Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Mark wrote: I have been scouring the site all along, but the last time I checked http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02 that timeline information was NOT there. Apparently I've been paying a lot more attention than you... Wolfmane ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Wait, I'm confused here now. If I knew about this page and about the update, then how am I the one not paying attention. If I know information you don't, usually that's an indicator that you're not paying attention. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Ok then, just update the wiki and close the mailinglist! RTFM is never a good answer in a community. I have already read that but no shipping date is specified what i could find, just posting to and from users that belives, guessing or have heard, someone must know!?. And about the specs, users that have used the current Neo maybe can give some input if the GTA02 ar worth waiting for in a specs point of view. On 10/23/07, Sébastien Lorquet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sometimes RTFM is a good answer... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02#.22Phase_2.22_.28GTA02.2C_.22Mass_Market.22.29 * 802.11 b/g WiFi * Samsung 2442 SoC * SMedia 3362 Graphics Accelerator * 2 3D Accelerometers * 256MB Flash * 1700mAh Battery * Faster CPU - S3C2442/400 * LEDs illuminating the two buttons. 2007/10/23, Andreas Utterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes im sorry, i meant the GTA02 :-) and by release date i mean when its available for ordering. I realy want to have a neo, but want to wait for the 02 since i have heard something about nov-dec? is that correct? Is it big differences in specs and looks of the GTA02 and the now available neo? /Andreas U On 10/22/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Community Hi, welcome! When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet. And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date? a) the first announcement that you can order b) the first device did leave the production line c) the first real shipment has started d) the first owner has it in his hands? -- hns ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andreas Utterberg Thundera AB ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sébastien LORQUET - 이세영 (李世榮) Ingénieur ENSPG 2006 / ENSIMAG-ASI 2007 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andreas Utterberg Thundera AB ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Thanx Michael I apprichiate the answer, im sitting on needles and pins here, me and a few other friends, and we dont know if we shall order the current device on sale since we can be missing importent upgrade specs or fundamental support in the new hardware. As i read in some other post, its importent to keep the community posted since many possible contributers maybe ware waiting for the GTA02, but can think of buying the current Neo if it takes to long to get the GTA02 to the market. Im one of them.. The latest i have seen is the 20:e of dec which is to long for me, so im buying the current neo for sale. Hopefully im not missing to much in a spec point of view. /Andreas On 10/23/07, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andreas Utterberg wrote: Yes im sorry, i meant the GTA02 :-) and by release date i mean when its available for ordering. I realy want to have a neo, but want to wait for the 02 since i have heard something about nov-dec? is that correct? Hello Andreas, You are partially correct, we are aiming for November, but the truth is we can't tell exactly when it will be available for ordering because we don't know what unexpected surprises we'll run in to. Right now we're pretty happy with the third revision of GTA02 (GTA02v3). We started the forth revision already and we should be our first units of GTA02v4 so that we can start evaluating them any day now. But as to exact dates, we can not predict that. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andreas Utterberg Thundera AB ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
Indeed I did, but I should take it one step further: If any of you spot a place in the wiki which mentions October, please replace it with November Even better, add in parenthesis (As of 24 October 2007: GTA02v3 currently being evaluated; GTA02v4 evaluation to start any day) Michael Jeff Andros wrote: just making sure this pops up on Michael's email, he said to send him any place in the wiki that it says october On 10/23/07, *ian douglas* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available :o) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison still says October 2007 for the GTA02 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Yes im sorry, i meant the GTA02 :-) and by release date i mean when its available for ordering. I realy want to have a neo, but want to wait for the 02 since i have heard something about nov-dec? is that correct? Is it big differences in specs and looks of the GTA02 and the now available neo? /Andreas U On 10/22/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Community Hi, welcome! When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet. And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date? a) the first announcement that you can order b) the first device did leave the production line c) the first real shipment has started d) the first owner has it in his hands? -- hns ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andreas Utterberg Thundera AB ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
