Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > > > > > > > > <1255620003.18333.51.ca...@opal> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > =0A= > _=0A= > Je hele online leven op =E9=E9n stek met Windows Live=0A= > http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx= If Windows Live Mail/Hotmail sends one heavily corrupted and annoying to read email, does that mean we should ban all @hotmail users? Or should we wait until it's a pattern? If we asked hotmail users not to use Rich Text, would they do so? The list is called community@lists.openmoko.org . You'd have a hard time successfully telling every potential sender to use the right list before they post anyway. Or would we all have to change to community-freerunner-...@lists.openmoko.org and community-wikirea...@lists.openmoko.org in preparation for a problem that doesn't yet require a solution? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
<1255620003.18333.51.ca...@opal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 > How about first waiting to see the specs & hear how hackable it is etc > to guesstimate how much community will there be around it and use this > to guess if it makes sense to start a new list? You mean=2C let's wait until it becomes a problem and than we'll think abou= t how to control the situation and pray to God some FR people will still be= on the list after the dust has settled? You personally might think it is not a problem while others don't want to b= e bothered with it and already see it as a problem.=20 I still go for the pragmatic approach: two completely separate gizmos =3D t= wo different user groups =3D two different lists You can always subscribe to multiple lists if you want. =0A= _=0A= Je hele online leven op =E9=E9n stek met Windows Live=0A= http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx= ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
Sure, no point in rushing things. :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: >> But however, it's Openmoko Inc who makes the decisions. > > I disagree, it's our choice. These days this mailing list is now bein > operated by the community for the community. We chose what is on topic > and what not. As for the case of the wikireader, why not make a poll and > let all decide whether it's welcome to discuss here or not? How about first waiting to see the specs & hear how hackable it is etc to guesstimate how much community will there be around it and use this to guess if it makes sense to start a new list? r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
Am Donnerstag, den 15.10.2009, 16:01 +0300 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Niels Heyvaert > wrote: > > Yes it's a openmoko community list so both products can be discussed. Stric= > > tly speaking you're 100% correct. However=2C it would make a lot more sense= > > to have separate lists for the FR and the WikiReader. > > =20 > > - Not everybody interested in the FR is also interested in the Wikireader a= > > nd vice versa. > > - Given the traffic we already have on the list=2C adding another topic cou= > > ld render the list useless. > > I do agree that not everyone are interested in both products, but > given the traffic we have, now that om2009 is not existing & > discussed, SHR is discussed on other mailing lists so it's mostly > qt/QT/Qt/similar discussion, I think there's still room for wikireader > threads here :) (to me it looks like that the # of mails on -community > list has went down a lot). > > But however, it's Openmoko Inc who makes the decisions. I disagree, it's our choice. These days this mailing list is now bein operated by the community for the community. We chose what is on topic and what not. As for the case of the wikireader, why not make a poll and let all decide whether it's welcome to discuss here or not? :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 > > I do agree that not everyone are interested in both products=2C but > given the traffic we have=2C now that om2009 is not existing & > discussed=2C SHR is discussed on other mailing lists so it's mostly > qt/QT/Qt/similar discussion=2C=20 =20 Perhaps the QtMoko guys want to start their dedicated mailing just like the= other are doing? =20 > But however=2C it's Openmoko Inc who makes the decisions. True. =20 They could make this more elegant=2C though. Or I can create a SPAM rule :-= ) =0A= _=0A= Voeg vrienden toe van LinkedIn & Facebook aan je Windows Live=0A= http://profile.live.com/connect= ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > Yes it's a openmoko community list so both products can be discussed. Stric= > tly speaking you're 100% correct. However=2C it would make a lot more sense= > to have separate lists for the FR and the WikiReader. > =20 > - Not everybody interested in the FR is also interested in the Wikireader a= > nd vice versa. > - Given the traffic we already have on the list=2C adding another topic cou= > ld render the list useless. I do agree that not everyone are interested in both products, but given the traffic we have, now that om2009 is not existing & discussed, SHR is discussed on other mailing lists so it's mostly qt/QT/Qt/similar discussion, I think there's still room for wikireader threads here :) (to me it looks like that the # of mails on -community list has went down a lot). But however, it's Openmoko Inc who makes the decisions. r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
> My suggestion would be to set up a separate list (either for FR or Wikiread= > er or both). This would help the community and the user adoption of both de= > vices. I agree but maybe we should wait until the problem arises in practice ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 > > Did you notice that if we are strict=2C the mailing list has exactly as > much to do with Wikireader as with Freerunner.. > community@lists.openmoko.org > > -> to me it sound's like the mailing list is for community discussion > of Openmoko procudts. I think it includes Wikireader. > Yes it's a openmoko community list so both products can be discussed. Stric= tly speaking you're 100% correct. However=2C it would make a lot more sense= to have separate lists for the FR and the WikiReader. =20 - Not everybody interested in the FR is also interested in the Wikireader a= nd vice versa. - Given the traffic we already have on the list=2C adding another topic cou= ld render the list useless. =20 My suggestion would be to set up a separate list (either for FR or Wikiread= er or both). This would help the community and the user adoption of both de= vices. =20 Niels.=0A= _=0A= Je hele online leven op =E9=E9n stek met Windows Live=0A= http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/default.aspx= ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 02:10:20PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa escribió: > Did you notice that if we are strict, the mailing list has exactly as > much to do with Wikireader as with Freerunner.. > community@lists.openmoko.org No, you are wrong. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page says: Openmoko is a project dedicated to delivering mobile phones with an open source software stack. Openmoko is currently selling the Neo FreeRunner phone to advanced users and will start selling it to the general public as soon as the software is more developed The WikiReader is no mobile phone. Btw: the FR would allow to install Wikipedia on it. This would have todo with our mailimng list. matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
2009/10/15 Risto H. Kurppa : > On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 06:33:22AM -0400, Ken Young escribió: >> >>> It will be entertaining if the folks who purchase WikiReaders start >>> hanging out on the Openmoko IRC channel. One set of participants will >>> be blathering on about wpa_supplicant files, and the other will be >>> asking how to insert AAA batteries. >>> >>> Ken Young > > Did you notice that if we are strict, the mailing list has exactly as > much to do with Wikireader as with Freerunner.. > community@lists.openmoko.org > > -> to me it sound's like the mailing list is for community discussion > of Openmoko procudts. I think it includes Wikireader. +1 David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable & embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! > > > r > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Off Topic (was: Re: WikiReader)
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día Thursday, October 15, 2009 a las 06:33:22AM -0400, Ken Young escribió: > >> It will be entertaining if the folks who purchase WikiReaders start >> hanging out on the Openmoko IRC channel. One set of participants will >> be blathering on about wpa_supplicant files, and the other will be >> asking how to insert AAA batteries. >> >> Ken Young Did you notice that if we are strict, the mailing list has exactly as much to do with Wikireader as with Freerunner.. community@lists.openmoko.org -> to me it sound's like the mailing list is for community discussion of Openmoko procudts. I think it includes Wikireader. r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
