Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
2009/4/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Well, seeing that there was a need for a video playing front end for mplayer - I thought I'll make a new app (based on Intone) that fulfills this need. Here are the problems I'm facing :- 1. I finally found out that I can create 2 windows using elementary, 1 for mplayer to play the video in (using -wid) and one for the controls. I've sized the windows to 640x400 for the window where the video shows up and 640x80 for the controls. But I can't seem to get to see the main window (the one that has the controls) at all. It works fine on my desktop - but I'm not using illume there. i think the config of illume on the neo forces windows to be maximised, so even if your windows is 20 x 20, it will fill the whole screen. either you need to modify this behaviour, or fit it all in one window i wanted to do a similar thing myself for an app i'm developing, but any parameters to place/size windows are ignored, afaics ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:58:41 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/4/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Well, seeing that there was a need for a video playing front end for mplayer - I thought I'll make a new app (based on Intone) that fulfills this need. Here are the problems I'm facing :- 1. I finally found out that I can create 2 windows using elementary, 1 for mplayer to play the video in (using -wid) and one for the controls. I've sized the windows to 640x400 for the window where the video shows up and 640x80 for the controls. But I can't seem to get to see the main window (the one that has the controls) at all. It works fine on my desktop - but I'm not using illume there. i think the config of illume on the neo forces windows to be maximised, so even if your windows is 20 x 20, it will fill the whole screen. either you need to modify this behaviour, or fit it all in one window i wanted to do a similar thing myself for an app i'm developing, but any parameters to place/size windows are ignored, afaics Maybe something could be done with dialogs - these don't seem to be maximised on my neo. solar.george signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
Am Dienstag, 14. April 2009 13:10:38 schrieb George Brooke: On Tuesday 14 April 2009 11:58:41 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/4/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Well, seeing that there was a need for a video playing front end for mplayer - I thought I'll make a new app (based on Intone) that fulfills this need. Here are the problems I'm facing :- 1. I finally found out that I can create 2 windows using elementary, 1 for mplayer to play the video in (using -wid) and one for the controls. I've sized the windows to 640x400 for the window where the video shows up and 640x80 for the controls. But I can't seem to get to see the main window (the one that has the controls) at all. It works fine on my desktop - but I'm not using illume there. i think the config of illume on the neo forces windows to be maximised, so even if your windows is 20 x 20, it will fill the whole screen. either you need to modify this behaviour, or fit it all in one window i wanted to do a similar thing myself for an app i'm developing, but any parameters to place/size windows are ignored, afaics Maybe something could be done with dialogs - these don't seem to be maximised on my neo. But they still get centered afaik. What about splitting the window in two parts, one playing the video and one with the controls? Or does that interfere with your mplayer approach? -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
Hi, But they still get centered afaik. What about splitting the window in two parts, one playing the video and one with the controls? Well, how do I do that? From what I understand, mplayer can take over a full window given it's id. I don't know how to make mplayer take over part of a window. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-video-problems%21%21-Help-%21-tp2632476p2632960.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
Right now I have a proof of concept - but it's not controllable since I can't see the window with the controls. Otherwise I can see video in the window (slow and out of sync with sound) - but it's not too bad overall ;-) I thought it would be far worse. Hopefully, someone out there can help. Thanks. Do you think it will be possible (and simpler) to have the controls come up as a transparent layer/app on top of the playing video (like on tapping). Why I thought of this is that sometime ago a transparent illume terminal/ keyboard thread was there on the list and the package worked. I will try to look in the archives for the link. Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:12 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: Right now I have a proof of concept - but it's not controllable since I can't see the window with the controls. Otherwise I can see video in the window (slow and out of sync with sound) - but it's not too bad overall ;-) I thought it would be far worse. Hopefully, someone out there can help. Thanks. Do you think it will be possible (and simpler) to have the controls come up as a transparent layer/app on top of the playing video (like on tapping). Why I thought of this is that sometime ago a transparent illume terminal/ keyboard thread was there on the list and the package worked. I will try to look in the archives for the link. Maybe something similar to what neon uses? Simple non-animated controls? Kind regards, Cameron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
2009/4/14 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: [...] 1. I finally found out that I can create 2 windows using elementary, 1 for mplayer to play the video in (using -wid) and one for the controls. I've sized the windows to 640x400 for the window where the video shows up and 640x80 for the controls. May you use mplayer fullscreen and toggle to the controls window with the AUX button (or a simple TS tap)? The best would be to have a transparent windows with big icons to pause/quit, ff and so on, very finger friendly regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
