Re: QtMoko images V9
Linus Gasser wrote: Is there a way to have a reliable alarm-clock? I just gained half an hour of sleep today because the alarm didn't ring ;) Not yet, but i will be working on this, but if someone could take a look what's wrong, that would be great. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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- Bad sound quality. I got complain until I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.ne w. With this, the speaker is still too low but at least the other person can hear me. This is probably impossible to solve out-of-the-box. If a am right, phones need different alsa setting I'm not an expert but the wiki says : Please use http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new for *all* Neo Freerunner. (2009-04-27 jOERG) - My provider (orange in France) use service request (#123#) to give me the remaining credit. Unfortunately qtmoko only display the first line of the answer (which btw doesn't contain any usefull information). Moreover it's not possible to respond to it. Can you please enable Modem AT commands logging and send me the line with the text that operator sent? (should be line containing +CUSD). It seem that the switch to dash killed the logging capacity of my phone :( I tried with the init file in the mail. (with the one you linked to fix restart, qt extended doesn't start at all) I will try to investigate today. But the UI responsible for the display is the line 97 of the file src/server/phone/telephony/cell/supplementaryservice/supplservice.cpp - Boot time is still too long (2'40 to first picture, 3'10 to PIN screen) Yes, known issue with great improvement potential. E.g. by replacing bash with dash i can get time 2:30 Thanks for the fix. (It's funny, I was sure it was already included in the image) -- Vincent Meurisse ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi Roland, looks great - Now I can write SMS, too - last time I tried (v3), it always crashed on me. Is there a way to have a reliable alarm-clock? I just gained half an hour of sleep today because the alarm didn't ring ;) Linus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Vincent Meurisse wrote: - Bad sound quality. I got complain until I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new. With this, the speaker is still too low but at least the other person can hear me. This is probably impossible to solve out-of-the-box. If a am right, phones need different alsa setting (at least the buzz-fixed alsa scenarios are different). E.g. for me the quality is good and the sound volume is ok too. We could write application that can test several scenarios and you could pick up the one, that fits you best. This is very simple to implement (someone volunteer? :) You can also try to play with qAlsaMixer. - about the first second of conversation is cut. This is very annoying. For incoming out outgoing call? For me outgoing is ok, for incoming it takes a second between the Answer button press and when the call is activated. I usually watch the screen until the call time starts counting and then start speaking. Something probably takes some time (maybe switching alsa scenario?). - When registering multiple numbers for a contact, some are not callable (like mobile and other). The phone show a list of numbers without them. Yup, another bug to be solved. - My provider (orange in France) use service request (#123#) to give me the remaining credit. Unfortunately qtmoko only display the first line of the answer (which btw doesn't contain any usefull information). Moreover it's not possible to respond to it. Can you please enable Modem AT commands logging and send me the line with the text that operator sent? (should be line containing +CUSD). - Phone doesn't re-register to GSM network (like after leaving airplane mode or after network error) Ok - Alarm are not working (I get them after reboot) Known issue and i'd like to solve this one very much, because i need alarms too. - Restart Qt Extended doesn't work (I get stuck in the console with the blinking cursor) This should be fixed now, see [1]. - Boot time is still too long (2'40 to first picture, 3'10 to PIN screen) Yes, known issue with great improvement potential. E.g. by replacing bash with dash i can get time 2:30 (booted ready to make call system). It can be done like: apt-get install dash dpkg-reconfigure dash and edit /etc/inid.d/qpe so that it reads: #!/bin/sh echo '1' /proc/sys/kernel/printk rm -rf /var/run/ppp mkdir /var/run/ppp mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env atd /var/spool/at qx_helper touch /tmp/restart-qtopia while [ -e /tmp/restart-qtopia ]; do echo 0 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on echo 1 /sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/power_on qpe 2 /dev/null done - QtExtended theme is not readable under the sun. A theme with more contrast would be apreciated I saw such theme somewhere. If it could be installed as package there we can add it to qtmoko package repository. - I find v9 more crashy than other version (5 crashes in 2 days). Maybe it's due to a more intense usage. It seems that problem is in truetype font memory usage and it should be fixed for next release. In meanwhile you can uncomment all tmpfs mounts in fstab (except the apt one). - A nice boot logo would be nicer than console messages for 2 minutes Agree here. A real bugtracker would be a good idea. The current one seems unloved (only 6 bugs, none of them ever receive an update). When reporting a bug, it's not possible to enter the image version (like v9). It would be also great if the qtmoko version where accessible from the information application on the phone. I agree here too, i will try to get in touch with Fabio who is (i believe) qtmoko.org admin. Regards Radek [1] http://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/commit/19da059b66daa69b29a1a0bf92246b2d31d41e9a ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V9
