RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Very Nice, Long ago worked on a 90 million dollar flight sim with 20 men in the loop and lots of AI. If you ever played falcon 4.0 then you played against my aircraft AI. But 10K players is insane. Sounds very cool. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:38 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:48 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? Wonderful! My dissertation's on the scalability of massively multiplayer video games. I'm taking the Torque (www.garagegames.com) engine and making it scale to as many simulated users as I can handle. I can get access to the VT Supercomputer, so that should be at least 10k simulated users. That number really depends on how well I can tweak out the simulator (a full running copy of the game, with rendering turned off and an AI controlling the player). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
You're welcome matt. When the product hits the floor in Fremont California I will drive to the wharehouse. I will review the incoming QA. And then I will announce to you guys, open the shop and take orders. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:16 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Thank you for not opening the shop before there is something to sell. This is getting way too common of practice at various electronics websites. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
And then we will buy each other a tall cold beer, and brace for the flood steve wrote: You're welcome matt. When the product hits the floor in Fremont California I will drive to the wharehouse. I will review the incoming QA. And then I will announce to you guys, open the shop and take orders. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 5:16 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Thank you for not opening the shop before there is something to sell. This is getting way too common of practice at various electronics websites. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Thank you for not opening the shop before there is something to sell. This is getting way too common of practice at various electronics websites. Matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 9:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
So how long do I have to wait to buy it after MP has started? Is it days? weeks? steve skrev: I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Hmm.. 2% failure? That's a bit high, no? Does the pcb have some issues? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:48 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
These people are *really* horney on a free phone... ;-) Just the result of my watching this list. :) I can wait here long thats not the problem. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
On 5/5/08, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm.. 2% failure? That's a bit high, no? Does the pcb have some issues? I think 2% is very low. Remember it is a MP. -- Please don't send me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Join the FSF as an Associate Member at: URL:http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=5774 Free your mind - Open(moko) your phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Its not days. Ill get more details and update in a couple days _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:59 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? So how long do I have to wait to buy it after MP has started? Is it days? weeks? steve skrev: I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Thats was great to hear :-D steve skrev: Its not days. I'll get more details and update in a couple days *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Alexander Frøyseth *Sent:* Monday, May 05, 2008 3:59 AM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? So how long do I have to wait to buy it after MP has started? Is it days? weeks? steve skrev: I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Matthew, Let me translate it. I wrote The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item LETS SAY. DVT verifies the design. That's been done. PVT Verifies the Production. That's been done. The PreMP will give us a number on the yield we can expect. So, a PCB problem would be caught in DVT. A Production problem is caught in PVT. The PreMP gives us a good final estimate at the production yield. Yeild loss can come from a variety of things that are not design related, but rather production related, like cold solder joint for example, or a bad batch of cpu, etc etc. These numbers are typically very very small. Now with something like a CPU or GPU when you first go into production your yield losess can be double digit. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crane, Matthew Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 10:17 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Hmm.. 2% failure? That's a bit high, no? Does the pcb have some issues? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:48 AM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Your welcome, Now I need to thank everybody for their patience and pass along an ancient piece of wisdom that I just made up. If you keep pulling the carrot out of the ground to see if it has grown, youll starve the rabbit. So. Let the carrot grow for another week and Ill do another Monday update. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 7:59 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Thats was great to hear :-D steve skrev: Its not days. Ill get more details and update in a couple days _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alexander Frøyseth Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:59 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? So how long do I have to wait to buy it after MP has started? Is it days? weeks? steve skrev: I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community _ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 11:48 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to clarify that now. Yeild is good there will not be another cycle. Test throughput, how long it takes to test the phone is being improved. One production starts we will just build continuously, The build process is very fast. The test on the back end, lets say to catch the 2% of failure is the gating item, but that can be parallelized somewhat, Then you have to figure the shipping. do I ship a lot per week, build two weeks and ship, etc. What is your dissertation on? Wonderful! My dissertation's on the scalability of massively multiplayer video games. I'm taking the Torque (www.garagegames.com) engine and making it scale to as many simulated users as I can handle. I can get access to the VT Supercomputer, so that should be at least 10k simulated users. That number really depends on how well I can tweak out the simulator (a full running copy of the game, with rendering turned off and an AI controlling the player). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lally Singh Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 7:57 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Steve, Thank you for the update. Much looking forward to purchasing this. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 4 May 2008 19:44:55 To:'List for Openmoko community discussion' community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: When will you update the Production Status, steve?
Just to clarify, what kind of time range would be needed? A week (4 weeks?) for production, plus another week (4 weeks) for testing? If testing shows problems, possibly another 6 weeks for another cycle? I don't want some sort of indirect promise on the delivery date -- I know it's too fuzzy. Just some help interpreting the meaning of the update. Personally I'm already committed and don't mind having some more time of productivity on my dissertation before the sudden halt that will arrive when the phone arrives :-D On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 10:44 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Minor correction, After we complete the test on the Pre MP, if we hit the Yeild numbers required, we start MP on the 9th at the earliest!. So, I'd put the window at May 9 to may 16th. Just to be accurate. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:39 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: When will you update the Production Status, steve? The last Pre MP is done and mass production is slated to start on may 9. Phones will start rolling off the lines, they will go through test, They will be shipped to distribution. When the Phones hit the dock and are ready to ship, I'll do a press release and announce to the list and the store will open. So you have 3 steps: build phone. test phone. ship phone. Then we take orders. I was very adamament about having phones in the disty ready to ship before I opened the web shop. Also, I need to update everybody on software. Sorry for the short response, but those are the facts as I have them -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sebastian Reichel Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2008 6:08 PM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: When will you update the Production Status, steve? Am Freitag, den 02.05.2008, 14:25 -0700 schrieb steve: Thread: RE: When begin sales the freerunner? I will update the production status over the weekend! Hi, the weekend is almost gone (actually it is already here in Germany, where it's 3:00 now), so where are the updates? :D greetings from Europe, Sebastian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
