Re: [shr] SHR image released
El Xoves, 13 de Novembro de 2008, Chris Samuel escribió: I'm sure I've received calls and SMS's with my phone suspended with both Qtopia (4.3.3 snapshot) and QT Extended (4.4.2). For me it's much worst qtopia 4.3.3 lost every call I received with phone suspended. When I woke it up, I received a lost call sms from my operator. qtextended 4.4.2 is funnier. I don't receive the calls, but when I wake the phone up, it starts to ring, no matter if the call were made 10 minutes before. Then I also receive a lost call sms. Worst part is that when you call me, you can hear call tone, not busy tone nor out of coberture I suppose it's a matter of luck. What is true is thar every try I made with SHR preview, simply worked. Suspend/resume is working also. For me, SHR is the nearest I got to have a daily phone freerunner. -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer. Tried the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not right for the FR) downside after playing with it for two hours: PIN dialog never came up so cant register Logs on our trac should help us to see if this is truly an issue of SHR or frameworkd. no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged We never had, ever, this problem. No user has complained about that. Could you be more specific? no wifi Image is shipped with mofi. Everybody who used it on our team and users managed to connect to a WPA (it's only WPA) network. Regarding your previous problem, mofi ships with a connect.sh script (which we put in /etc/mofi) which does a ifconfig usb0 down. If you try USB after wifi, as mofi disable usb, it will surely fail. Could you please try again, USB before wifi ? trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot Again: could you be more specific? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer. Tried the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not right for the FR) downside after playing with it for two hours: PIN dialog never came up so cant register no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged no wifi trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot reflashing 2008.9 :( BillK On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 00:55 +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote: Anyone? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR Images: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for sure) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
GSM is flaky, but I can not put my finger yet on any specific faults. But shutdown is broken. If I shutdown from X, the screen will freeze at some time and shutdown seems to abort some way. I had to reset the device. If I shutdown with X stopped, I see dozens of exquisite errors, but it eventually shuts down. But all after all I'm extremely pleased with this distro. I know it is not done yet, but this is my favourite from now on. ;) Enlightenment/Illume crashes from time to time, but this seems to be normal on every distro I had so far. PS: gta01 PPS: Nice fit $ df -h / FilesystemSize Used Available Use% Mounted on rootfs 61.1M 59.8M 1.3M 98% / David Garabana Barro wrote: Anyone? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR Images: http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-testing/images/neo1973/ It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for sure) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 3:57 PM, Tilman Baumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GSM is flaky, but I can not put my finger yet on any specific faults. But shutdown is broken. If I shutdown from X, the screen will freeze at some time and shutdown seems to abort some way. I had to reset the device. If I shutdown with X stopped, I see dozens of exquisite errors, but it eventually shuts down. This is a known problem indeed. We're working on the issue. But all after all I'm extremely pleased with this distro. I know it is not done yet, but this is my favourite from now on. ;) Quite pleased to hear that :-) PS: gta01 This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us think about? Thanks, -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Actually I have the same problem with usb networking. I did not wrote about this before but I always had this problem. I´m using opensuse 11 and I´ve set usb networking on hot-plug and normally it works. When I connect my FR with SHR nothing happens and when I´m trying to ping my phone I get ´No route to host´ error. But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that someone else has it too. Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Leonti Bielski wrote: Actually I have the same problem with usb networking. I did not wrote about this before but I always had this problem. I´m using opensuse 11 and I´ve set usb networking on hot-plug and normally it works. When I connect my FR with SHR nothing happens and when I´m trying to ping my phone I get ´No route to host´ error. But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that someone else has it too. Hello. I'm experiencing the same issue with Om2008.daily. I haven't tried SHR yet. USB networking works with FSO m4 though. I believe it's kernel's fault. Kind regards, -- Lech Karol Pawłaszek ike You will never see me fall from grace [KoRn] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thursday 13 November 2008 16:27:37 Leonti Bielski wrote: But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that someone else has it too. I solved it making a /etc/init.d/networking restart from neo terminal usb0 had no IP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Julien Cassignol wrote: PS: gta01 This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us think about? Channel seems empty. I'm that DPThought dude there. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Tilman Baumann wrote: Julien Cassignol wrote: PS: gta01 This is interesting. We had issues on GTA01, could you please come and join us on #openmok-cdevel on freenode, to give more input for us think about? Channel seems empty. I'm that DPThought dude there. Doh, typo. Never mind. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Doh, typo. Never mind. I can't access IRC right now, my company network seems to think it's funny not to authentify my computer. Will be there tomorrow ! -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
David Garabana Barro wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2008 16:27:37 Leonti Bielski wrote: But I didn´t think it´s SHR specific problem until I´ve seen that someone else has it too. I solved it making a /etc/init.d/networking restart from neo terminal usb0 had no IP ;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't work unless you restart networking. Kind regards, -- Lech Karol Pawłaszek ike You will never see me fall from grace [KoRn] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't work unless you restart networking. This is weird and unheard of on our side. I flashed the image and had no problem last time. Did you flash the kernel too? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Julien Cassignol wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Lech Karol Pawłaszek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ;-) I can confirm this. I've just flashed SHR and USB networking doesn't work unless you restart networking. This is weird and unheard of on our side. I flashed the image and had no problem last time. Did you flash the kernel too? I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all. I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01. -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thursday 13 November 2008 18:34:27 Tilman Baumann wrote: Julien Cassignol wrote: I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all. I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01. Mine is production gta02. I have also flashed right kernel. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thursday 13 November 2008 18:34:27 Tilman Baumann wrote: I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all. I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01. I'm booting SHR from SD, just for if it matters. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