Excellent work Radek, this is definitely the best release so far, I love the speed ups too. I finally got around to trying my Buzz fixed FR in a real call, and the volume was so low I couldn't hear it. I used the http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/raw-attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new and stuck that into /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/gsmhandset.state, and it was much better. Still rather low but tolerable. I noticed that if I enabled speaker during the call, then there was no sound at all, so I guess the speaker alsa state needs working on? A major problem though is that whenever I run the web browser (and other programs) they get killed at random times, usually within the first few seconds. The browser seems to be killed off as I see this in dmesg... [ 2200.955000] select 2460 (webviewer), adj 15, size 7812, to kill [ 2200.955000] send sigkill to 2460 (webviewer), adj 15, size 7812 Any idea what is killing it off and why? So far I haven't been able to keep the web browser running long enough to visit a page. I am running in flash (not sdcard), and using the latest version V9. I think this is getting close enough to being stable I could use it as a phone, I just need bluetooth headsets to work :) Thanks Jim Radek Polak wrote: Hi all, i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from: -- Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Jim, if copied all scenarios from FSO (/usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/*) to QtMoko scenarios and now the speaker works. Radek, maybe you can put the FSO scenarios-states to your repository to get all audio working correctly? Regards, Ghislain Jim Morris wrote: I noticed that if I enabled speaker during the call, then there was no sound at all, so I guess the speaker alsa state needs working on? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-images-V9-tp3613993p3635947.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V9
On Wednesday 09 September 2009 22:26:44 Radek Polak wrote: i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. Thanks a lot for your work. As my old phone is now dead, I started using my freeruner as main phone. Before saying anything else, QtMoko is for now my favorite distro. But we never discuss about the good points. So here are the remaining issues (from must to least annoying): - Bad sound quality. I got complain until I switched to http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/attachment/ticket/2121/gsmhandset.state.new. With this, the speaker is still too low but at least the other person can hear me. - about the first second of conversation is cut. This is very annoying. - When registering multiple numbers for a contact, some are not callable (like mobile and other). The phone show a list of numbers without them. - My provider (orange in France) use service request (#123#) to give me the remaining credit. Unfortunately qtmoko only display the first line of the answer (which btw doesn't contain any usefull information). Moreover it's not possible to respond to it. - Phone doesn't re-register to GSM network (like after leaving airplane mode or after network error) - Alarm are not working (I get them after reboot) - Restart Qt Extended doesn't work (I get stuck in the console with the blinking cursor) - Boot time is still too long (2'40 to first picture, 3'10 to PIN screen) - QtExtended theme is not readable under the sun. A theme with more contrast would be apreciated - I find v9 more crashy than other version (5 crashes in 2 days). Maybe it's due to a more intense usage. - A nice boot logo would be nicer than console messages for 2 minutes A real bugtracker would be a good idea. The current one seems unloved (only 6 bugs, none of them ever receive an update). When reporting a bug, it's not possible to enter the image version (like v9). It would be also great if the qtmoko version where accessible from the information application on the phone. -- Vincent Meurisse ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V9
