a game just for fun to if any one of us will be able to
>> know what the hell is this devices:
>> from the video we can state,
>> It has a screen
>> it has a button (maybe a direction pad)
>> it can be holded in one hand.
>> ..
>
>> I vote some kind of wireless low cost tablet
>
> A bit difficult to believe as OM let all software developers (well
> what do we know.. at least people working with Freerunner..) go -> I
> wouldn't expect much software in it. OTOH yes, it looks like a small
> tablet or something. Someone suggested a hair straightener with wlan -
> before we saw the video :).
Ok then
Projet B gessing game
-
*Hair straightener with WLAN (1)
*Cheap wireless tablet (1)

>
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Yorick Moko
could you give a link to that video again please?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:39 AM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinez wrote:
> 2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Christoph Pulster 
>> wrote:
>>> Let us know Plan B. Community will discuss it and this will improve the
>>> product and this process will create quality news by itself.
>>
>> Hmm.. I can't remember hearing from anywhere that Project B would have
>> anything to do with Linux or that it'd be 'open'?
> In fact, apart of the seconds Sean show it on San Francisco
> conference, there is any more info about project B?
> So let's start a game just for fun to if any one of us will be able to
> know what the hell is this devices:
> from the video we can state,
> It has a screen
> it has a button (maybe a direction pad)
> it can be holded in one hand.
> ..
> I vote some kind of wireless low cost tablet
>>
>> r
>>
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Re: Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 12:39 PM, David Reyes Samblas
Martinez wrote:
> 2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
> In fact, apart of the seconds Sean show it on San Francisco
> conference, there is any more info about project B?
> So let's start a game just for fun to if any one of us will be able to
> know what the hell is this devices:
> from the video we can state,
> It has a screen
> it has a button (maybe a direction pad)
> it can be holded in one hand.
> ..

> I vote some kind of wireless low cost tablet

A bit difficult to believe as OM let all software developers (well
what do we know.. at least people working with Freerunner..) go -> I
wouldn't expect much software in it. OTOH yes, it looks like a small
tablet or something. Someone suggested a hair straightener with wlan -
before we saw the video :).

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Project B guessing game was[ Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)]

2009-06-10 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/6/10 Risto H. Kurppa :
> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Christoph Pulster 
> wrote:
>> Let us know Plan B. Community will discuss it and this will improve the
>> product and this process will create quality news by itself.
>
> Hmm.. I can't remember hearing from anywhere that Project B would have
> anything to do with Linux or that it'd be 'open'?
In fact, apart of the seconds Sean show it on San Francisco
conference, there is any more info about project B?
So let's start a game just for fun to if any one of us will be able to
know what the hell is this devices:
from the video we can state,
It has a screen
it has a button (maybe a direction pad)
it can be holded in one hand.
..
I vote some kind of wireless low cost tablet
>
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Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)

2009-06-10 Thread Steve Mosher
  Hi,

   I have to quibble a bit here. Any PR firm, including Pat's, is at the 
mercy of the mouthpiece. That's me. Before they release the information 
they look me in the eye and ask me to vouch for the veracity.
Think of them as a messenger. You hand the postman a letter professing
your undying love for a woman.  he delivers the letter. Later, you break 
the woman's heart. Should she shoot the postman who was paid to deliver 
the message? But PR firms do more than simply deliver your message. They 
also help you correct false stories in the press.

WRT wikis as a tool for putting information into the world. I'm not
entirely convinced that a wiki can serve as best tool for every 
situation. This is something I used to teach in rhetoric class.
Every message has a speaker, a channel, an audience and a purpose.
One channel doesn't fit all. So if my purpose is to speak to the press
with the purpose of giving them information that they can re transmit
easily across many other channels, then a press release is a great tool.
We send a press release to a reporter ( press releases are for the press 
) that reporter uses another channel, the phone, to talk to me. He's got
the release in his hands, I've got it in mine. We do an interview, live.
he questions me. listens to my answers. Pushes hard on me. It's hard
to do that in today's version of the wiki, which is really a non real 
time, consensus version of the truth. the interview, well that's very 
often "thunderdome" two men enter, one man leaves. It's a "best man 
wins" version of the truth. When it comes down to it, I tend to be
a pragmatist. If a wiki proves to be the best tool for the job, use a 
wiki. If a blog gets it done, blogit. Does a tweet work to get the
thing done? then tweet. phone call? email? press release? these all
are various species of the thing we call communication. not to mention
winks, nods, coughs, and twirling your hair between your fingers.

WRT plan B or any other product at OM, Sean and the design team will
announce they decide the time is right. It's not for me to pre-empt that.


Christoph Pulster wrote:
> Hi Steve,
> 
> thanks for explaining the way PR with PatMeier works.
> It was a mistake by myself to approve some quotes in the realeases about  
> Pulster, so blame it on me.
> In general I still believe PatMeier & Co. style of public relations and  
> philosophy of Openmoko doenst match. PR is a paid service to put non- 
> objective informations into the world. This is the opposite of community  
> based and managed information (Wiki).
> 
> Now as Openmoko deceide to put the future of GTA02 in the hands of the  
> community, I suggest to open communication also in radical OPEN way.
> Let us know Plan B. Community will discuss it and this will improve the  
> product and this process will create quality news by itself.
> 
> Christoph
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Re: Pat Meier (=public relation of Openmoko)

2009-06-10 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Christoph Pulster wrote:
> Let us know Plan B. Community will discuss it and this will improve the
> product and this process will create quality news by itself.

Hmm.. I can't remember hearing from anywhere that Project B would have
anything to do with Linux or that it'd be 'open'?

r

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Re: Pat Meier

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Mosher
Christoph,

  I will politely ask you to retract your comments about Pat. Each and 
every press release issued by
Openmoko was written by me and issued with my approval and Sean's 
approval. Pat is in charge
of the mechanics of getting those releases distributed and covered by 
the press. As PR she would make editorial suggestions,
but in the end the words are approved by me and sean and in the case of 
quotes, the quotes
are approved by the person being quoted. If you consider the words to be 
BS, then you are
entitled to your opinion. I am responsible for each and every word.  I'm 
responsible for
generating the information, not Pat. Basically it works like this. I 
want to to do a press release.
I talk with Pat and we discuss whether the item is newsworthy in our 
estimation. "Steve ate breakfast"
may be a fine tweet, but it isn't news. Then if we agree it is 
newsworthy, I write the release.
Sean reviews it and when he and I come to agreement we go back to Pat 
and ask her to "put the release out"
Her name goes at the bottom of the release. Not because the words are 
hers, but because she is the Press
Contact. That means the press contacts her when they want to talk to me 
or sean.


Christoph Pulster wrote:
>>   I've copied pat meier Johnson our PR person on the thread. Like you
>>   we believe there is a great positive story here.
>> 
>
> IMO Pat Meier is the typical Public Relation crap and does not match to  
> the company philosophy of Openmoko Inc. at all.
> I just checking some announcements of the past of Pat Meier concerning  
> Openmoko and realize they have a lot of fantasy and free imagination to  
> create facts and words. I dont like these kind of bullshit information  
> generators.
>
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