I've reflashed with 2008.9, but will try it again on the weekend and send the logs etc. wifi was my problem, I'd upgraded the security and forgot to change my reference wpa_supplicant.conf, so I need to test again - should work as exposure showed the networks. MofI's never worked for me and I am not a fan of wifi gui's - you cant see whats happening and more often than not they just cause frustration (like mofi :) - maybe I need to test that again too. usb networking didnt register as being plugged in on the host, but it did start charging. At the first boot (clean shutdown before flashing etc), the SD card wasnt registered. I moved it to my laptop and restored the partition table from a handy backup and after that it was fine on a number of reboots. Ive also lost it a couple of times on 2008.9 which I thought had been fixed as well, so I normally use Simon Matthews fixes (turns SD clock on before suspend) and have not had any problems afterwards. In this case though, it was straight after boot - no suspend or errors seen. One off glitch? With wifi up and a proper keyboard/screen I'll be able to look into it a lot easier :) BillK On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 14:33 +0100, Julien Cassignol wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks pretty, faster than 2008.9 (subjective), just seems nicer. Tried the illume theme, and the scalable (needs setting up - defaults are not right for the FR) downside after playing with it for two hours: PIN dialog never came up so cant register Logs on our trac should help us to see if this is truly an issue of SHR or frameworkd. no usb networking - host never sees it being plugged We never had, ever, this problem. No user has complained about that. Could you be more specific? no wifi Image is shipped with mofi. Everybody who used it on our team and users managed to connect to a WPA (it's only WPA) network. Regarding your previous problem, mofi ships with a connect.sh script (which we put in /etc/mofi) which does a ifconfig usb0 down. If you try USB after wifi, as mofi disable usb, it will surely fail. Could you please try again, USB before wifi ? trashed the partition on my 8Gb sandisk SD card on first boot Again: could you be more specific? -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:33 PM, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've reflashed with 2008.9, but will try it again on the weekend and send the logs etc. wifi was my problem, I'd upgraded the security and forgot to change my reference wpa_supplicant.conf, so I need to test again - should work as exposure showed the networks. MofI's never worked for me and I am not a fan of wifi gui's - you cant see whats happening and more often than not they just cause frustration (like mofi :) - maybe I need to test that again too. I doubt you were able to see the wifi networks through exposure, as it needs connman and we don't ship with it (neither do we build the version which would work with it). Were you talking about 2008.9? usb networking didnt register as being plugged in on the host, but it did start charging. As I said, this is weird and I would like to see some info (kernel version, dmesg, etc...) At the first boot (clean shutdown before flashing etc), the SD card wasnt registered. I moved it to my laptop and restored the partition table from a handy backup and after that it was fine on a number of reboots. Ive also lost it a couple of times on 2008.9 which I thought had been fixed as well, so I normally use Simon Matthews fixes (turns SD clock on before suspend) and have not had any problems afterwards. In this case though, it was straight after boot - no suspend or errors seen. One off glitch? No idea, never used the SD card here :-) With wifi up and a proper keyboard/screen I'll be able to look into it a lot easier :) Proper keyboard/screen? -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Mine is GTA02, matching kernel and ran from flash. Billk On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 18:53 +0100, David Garabana Barro wrote: On Thursday 13 November 2008 18:34:27 Tilman Baumann wrote: I just like to report that I have no USB networking issues at all. I have of course the right kernel and i have a gta01. I'm booting SHR from SD, just for if it matters. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
The SHR image was NOT released. This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's not complete enough for a day to day usage basis. There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which we would like to settle before any official release. We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim PIN wasn't registered yet :-). I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't. It's merely a preview. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
Downloading the preview right now I will try to test it tomorrow thank you guys :) El jue, 13-11-2008 a las 01:08 +0100, Julien Cassignol escribió: The SHR image was NOT released. This is a preview only, we didn't release it yet because we feel it's not complete enough for a day to day usage basis. There's also some issues with frameworkd (even MS4, sad to say), which we would like to settle before any official release. We would also like to build a graceful failure feature to avoid lots of complaining about my contacts app crashed ! just because the sim PIN wasn't registered yet :-). I use it on a day to day basis myself, it's quite stable, and I'm enjoying it, but please do not consider this as a release. This isn't. It's merely a preview. -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400 Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
It's pretty, seems stable, is *fast* (for me faster than FDOM and FSO M3 for sure) And is the very first time I can receive calls with suspended phone. Neither FDOM or Qtopia/Qtextended allowed it to me (#1024, I suppose) Is far from perfect, but is the first time an Openmoko based distro gave me so good impression. Now I'll give FSO M4 a try. After all, SHR is based on FSO... -- David Garabana Barro jabber google talk ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clave pública PGP/GPG: http://davide.garabana.com/pgp.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 1:13 AM, David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now I'll give FSO M4 a try. After all, SHR is based on FSO... SHR is based on frameworkd, and by extension on FSO, but we modified a bunch of things. For instance, our default conf includes the ti_calypso_deep_sleep feature (#1024 fix). It also logs on file by default, to have good bug reports. Even though the whole credit goes to the FSO team, we worked a bit on making this packaged to have a fully working distro, easy to use, from the start. After all, as Mickeyl said, FSO/Zhone are demos for their work :-) So even if, to our eyes, this isn't quite yet it (stable, easy to use, reliable, simple, beautiful), as there's still a bunch of things to do, we're eagerly going towards this, and we're waiting for people to come over and help. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr] SHR image released
- David Garabana Barro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And is the very first time I can receive calls with suspended phone. Neither FDOM or Qtopia/Qtextended allowed it to me (#1024, I suppose) I'm sure I've received calls and SMS's with my phone suspended with both Qtopia (4.3.3 snapshot) and QT Extended (4.4.2). -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