Jim Morris wrote: I noticed that if I enabled speaker during the call, then there was no sound at all, so I guess the speaker alsa state needs working on? Yes, the speaker state seems to be borked. I will replace it with something working for next release. A major problem though is that whenever I run the web browser (and other programs) they get killed at random times, usually within the first few seconds. The browser seems to be killed off as I see this in dmesg... [ 2200.955000] select 2460 (webviewer), adj 15, size 7812, to kill [ 2200.955000] send sigkill to 2460 (webviewer), adj 15, size 7812 Any idea what is killing it off and why? So far I haven't been able to keep the web browser running long enough to visit a page. It seems that there is not very much memory left and browser uses a lot of RAM. And for me swap does not work, but oom killer yes. So we will need way how to use less memory or how to make swap working or both. For now it can help if you edit /etc/fstab and comment all lines that mount tmpfs (execpt the one with apt). I am not expert in this are, so any help is welcome. I think this is getting close enough to being stable I could use it as a phone, I just need bluetooth headsets to work :) Yes, would be nice to have this working :) Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Is a pleasure to hear that you enjoed it :) We have a website (http://qtmoko.org) and an IRC channel on Freenode (#qtmoko). On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:16 AM, Omar Belkhodja omar.belkho...@gmail.com wrote: First time, I look to this distribution... Screenshots are really great ! I wanna really start to build some apps for this distribution. Any wiki on how to build it, and how to build application for this distribution ? Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Fabio A Locati Home: Segrate, Milan, Italy (GMT +1) Phone: +39-328-3799681 MSN/Jabber/E-Mail: fabioloc...@gmail.com PGP Key: 9EF6 3C79 F6DF 76CD 770A 43A1 DCCB 415C 9656 3334 Envolved in: KDE, OpenStreetMap, Ubuntu, Wikimedia ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Hi, On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:50 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Question: is it possible to upgrade from v8 somehow, or do we need to perform a complete reinstall of the v9 images? You can download the tar.gz, replace kernel, modules and whole /opt directory. That should be enough IIRC. In the end, I chose to install frsh. So I just did a new mkfs on my p2 partition, and took it from there. I realized I didn't have any data on it anyway. :-) -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsn ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Kahless wrote: The only thing that doesn't really work is Bluetooth. ATM it seems to survive suspend/resume and my Headset is identified and paired. But QtMoko doesn't use it while phoning. I can hear a small buzz (like phone without signal) but it doesn't work, even when i switch to bluetooth Headset via Options in the lower left. Are there any plans to fix that in the future (even when QtMoko v9 is the last one)? Hi Sascha, thanks for kind words :) As for bt - i am going to buy bluetooth headset so i will try to make this working. I cant promise when it will be done though. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Radek Polak wrote: Kahless wrote: The only thing that doesn't really work is Bluetooth. ATM it seems to survive suspend/resume and my Headset is identified and paired. But QtMoko doesn't use it while phoning. I can hear a small buzz (like phone without signal) but it doesn't work, even when i switch to bluetooth Headset via Options in the lower left. Are there any plans to fix that in the future (even when QtMoko v9 is the last one)? Hi Sascha, thanks for kind words :) As for bt - i am going to buy bluetooth headset so i will try to make this working. I cant promise when it will be done though. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Im having some problems with V9 gprs, if it is always on then display freezes some time after giving pin-number. I expect it hangs when gprs gets connection. SSH still responds but /etc/init.d/qpe stop|start does not restart qte... kernel and rootfs are downloaded from http://activationrecord.net/radekp/openmoko/qtmoko/download/ and I think im using qi... (i think i need to update that as well) Only things i've done after reflash, was inserting gprs userpwd and switching it to always on. Otherwise it is a great image, thank you for that :) -- husku -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkqqMLAACgkQYntoxOJkGJKMgwCeNQrCYvyTCPu5kwJrNsP8tAzE HC4AoICYB/nxTh/5V+XrGHEBgby1LuS7 =Jx0q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Radek Polak schrieb: Hi Sascha, thanks for kind words :) As for bt - i am going to buy bluetooth headset so i will try to make this working. I cant promise when it will be done though. Regards Radek Hi Radek, hell yeah, that sounds promising! Again, thanks a lot for your work don't let it die! :) Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Radek, Yesterday I found and repaired a little bug in the 'Web Browser': when entering a password-field the keyboard doesn't show, I've created al little patch in: This is the git diff: diff --git a/qtopiacore/qt/src/3rdparty/webkit/WebCore/html/HTMLInputElement.cpp b/qtopiacore/qt/src/3rdparty/webkit/WebCore/html/HTMLInputElement.cpp index dae0be5..671e0f6 100644 --- a/qtopiacore/qt/src/3rdparty/webkit/WebCore/html/HTMLInputElement.cpp +++ b/qtopiacore/qt/src/3rdparty/webkit/WebCore/html/HTMLInputElement.cpp @@ -243,7 +243,7 @@ void HTMLInputElement::aboutToUnload() bool HTMLInputElement::shouldUseInputMethod() const { -return m_type == TEXT || m_type == SEARCH || m_type == ISINDEX; +return m_type == TEXT || m_type == SEARCH || m_type == ISINDEX || m_type == PASSWORD; } void HTMLInputElement::dispatchFocusEvent() Can you apply the fix to your repository or is there a way I can apply myself? