Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Hi. Just for reference, I filed a ticket about this issue : http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1933 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is | brought up, and stabilizes after a while. | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug | after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact | that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that | stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ? Just to confirm that I experienced a similar behaviour with 2008.8 running from flash too :( Maybe I'll be able to provide more diagnostics once I'm more confident with the networking setup in 2008.8. -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;) It really could be related to the USB ports on your PC .. if for some reason your PC is not happy with the power-state changes demanded by the Freerunner, then it will reset the USB hard layer, and this has the effect that your internal USB GUID changes, confusing the usb- ethernet driver, and thus giving you inconsistent services. If its at all possible, try running some sort of USB diagnostic app on your PC while this is all going on or check your log files for USB-related messages in the meantime .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I kept trying, rebooted, tested, again, again, unplugged USB, | replugged... and TADA, at some point it magically worked ! | | I've typed-in a few commands, got networking (opkg update completed), | did a few more things... and ... it's now gone :( | | # ping 192.168.0.202 | PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data. | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable | | no kernel message on desktop side : usb not unplugged... | | I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;) | | I guess screen will be my friend. I would first guess this is simply the ifconfig to set Freerunner-side IP getting messed with. I really did not see flakiness of Ethernet over USB and I understood there is new scheme for managing IP allocation in this new rootfs. If anyone with a debug board sees this behaviour, just logging in on the debug serial console and doing ifconfig usb0 / route - -n would clear it up if it is that. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkieoFEACgkQOjLpvpq7dMokCgCfQuBWnoEa56g0Qw2O2KZImRrC +K4An3dP5fzVn5kvsELnycT6IDQSBfhZ =R/wR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;) It really could be related to the USB ports on your PC .. if for some reason your PC is not happy with the power-state changes demanded by the Freerunner, then it will reset the USB hard layer, and this has the effect that your internal USB GUID changes, confusing the usb- ethernet driver, and thus giving you inconsistent services. If its at all possible, try running some sort of USB diagnostic app on your PC while this is all going on or check your log files for USB-related messages in the meantime .. I don't believe so, as I've not had these issues with 2007.7, but it would be running from flash, whereas I have the problems with 2008.8 running from SD... maybe that's why ? Thanks anyway. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I kept trying, rebooted, tested, again, again, unplugged USB, | replugged... and TADA, at some point it magically worked ! | | I've typed-in a few commands, got networking (opkg update completed), | did a few more things... and ... it's now gone :( | | # ping 192.168.0.202 | PING 192.168.0.202 (192.168.0.202) 56(84) bytes of data. | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host Unreachable | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host Unreachable | From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=3 Destination Host Unreachable | | no kernel message on desktop side : usb not unplugged... | | I guess it's pretty flaky :( But still I see some (slow) progress ;) | | I guess screen will be my friend. I would first guess this is simply the ifconfig to set Freerunner-side IP getting messed with. I really did not see flakiness of Ethernet over USB and I understood there is new scheme for managing IP allocation in this new rootfs. If anyone with a debug board sees this behaviour, just logging in on the debug serial console and doing ifconfig usb0 / route -n would clear it up if it is that. Thanks for the feedback. Notice that I'm running 2008.8 from SD so that may change some behaviour vs running it from flash, explaining the network problems. Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is brought up, and stabilizes after a while. If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ? Anyway, I guess I'll be able to test 2008.8 from flash soon, and may be able to tell if that's better. In the meantime, 'screen -R -D' is my friend ;) Hope this helps. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is | brought up, and stabilizes after a while. | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug | after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact | that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that | stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ? This is also quite compatible with the idea the issue is around ip allocation on Freerunner side: when you remove and replug you will be doing something radical on the usb0 on Freerunner side (I guess the semantic is link down / link up, and logical usb0 network device stays there the whole while). But still then whatever deals with IP allocation can be triggered to reapply static IP or do DHCP request, etc and make the issue go away. | Anyway, I guess I'll be able to test 2008.8 from flash soon, and may | be able to tell if that's better. | | In the meantime, 'screen -R -D' is my friend ;) | | Hope this helps. Well no doubt your issue is real, I guess it is not underlying link though because I use it heavily with 2008.08 out of the picture here and it is OK. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkifTRsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMpwAQCfa5JNPU+2RzUrVZ4mZteuRw1u G+8An2lD6o5FliOmG58VUOVL4JHceMMu =/u3s -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network over USB flaky ? - Re: Booting OM 2008.08 from SD - Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Anyway, it seems it's rather unstable in the first times the system is | brought up, and stabilizes after a while. | If I unplug the USB cable when I lose IP connectivity, and replug | after 1/2 seconds, then it becomes more stable. Well maybe the fact | that I'm running a ping 192.168.0.202 continously helps also at that | stage : it may help maintain connectivity somehow ? This is also quite compatible with the idea the issue is around ip allocation on Freerunner side: when you remove and replug you will be doing something radical on the usb0 on Freerunner side (I guess the semantic is link down / link up, and logical usb0 network device stays there the whole while). But still then whatever deals with IP allocation can be triggered to reapply static IP or do DHCP request, etc and make the issue go away. | Anyway, I guess I'll be able to test 2008.8 from flash soon, and may | be able to tell if that's better. | | In the meantime, 'screen -R -D' is my friend ;) | | Hope this helps. Well no doubt your issue is real, I guess it is not underlying link though because I use it heavily with 2008.08 out of the picture here and it is OK. -Andy Just to confirm that I experienced a similar behaviour with 2008.8 running from flash too :( Maybe I'll be able to provide more diagnostics once I'm more confident with the networking setup in 2008.8. My 2 cents, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
