Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-12 Thread Paul Fertser
openm...@humilis.net writes:
> Niels Heyvaert wrote (ao):
>> > Is the Freerunner vibrating, before it boots from nand? This is the
>> > case if a kernel is unbootable or skipped.
>> 
>> Yes it does vibrate once before actually booting from NAND. I always
>> assumed this was a part of the hardware "system check" at power up.
>
> You might want to read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi

The best advice so far! :D Thanks :)

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Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-12 Thread openmoko
Hi Niels,

Niels Heyvaert wrote (ao):
> > From: fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com
> >
> > Is the Freerunner vibrating, before it boots from nand? This is the
> > case if a kernel is unbootable or skipped.
> 
> Yes it does vibrate once before actually booting from NAND. I always
> assumed this was a part of the hardware "system check" at power up.

You might want to read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi

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RE: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread Niels Heyvaert


> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:16:49 +0200
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> From: openm...@ginguppin.de
> Subject: Re: Qi installed properly?
>
>> I've created the partition using using fdisk (primary partition and
>> flagged as bootable) and mkfs.ext2.
>
> meaning the only partition on that sd card?

Yes, only 1 partition covering the entire SD Card.

>
>> After inserting the card in my FR, he still boots from NAND instead of
>> the SD card. Understanding the Qi bootsequence the FR is first trying to
>> boot from the SD card. But for some reason it is not or it is failing
>> and skips to the NAND part.
>
> there are some feedbacks (flashing led and vibration iirc), signifying the
> result of the checked partition (boot or skip).
> when booted from flash, can you access the sd card? maybe it is not
> detected properly?

Will try this tomorrow and keep you informed.

>> Could this be a permission issue on the SD card (ie not able to mount or
>> read files)?
>
> no idea. but i don't think so.
> btw: with
> sudo su -
> you can get a root shell in ubuntu which removes the need to prepend
> everything with sudo and would have saved you from chmod.
>
> - i am not quite sure how much information qi would print at all, but
> maybe you should increase the loglevel?
> - if available you should compare the md5sum of the archive or download it
> again with another tool (wget) and compare both.
> - you could in /boot remove the link
> uImage-GTA02.bin
> and instead _copy_
> uImage-2.6.29-rc3
> (yes, i know, symlinks are supported according to the wiki).

Will try this tomorrow and keep you informed.

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RE: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread Niels Heyvaert


> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 17:14:32 +0200
> From: fabian.schoel...@googlemail.com
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> Subject: Re: Qi installed properly?
>
> Is the Freerunner vibrating, before it boots from nand? This is the
> case if a kernel is unbootable or skipped.

Yes it does vibrate once before actually booting from NAND. I always assumed 
this was a part of the hardware "system check" at power up.

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Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread openmoko
arne anka wrote (ao):
> - i am not quite sure how much information qi would print at all, but
> maybe you should increase the loglevel?

Qi gets verbose if you press and hold the powerbutton a few seconds to
boot.

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Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
> I've created the partition using using fdisk (primary partition and  
> flagged as bootable) and mkfs.ext2.

meaning the only partition on that sd card?

> After inserting the card in my FR, he still boots from NAND instead of  
> the SD card. Understanding the Qi bootsequence the FR is first trying to  
> boot from the SD card. But for some reason it is not or it is failing  
> and skips to the NAND part.

there are some feedbacks (flashing led and vibration iirc), signifying the  
result of the checked partition (boot or skip).
when booted from flash, can you access the sd card? maybe it is not  
detected properly?

> Could this be a permission issue on the SD card (ie not able to mount or  
> read files)?

no idea. but i don't think so.
btw: with
sudo su -
you can get a root shell in ubuntu which removes the need to prepend  
everything with sudo and would have saved you from chmod.

- i am not quite sure how much information qi would print at all, but  
maybe you should increase the loglevel?
- if available you should compare the md5sum of the archive or download it  
again with another tool (wget) and compare both.
- you could in /boot remove the link
uImage-GTA02.bin
and instead _copy_
uImage-2.6.29-rc3
(yes, i know, symlinks are supported according to the wiki).

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Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread Fabian Schölzel
Is the Freerunner vibrating, before it boots from nand? This is the
case if a kernel is unbootable or skipped.

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RE: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread Niels Heyvaert


>
>> So this means when I boot by just pressing the power button I should be
>> booting with Qi. But whenever pressing the AUX button and boot from the
>> NOR menu I'm booting with u-boot... Is that correct?
>
> basically yes (iirc you can frinst press aux when booting qi to skip a
> partition).
> nor is your fallback, in case you corrupt nand beyond booting.

OK since we've now established this, I come to my next point:

I've created one large ext2 partition and untarred 
http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.tar.gz 
to it.

I've created the partition using using fdisk (primary partition and flagged as 
bootable) and mkfs.ext2.

After inserting the card in my FR, he still boots from NAND instead of the SD 
card. Understanding the Qi bootsequence the FR is first trying to boot from the 
SD card. But for some reason it is not or it is failing and skips to the NAND 
part.

Could this be a permission issue on the SD card (ie not able to mount or read 
files)?

I had to use sudo all the time when using fdisk or mkfs, including when 
untarring. To try to avoid permission issues I've done chmod -R 777 * on the SD 
card root before inserting into the FR. But this does not change the behaviour.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Niels.
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Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
> So this means when I boot by just pressing the power button I should be  
> booting with Qi. But whenever pressing the AUX button and boot from the  
> NOR menu I'm booting with u-boot... Is that correct?

basically yes (iirc you can frinst press aux when booting qi to skip a  
partition).
nor is your fallback, in case you corrupt nand beyond booting.



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RE: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread Niels Heyvaert

OK, fair enough.

So this means when I boot by just pressing the power button I should be booting 
with Qi. But whenever pressing the AUX button and boot from the NOR menu I'm 
booting with u-boot... Is that correct?

Thanks,

Niels.

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> Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 16:14:00 +0200
> To: community@lists.openmoko.org
> From: openm...@ginguppin.de
> Subject: Re: Qi installed properly?
>
>> Holding the AUX button and powering up the FR, the NOR boot menu tells
>> me I'm using
>> U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May 9 2008 - 10:28:48)
>> Is this correct? Shouldn't this say it's Qi?
>
> no.
> qi should be in nand now -- you can't flash nor with dfu-util.
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Re: Qi installed properly?

2009-08-11 Thread arne anka
> Holding the AUX button and powering up the FR, the NOR boot menu tells  
> me I'm using
> U-Boot 1.3.2-moko12 (May 9 2008 - 10:28:48)
> Is this correct? Shouldn't this say it's Qi?

no.
qi should be in nand now -- you can't flash nor with dfu-util.

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