Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
Am Mo 26. Mai 2008 schrieb Steffen Winkler: stupid question: but for what stands ASU? Abgas Sonder Untersuchung - hey you're no German guy?! ;-) maybe we should find a better name - yea it's hard with all these Spanish and German ambiguities. Let's wait and see what's next... LOL. Siemens spends million$ for just finding names. Sony spent even much more, for a name sounding good all over the world. /j signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
hi, it was said some days ago in the mailing list, that ASU is not the software which is shipped with the phone. But the first Freerunners, which are shipped are still not for the average user - they are for developers, which are able to update their phones. Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 12:35 -0700 schrieb Ron K. Jeffries: I am NOT asking if mass production has started. I am asking if OpenMoko has frozen a release to load into the microSD cards. It seems to me that the unit can come off the line, and that one of the final steps before packing would be to load the software. Is ASU the* ship[ping s/w load? yes I know people can and will download new s/w. but you'd hope that the Freerunner as shipped would not require an immediate s/w reload. Or maybe I'm being too old skool ??? -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
From mails to this list, AFAIK the answer is no. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 9:35 PM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am NOT asking if mass production has started. I am asking if OpenMoko has frozen a release to load into the microSD cards. It seems to me that the unit can come off the line, and that one of the final steps before packing would be to load the software. Is ASU the* ship[ping s/w load? yes I know people can and will download new s/w. but you'd hope that the Freerunner as shipped would not require an immediate s/w reload. Or maybe I'm being too old skool ??? -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am NOT asking if mass production has started. I am asking if OpenMoko has frozen a release to load into the microSD cards. It seems to me that the unit can come off the line, and that one of the final steps before packing would be to load the software. Firstly, yes, the software has been chosen. It's one of the older versions of the 2007.2 stack, the one you're used to if you have a 1973 or if you've toyed with Qemu in the past year. This will get you basic phone calls, SMS, a limited media player and so on. Secondly, and while this is nit-picky, the software isn't on the microSD card (though you CAN boot software installed on the SD card) its in NAND Flash. The reason I mention this is because both the Freerunner and the 1973 include a microSD card of 512MB, a size most people would find to small for everyday use once you start using it as a digital music player, a storage device for pictures et cetera. You can install a microSD of your own into it without having to do any software copying before you boot it the first time. :) Is ASU the* ship[ping s/w load? yes I know people can and will download new s/w. but you'd hope that the Freerunner as shipped would not require an immediate s/w reload. The software that ships to developers will not be the software that mainstream users will have installed. For a mainstream device, making the user install the software is dumb. That said, between the developer release and mainstream release the software (ASU) will be developed and improved upon so rapidly that it's possible that by the time the device is actually in your hand that the ASU would have also become usable enough to move to and poke at and report bugs on. Or maybe I'm being too old skool ??? -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
Am Montag, den 26.05.2008, 00:26 +0200 schrieb Detructor: You don't have to be a developer to update a Freerunner...the phone is for advanced end users (advanced - advanced knowledge of IT) I did not say (or at least I did'nt want to) that developers are the only ones who are able to update a Freerunner, but that the first persons who buy the phone are developers and that these are 100% able to do so :) So I guess the Software which is shipped with the Freerunner will change when the ASU becomes stable. In short: Early Freerunners are for more experienced users (for example developers :)) and later ones are for the ones with less less knowledge of IT. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
The stndard openmoko software has been frozen for RTM. a while back. Basically we decided to focus on key functionality ( dialer, SMS, contacts) get that key functionality to a gold master status. do the RTM and then move on to the new software. So, the phones that come out first will ship with the Openmoko software you have all seen. GTK based. The GOAL of the software that ships with the phone is to give people basic functioning phone capability. So, for example, my kid has been using his Freerunner since he got it as his regular phone. He could not do that with the GTA01 because of various quirks power, 850, etc etc. GOING FORWARD, our internal resources will be focused on a collection of software that leverages the work of Qtopia while developing a new suite of applications that haven't been seen on phones before. ASU the april release will not ship with the first phones. It is PRE Alpha at best. At some point The ASU sample people have been looking at will mature enough and be RTM _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron K. Jeffries Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 12:35 PM To: OpenMoko Subject: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships? I am NOT asking if mass production has started. I am asking if OpenMoko has frozen a release to load into the microSD cards. It seems to me that the unit can come off the line, and that one of the final steps before packing would be to load the software. Is ASU the* ship[ping s/w load? yes I know people can and will download new s/w. but you'd hope that the Freerunner as shipped would not require an immediate s/w reload. Or maybe I'm being too old skool ??? -- Ron K. Jeffries http://blog.eronj.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: software load for first mfg run of Freerunner? Is ASU what ships?
steve writes: The stndard openmoko software has been frozen for RTM. a while back. Which snapshot is that? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