Hi, On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:12 AM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: Do you think it will be possible (and simpler) to have the controls come up as a transparent layer/app on top of the playing video (like on tapping). Maybe something similar to what neon uses? Simple non-animated controls? That would be ideal - but from what I understand - the sliding layer will be on the same window and I think the video will clash with it. The Illume bar gets all funky colors when I use it with the video playing. Also, there isn't anything like that in elementary yet. I thought of this, since it would be most apt, but I don't know how to implement it in elementary. I have a lot of limitations too ;-) which is why I'm asking questions here. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Intone-video-problems%21%21-Help-%21-tp2632476p2633169.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
From what I understand, mplayer can take over a full window given it's id. I don't know how to make mplayer take over part of a window. IIUC the window id passed to mplayer does not have to be a top-level window. Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
Hi c_c, thanks for bringing another superb app to the neo! I'm not an X11 expert, just trying to answer some of your questions here... If I babble nonsense, please correct me. 1. I finally found out that I can create 2 windows using elementary, 1 for mplayer to play the video in (using -wid) and one for the controls. I've sized the windows to 640x400 for the window where the video shows up and 640x80 for the controls. But I can't seem to get to see the main window (the one that has the controls) at all. It works fine on my desktop - but I'm not using illume there. The problem is that your windows will end up stacked ontop of each other, and here is why: In X11, you do normally not position your windows on the screen. You have a separate process, the window manager or WM, that takes care of this task. That way, the user can finetune the behaviour of this desktop in one place, instead of having to tune each and every app separately. When you create a new window, the window manager will be consulted and will come up with the best position/size for that new window. It will also draw some decorations around it (border, titlebar, icons), so you have a consistent look. On your desktop, where you have plenty of space, the best policy for the WM is to arrange windows such that they don't overlap too much. On the neo however, where screen space is a premium, the default strategy is to maximize and center each window and forget about the borders, titlebars and stuff... Both of your windows will simply be maximized and the one you create later will end up on top of the stack. That way, you loose your controls. 2. The video playing window is centered on the screen. Is there a way I can set the positions of these window's? Or do I need to look for a different solution. There is a way to have absolute control over the window by overriding the window manager: EAPI void ecore_evas_override_set(Ecore_Evas* ee, Evas_Bool override); or in elementary: EAPI void elm_win_override_set(Evas_Object *obj, Evas_Bool override); If you do this, the WM won't touch your window, and you will have to position and size it yourself. Be aware though, that you also will have to take into account any bars (taskbar / titlebar etc...) as you now work with raw screen coords. Usually, you have a normal window that is placed in the usual way by the wm. You learn it's size and raw coordinates on screen and place the overridden window such that it fits inside. 3. Is there a way to embed a window in the main window of an elementary app? There is the elementary inwin. But this is not a X11 window with it's own wid. As far as I know, there is currently no elementary widget for this. 4. As far as I can see, mplayer uses the entire window (whose handle is passed to it with wid) to play the video. Or is it possible to have it use only part of the window? Not that I know. But what you can do, is to create a second X11 window, with the override bit set. Position it manually, based on the co-ordinates of your main window, and hand its wid to mplayer. the WM won't add any decoration to it, thanks to the override bit, and mplayer will fill it with the movie, so the second window should not be recognizable as a window. You should be able to get the position and sitze of your main elm_win using something like this: EAPI void evas_object_geometry_get (const Evas_Object *obj, Evas_Coord *x, Evas_Coord *y, Evas_Coord *w, Evas_Coord *h); Then you can simply create a second elm_win with the right coordinates, and set the override bit _before_ you make the window visible. Hope this helps... Cheers, Thomas -- Excercise 17: If the human brain was simple enough for us to understand we'd be so simple we couldn't understand. Prove this by induction. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Intone-video problems!! Help !
The best would be to have a transparent windows with big icons to pause/quit, ff and so on, very finger friendly Hm, if you want to get fancy, there is a way to have windows of any shape that are always on top as far as the window manager is concerned. Check out: EAPI void ecore_evas_shaped_set(Ecore_Evas* ee, Evas_Bool shaped); or in elementary: EAPI void elm_win_shaped_set(Evas_Object *obj, Evas_Bool shaped); This is really really super slow on the neo, and it might not even work with mplayer overlay windows. But normally, you would be able to make arbitrary shaped windows. (Check out the elementary-test app, there is a transparency test using this...) You might also get some inspiration from this proof-of-concept keyboard code: http://svn.om.vptt.ch/trunk/bubble-keyboard/src/bin/bubble-keyboard.c Hope this is useful... Cheers, Thomas -- Excercise 17: If the human brain was simple enough for us to understand we'd be so simple we couldn't understand. Prove this by induction. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
