Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-09 Thread Helge Hafting
Robin Paulson wrote:
> 2009/1/9 Nicolas Laurance :
>> screenshot2
>>
> 
> you're not locked on to any satellites
> 
> the numbers at the bottom-left of the screen, (12/0) say the gps can
> see 12, and is locked on to 0 - it needs to lock on to 4 or 5 minimum
> to get a fix
> 
Actually, you get a fix even with 3 satellites - using the
approximate assumption that your elevation is zero or "same as last 
time". Accuracy is not good, unless the assumption holds.

Helge Hafting

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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Nicolas Laurance

> it looks like you've previously got a fix, then turned off the gps and
> restarted it. gpsd will often report phantom locations (usually the
> last place you were at before turning off) in this situation - even,
> as in this case, a decent hdop value (2.6)
> 
> you need to make sure gps is on and wait until it gets a fix

This situation is permanent, I never get good data on this screen.
Even after a hard reboot and waiting for 25 + minutes in open sky ( no 
building, no tree, no cloud)

The position on the map is correct and stays ok even if I move.

I guess, it looks like a bug in Tango



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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Jim Morris
Yes I get the same problem from the trip menu on Tangogps only.

I get the correct lat/long from my other GPS device and also from agpsui on the 
freerunner.

Looks like it is a bug in TangoGPS.

Nicolas Laurance wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> I've tried several distrib (FSO, SHR) and I have an issue with the GPS
> 
> maybe more specifically TangoGPS, don't know
> 
> the symptom is :
> 
> After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map
> but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 
> degree west
> 
> 
> Does anyone have the same issue ?
> any idea on how to fix ?
> 



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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/9 Nicolas Laurance :
> screenshot2
>

you're not locked on to any satellites

the numbers at the bottom-left of the screen, (12/0) say the gps can
see 12, and is locked on to 0 - it needs to lock on to 4 or 5 minimum
to get a fix

it looks like you've previously got a fix, then turned off the gps and
restarted it. gpsd will often report phantom locations (usually the
last place you were at before turning off) in this situation - even,
as in this case, a decent hdop value (2.6)

you need to make sure gps is on and wait until it gets a fix

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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
I can also, if it's useful, give a GPS track showing this issue; you can 
see it on an OpenStreetMap[1] map, here[2]. It has bee already loaded in 
OSM's database, so you only have to download the osm datas and the gpx 
datas for the area.

LAT MIN: 41.06546877365579
LAT MAX: 41.07294855015945
LON MIN: 16.914316880834026X
LON MAX: 16.928509008753377

[1] www.openstreetmap.org
[2]http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=41.06992&lon=16.92266&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF

Nicolas Laurance wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> I've tried several distrib (FSO, SHR) and I have an issue with the GPS
> 
> maybe more specifically TangoGPS, don't know
> 
> the symptom is :
> 
> After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map
> but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 
> degree west
> 
> 
> Does anyone have the same issue ?
> any idea on how to fix ?
> 
> many thanks,
> 
> and, oh, happy new year
> 
> Nicolas
> 
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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Francesco de Virgilio
I can confirm this, but only until GPS fixes the 4th satellite. After 
that, in more or less 5 or 6 seconds, it gives the correct position.

Nicolas Laurance wrote:
> hi all,
> 
> I've tried several distrib (FSO, SHR) and I have an issue with the GPS
> 
> maybe more specifically TangoGPS, don't know
> 
> the symptom is :
> 
> After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map
> but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1 
> degree west
> 
> 
> Does anyone have the same issue ?
> any idea on how to fix ?
> 
> many thanks,
> 
> and, oh, happy new year
> 
> Nicolas
> 
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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Helge Hafting
So, correct position on the map, but wrong numbers.

Maybe tangogps has an error converting its numerical variables
to strings for the screen. Try notifying the developer(s).

Also try reading the gps with some other software.

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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Nicolas Laurance

screenshot1
sorry
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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Nicolas Laurance

screenshot2
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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Nicolas Laurance



sorry if i'm being missing the point and being pedantic, but i'm sure
latitude measures angle north/south of the equator.



you're right, a typo from me, mea culpa

the latitude N/S is correct
the longitude is biased W by ± 1°, correct that's more than 100 km

I confirm the position on the map (OSM or google) is OK

only the display in the track tab is completely wrong

screenshot1 shows the map, the position is ok
screenshot2 shows the track tab, the longitude is bad

it should be something close to W 002° 22.764

http://maps.google.fr/?ie=UTF8&ll=47.808673,-2.379398&spn=0.067214,0.147972&z=13

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RE: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
2009/1/8 Nicolas Laurance :
> After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the 
map
> but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, 
more than 1
> degree west

sorry if i'm being missing the point and being pedantic, but 
i'm sure
latitude measures angle north/south of the equator.

longitude measures the angle east/west of the greenwich meridian

are you at a point where the two have similar values, and 
getting them
the wrong way round?

alternatively, how precise is the lat/lon reading? tangogps 
provides
an hdop value - realistically, this should be as low as 
possible.
maybe you can't get a good fix, because of trees/buildings/old 
kernel
with microsd interference?

 

One degree in latitude means 111 kilometers.
This thread is yearning for a screenshot!

Lucas

 

 





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Re: GPS wrong longitude

2009-01-08 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/1/8 Nicolas Laurance :
> After the fix, Tango shows me on the correct position on the map
> but in the Trip tab the latitude data is completely wrong, more than 1
> degree west

sorry if i'm being missing the point and being pedantic, but i'm sure
latitude measures angle north/south of the equator.

longitude measures the angle east/west of the greenwich meridian

are you at a point where the two have similar values, and getting them
the wrong way round?

alternatively, how precise is the lat/lon reading? tangogps provides
an hdop value - realistically, this should be as low as possible.
maybe you can't get a good fix, because of trees/buildings/old kernel
with microsd interference?

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