sometimes RTFM is a good answer... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02#.22Phase_2.22_.28GTA02.2C_.22Mass_Market.22.29 * 802.11 b/g WiFi * Samsung 2442 SoC * SMedia 3362 Graphics Accelerator * 2 3D Accelerometers * 256MB Flash * 1700mAh Battery * Faster CPU - S3C2442/400 * LEDs illuminating the two buttons. 2007/10/23, Andreas Utterberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes im sorry, i meant the GTA02 :-) and by release date i mean when its available for ordering. I realy want to have a neo, but want to wait for the 02 since i have heard something about nov-dec? is that correct? Is it big differences in specs and looks of the GTA02 and the now available neo? /Andreas U On 10/22/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Community Hi, welcome! When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet. And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date? a) the first announcement that you can order b) the first device did leave the production line c) the first real shipment has started d) the first owner has it in his hands? -- hns ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andreas Utterberg Thundera AB ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Sébastien LORQUET - 이세영 (李世榮) Ingénieur ENSPG 2006 / ENSIMAG-ASI 2007 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
Mark schrieb: As someone who has been waiting on pins and needles for months for this phone, I too am wondering why there has not been an announcement of some kind, since up to now they've been saying October and we're 3/4 of the way through the month. If it's going to be January or later, that's fine (and that's probably still optimistic, considering what I've been reading on the lists), but they really should keep us posted. It's extremely inconsiderate to keep everybody in suspense like this. - Wolfmane Yes, I think the same. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Kevin Zuber wrote: Mark schrieb: As someone who has been waiting on pins and needles for months for this phone, I too am wondering why there has not been an announcement of some kind, since up to now they've been saying October and we're 3/4 of the way through the month. If it's going to be January or later, that's fine (and that's probably still optimistic, considering what I've been reading on the lists), but they really should keep us posted. It's extremely inconsiderate to keep everybody in suspense like this. - Wolfmane Yes, I think the same. We've been told that boards are being tested, and that another revision may be needed. We've been told October won't happen, December is likely but things will depend on the results of the tests. Yesterday Michael said he was gathering info on this and would probably post it Friday. What more do you want? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 23 October 2007, Kevin Zuber wrote: Mark schrieb: As someone who has been waiting on pins and needles for months for this phone, I too am wondering why there has not been an announcement of some kind, since up to now they've been saying October and we're 3/4 of the way through the month. If it's going to be January or later, that's fine (and that's probably still optimistic, considering what I've been reading on the lists), but they really should keep us posted. It's extremely inconsiderate to keep everybody in suspense like this. - Wolfmane Yes, I think the same. We've been told that boards are being tested, and that another revision may be needed. We've been told October won't happen, December is likely but things will depend on the results of the tests. Yesterday Michael said he was gathering info on this and would probably post it Friday. What more do you want? ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community A Big flashing neon sign on the wiki saying the exact time and date the phone will be available for purchasing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Al Johnson wrote: What more do you want? A Big flashing neon sign on the wiki saying the exact time and date the phone will be available for purchasing. Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available :o) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison still says October 2007 for the GTA02 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
just making sure this pops up on Michael's email, he said to send him any place in the wiki that it says october On 10/23/07, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available :o) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison still says October 2007 for the GTA02 -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
ian douglas wrote: Richard Reichenbacher wrote: Al Johnson wrote: What more do you want? A Big flashing neon sign on the wiki saying the exact time and date the phone will be available for purchasing. Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available :o) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison still says October 2007 for the GTA02 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Or perhaps you could continue searching the wiki for updated information. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02 Scroll down to estimated time line. