Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
On Sunday 03 June 2007 19:47, kenneth marken wrote: 3dacceleration? That means 3D desktop can be done now? Or what should we think of that? My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our analogical sense of space. I hope the chip will enable ZUIs, together with the accelerometers, not just eye-candy ! Anyway, these are great news !!! Cheers Florent ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our Most of the time blitting = 2D :) But seriously, even window zooming isn't real 3D, and I'm not sure that you want an extra chip there just for aqua/beryl-like eyecandy. Of course, if you already have that chip there for other reasons, like image processing, H264, hardware MP3/AAC and blitting) it wont hurt to add some extra coolness :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
On Monday 04 June 2007 12:48, Frank Coenen wrote: H264 will probably not work. If you look at the website: http://www.smediatech.com/product3370.htm The chip used by the GTA_02 will probably be the 3362-version. That supports VGA displays, but does not support H264. At least it lists MPEG4, so not all is lost :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our analogical sense of space. I hope the chip will enable ZUIs, together with the accelerometers, not just eye-candy ! You bet! After we feel comfortable enough with the software enabling the GTA01 to work as a concept/prototyping/development device, this is where I'd like to focus on (if my I'm allowed to, that is ;) -- - Michael Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the worlds' first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
I imagine some creative programmer could offload some GPS calculations into 3D space... just an idea if the GPU is very efficient. ~Bradley Attila Csipa wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 11:03, Florent THIERY wrote: My guess is that the primary application of that chip will be audio/video reproduction, and perhaps some blitting improvements, the 3D part is just bonus/eyecandy material. I do not agree with you: the neo currently struggles with 2D drawing; a real (understand: usable) zooming user interface has to achieve fluid un/zooming, so that the zooming metaphor applies to our Most of the time blitting = 2D :) But seriously, even window zooming isn't real 3D, and I'm not sure that you want an extra chip there just for aqua/beryl-like eyecandy. Of course, if you already have that chip there for other reasons, like image processing, H264, hardware MP3/AAC and blitting) it wont hurt to add some extra coolness :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to. Does anyone have any information on that? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
Does this mean the Neo 1973 has this hardware? That would just be fantastic :) When will Phase 2 be ready? 3d desktop would be really cool too, but I think the desktop at the moment is best for such a small screen.. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: Neo1973 Update!]
No... Look at the rest ;-) That would also mean that GTA02 doesn't have a gsm-chip :-p The GTA02 part simply says what it has extra to the GTAb_v4 On 6/3/07, Richard Boehme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, does that list mean that the GTA-02 will lose the GPS and the bluetooth? Also, it would be nice to know when GTA-02 has been pushed back to. Does anyone have any information on that? Thanks. Richard ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