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/QtMoko-images-V9-tp3613993p3625971.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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ghislain wrote: Radek, Yesterday I found and repaired a little bug in the 'Web Browser Great, thanks! Can you apply the fix to your repository or is there a way I can apply myself? I have applied it on my repo. If you are going to contribute more, you can fork my repo on github and i can pull changes from you. But sending patches with mail is fine too. Btw can you send me your whole name, so that i can add it to credits? Thanks Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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First time, I look to this distribution... Screenshots are really great ! I wanna really start to build some apps for this distribution. Any wiki on how to build it, and how to build application for this distribution ? Thanks ! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko images V9
Dnia 2009-09-09, śro o godzinie 22:26 +0200, Radek Polak pisze: Hi all, i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as Great, thanks! One question about your version numbering. As it is not usual, is there any system, like odd numbers are unstable/testing version, and even are stable? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Radek Polak wrote: So enjoy, thanks to everyone who helped with this release and let me know how you like it. Cheers Radek Hi Radek as always, i love QtMoko! It's fast, stable and reliable, even GPRS works out of the box here. :) The only thing that doesn't really work is Bluetooth. ATM it seems to survive suspend/resume and my Headset is identified and paired. But QtMoko doesn't use it while phoning. I can hear a small buzz (like phone without signal) but it doesn't work, even when i switch to bluetooth Headset via Options in the lower left. Are there any plans to fix that in the future (even when QtMoko v9 is the last one)? Greetings Sascha ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtMoko images V9
Hi all, i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/ MD5 sums: 0d05806bbc47afc4179daae8ac19eadd qtmoko-debian-v9.tar.gz deac161940d784292880a6f3d6eb2ca2 qtmoko-debian-v9.jffs2 6e83a50345784d69e0600c15b27bd843 uImage-v9.bin Screenshots: http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/screenshots/ Changes from previous version: * Fixed no sound in incoming calls * Fixed wifi - now should work ok (many thanks to Paul Ferster) * New package repository [1] and package feed [2] (thanks to Ant) * Improved fonts - using now truetype fonts which can handle diacritics and look better. In terminal it's now possible to set fixed size font. * Fixes in QtMaze (thanks to Ant) * Improved look - using now icons instead of text * Improved speed for switching alsa scenarios * Added script for sharing GPRS connection with PC * Disabled dimming by default when on cable * Upgraded kernel to latest andy-tracking This should be best QtMoko image. We have all Freerunner hardware working (with some small glitches) and also as phone it should be very usable. Now we have growing number of packages in qtmoko-apps repository and also it is possible to endless packages from debian. But there seems to be still bug with sometimes lost SMS messages. It would be great if someone managed to find out how to reproduce this issue or send AT log. This can be either kernel bug (phone does not wake up and the operator gives up on delivering message?) or something in Qtopia (the message arrives but gets lost) or combination of these two. So enjoy, thanks to everyone who helped with this release and let me know how you like it. Cheers Radek [1] http://github.com/Sektor/qtmoko-apps/tree/master [2] http://dl.linuxphone.ru/openmoko/qtmoko/packages/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi all, i have just uploaded new QtMoko debian images. You can download as usually from: Thanks! Very quick! Question: is it possible to upgrade from v8 somehow, or do we need to perform a complete reinstall of the v9 images? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Question: is it possible to upgrade from v8 somehow, or do we need to perform a complete reinstall of the v9 images? You can download the tar.gz, replace kernel, modules and whole /opt directory. That should be enough IIRC. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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* Radek Polak wrote, Il 09/09/2009 22:26: So enjoy, thanks to everyone who helped with this release and let me know how you like it. Cheers Radek You Radek are incredible! Thanks a lot, really! And thanks to all contributors too. I'm downloading QtMokoV9, gotta test finally working WiFi connection :-) -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community