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Andreas Utterberg wrote: Yes im sorry, i meant the GTA02 :-) and by release date i mean when its available for ordering. I realy want to have a neo, but want to wait for the 02 since i have heard something about nov-dec? is that correct? Hello Andreas, You are partially correct, we are aiming for November, but the truth is we can't tell exactly when it will be available for ordering because we don't know what unexpected surprises we'll run in to. Right now we're pretty happy with the third revision of GTA02 (GTA02v3). We started the forth revision already and we should be our first units of GTA02v4 so that we can start evaluating them any day now. But as to exact dates, we can not predict that. Michael ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:01:41PM -0700, Jeff Andros wrote: just making sure this pops up on Michael's email, he said to send him any place in the wiki that it says october I just did a search for october on the wiki. Looking only at the little snippets that show up with search results, these pages seem to need updating http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications 10: ...e in March, 1st phase is early July. 2nd phase is October... when we are ready for mass market appeal.}} http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware 165: ... phase 2 Neo1973, currently slated for release in October 2007. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone 2: ...rket.22.29|GTA02]]-revision that is announced for October 2007. For the earlier Neo1973 revision see [[IPho... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison 11: |October 2007 (Phase0, unconfirmed) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison/it 11: |October 2007 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/AR6K 1: ...o be the final WiFi modules for the device in the October release according to [[Neo1973#.22Phase_2.22_.28G... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone/fr 2: ...rket.22.29|GTA02]]-revision that is announced for October 2007. For the earlier Neo1973 revision see [[IPho... 92: |Vente au d?tail: October 2007 This is just what I saw on the first page of results, not including ones that are obviously user comments. Marco On 10/23/07, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available :o) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison still says October 2007 for the GTA02 -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- The man who strikes first admits that his ideas have given out. - Chinese proverb ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4?
It seems some community responsibility is in order. Being an open source project, it's important that positive and respectful lines of communication remain open. Those members who are close to the metal, so to speak, have an obligation to send proper communications out via the lists (or otherwise). Those members who are highly interested in project events and status have an obligation to remain as educated as possible and have a responsibility to fix any inconsistencies on the Wiki they find. By its very nature, a Wiki is only as good as the community supporting it. As well, the Wiki is, in fact, versioned, so rolling erroneous entries back is trivial. On 10/23/07, Marco Barreno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2007 at 12:01:41PM -0700, Jeff Andros wrote: just making sure this pops up on Michael's email, he said to send him any place in the wiki that it says october I just did a search for october on the wiki. Looking only at the little snippets that show up with search results, these pages seem to need updating http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Applications 10: ...e in March, 1st phase is early July. 2nd phase is October... when we are ready for mass market appeal.}} http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List_-_Hardware 165: ... phase 2 Neo1973, currently slated for release in October 2007. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone 2: ...rket.22.29|GTA02]]-revision that is announced for October 2007. For the earlier Neo1973 revision see [[IPho... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison 11: |October 2007 (Phase0, unconfirmed) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison/it 11: |October 2007 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/AR6K 1: ...o be the final WiFi modules for the device in the October release according to [[Neo1973#.22Phase_2.22_.28G... http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/IPhone/fr 2: ...rket.22.29|GTA02]]-revision that is announced for October 2007. For the earlier Neo1973 revision see [[IPho... 92: |Vente au détail: October 2007 This is just what I saw on the first page of results, not including ones that are obviously user comments. Marco On 10/23/07, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or perhaps just a correction on the wiki giving us a better estimate of when the GTA02 will be available :o) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo1973:_GTA01Bv4_versus_GTA02_comparison still says October 2007 for the GTA02 -- Jeff O|||O ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- The man who strikes first admits that his ideas have given out. - Chinese proverb ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Hi Community Hi, welcome! When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet. And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date? a) the first announcement that you can order b) the first device did leave the production line c) the first real shipment has started d) the first owner has it in his hands? -- hns ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Exact release date of GTA01Bv4??
Hi I would define 'exact release' date to be the first day the devices are shipped. On 22 Oct 2007, at 11:45, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Hi Community Hi, welcome! When is the exact release date of GTA01Bv4? The new Neo phone Do you mean the GTA02? There is no announcement yet. And just for my curiosity: how do you define exact release date? a) the first announcement that you can order b) the first device did leave the production line c) the first real shipment has started d) the first owner has it in his hands? -- hns ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
