Re: New 2008.12 Release
> What is gta02v5-lowlevel.bin made for? only for you to ask -- and me to answer: check the archives, it has been answered often enough. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
> 6 sec to press power should be improved imho -- there is no need for it > to be more than 3 sec (enough time imho to differ between Power->AUx, or > AUX -> Power presses to get into different UBoots) I agree, though I would argue that there is absolutely no reason to have it any longer than 1 second - that's easily long enough that it won't turn on accidentally and short enough that no one would get pissed off at it: 1 second - ok 2 seconds - tolerable 3 seconds - barely tolerable 4 seconds - hmmm, is my battery dead? 5 seconds - ok, this is rediculous 6 seconds - my finger is getting sore 7 seconds - dude, WTF??? 8 seconds - about bloody time! Then there's the matter that if you release the power button the moment the AUX LED blinks it doesn't turn on (has to be held down for another second or so until the splash screen appears), which makes no sense at all - if feedback is provided that the device is about to turn on then it bloody well should turn on! I honestly wonder if OM has hired or at least consulted with a human interfaces expert, because it certainly doesn't feel like they have. Well, at least they finally added a volume control I suppose... My 2c of annoyances (I still have several dollars of annoyances left) -Ian -- http://darkstarshout.blogspot.com/ -- On the day *I* go to work for Microsoft, faint oinking sounds will be heard from far overhead, the moon will not merely turn blue but develop polkadots, and hell will freeze over so solid the brimstone will go superconductive. -- Erik Raymond, 2005 -- Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
guys -- looks for some email in the mailing list which described what packages to remove to bring it to that desired low startup time... I believe it is also described in wiki somewhere I've done it on my FDOM + updates and it is indeed reasonably quick (didn't measure exact timing though) 6 sec to press power should be improved imho -- there is no need for it to be more than 3 sec (enough time imho to differ between Power->AUx, or AUX -> Power presses to get into different UBoots) On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Vasco Névoa wrote: > With OM2008.9/testing and ASU theme + gsm0710muxd service, it' > definitely around 60 seconds. > > It's the faster i have seen on FR currently. > Yep. :) > > Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI? > That should only make a difference in the first part of boot (until > the first kernel line) I think... > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- .-. =-- /v\ = Keep in touch// \\ (yoh@|www.)onerussian.com Yaroslav Halchenko /( )\ ICQ#: 60653192 Linux User^^-^^[17] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:56 -0800, abatrour a écrit : > Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ What is gta02v5-lowlevel.bin made for? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
Antony King a écrit : > I've copied those files to our UK mirror here: > > http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors > > Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them: > > 4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47 gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin > e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34 gta01bv4-u-boot.bin > 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin > 7f2f26e53fc787450f84286d9f0726cf gta02v5-lowlevel.bin > a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 > 48dc258d9e342fc8b2453457b7179907 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz > 6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4 Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin > > If anyone from OM or elsewhere sees any different to those, please let us > know ! > > Antony. > Same md5 for me (I didn't downloaded the rest) : 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4 Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 Maybe you can you put that somewhere on the wiki ? Johann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
> -Message d'origine- > De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Andy Green > Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2008 12:09 > À : List for Openmoko community discussion > Objet : Re: New 2008.12 Release > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > > | Cons : > | - Didn't boot after flash. I made several tries, it was stuck at > debugfs dir > | creation failed. I had to aux+power, choose boot and it > worked. Now it > | works. (i'm using QI) > > My guess is this might be the "ro" business, Qi has ro in the > kernel commandline but this update apparently does not remount rw. But, in that case, it would never boot, no? After booting one time using aux+power, it works now > > | - Doesn't see my sdcard > > Hmm is the /dev/mmcblk0p1 etc there through? > I found why: /etc/fstab contains only an entry for partition1, and it's fat here. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
2008/12/19 Robin Paulson : > what specifically relating to the freerunner hardware has changed; is > there any documentation anywhere? > > is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs up to date? No it's not up-to-date. Note that of course it's up to date regarding 2008.12 release which still has 2.6.24 kernel, but the 2.6.28 has a lot/most paths in different form. I now put a note about that there. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
Citando KaZeR : >> Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and >> my bootup time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can >> explain this? > I have double checked: 39s > Note that i'm talking of time to destktop, at that point for example gsm > hasn't registered to network. With OM2008.9/testing and ASU theme + gsm0710muxd service, it' definitely around 60 seconds. > It's the faster i have seen on FR currently. Yep. :) > Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI? That should only make a difference in the first part of boot (until the first kernel line) I think... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
> -Message d'origine- > Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and > my bootup time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can > explain this? I have double checked: 39s Note that i'm talking of time to destktop, at that point for example gsm hasn't registered to network. It's the faster i have seen on FR currently. Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI? Yesterday's FSO M4 was awfully slow to boot, something like 150s iirc.. > > > - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, > you loose > > the network connection. > But that has always been like that, right? Possible, i haven't used OM that much, for various reasons. In other distros this behavior is different, and i personnaly find it more user-convenient. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
This new distribution is pretty usable but i have a problem. I want to use the qtopia light and power for managing the power. I've installed the package, started the application from shell but it doesn't work! it can't manage the power, if i change some value light brithness or suspend time..all remains the same! how can i fix? have i to change some configuration file to tell the OM to use the qtopia power management? thanks a lot - Original Message - From: "Vasco Névoa" To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: RE: New 2008.12 Release Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 11:09:42 + Citando KaZeR : > Pro : > - OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so long?), > start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s! Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and my bootup time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can explain this? > - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, you loose the > network connection. But that has always been like that, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
Citando KaZeR : > Pro : > - OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so long?), > start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s! Strange, I have an OM2008.9 fully updated with "testing" and my bootup time is 30 seconds more than that... anyone can explain this? > - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, you loose the > network connection. But that has always been like that, right? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Cons : | - Didn't boot after flash. I made several tries, it was stuck at debugfs dir | creation failed. I had to aux+power, choose boot and it worked. Now it | works. (i'm using QI) My guess is this might be the "ro" business, Qi has ro in the kernel commandline but this update apparently does not remount rw. | - Doesn't see my sdcard Hmm is the /dev/mmcblk0p1 etc there through? - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklLgL8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrjFwCeKK5MBC+SG2TRJYepKna1but/ 7dAAnRHeReaF6Ll8yXRSHABXMxKYIj5y =vpxF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
That's strange, I didn't get the announce mail... Citando Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote: >> >> > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some >> > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time >> > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it. >> > > >> > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago. >> In this list or where? >> >> Could someone point out the biggest changes? > > OpenMoko announce list. > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/28.html > > Rui > > -- > P'tang! > Today is Pungenday, the 61st day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 > + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown > + Whatever you do will be insignificant, > | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi > + So let's do it...? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
2008/12/19 Antony King : >> http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ > > I've copied those files to our UK mirror here: > > http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors > > Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them: > > 4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47 gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin > e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34 gta01bv4-u-boot.bin > 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin i wish om would print the version of u-boot on the downloads page - can anyone here report what it is? is it a new version, or just a re-build of an existing version? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
On Friday 19 December 2008 07:56:20 abatrour wrote: > Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ I've copied those files to our UK mirror here: http://openmoko.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Mirrors Openmoko haven't supplied MD5s for the images; here's what I make them: 4ade0b3d3210ec9e9bf34bc694f0dd47 gta01bv4-lowlevel.bin e9cc57e863b63abfd593f97b19801b34 gta01bv4-u-boot.bin 1f200d7123a26e16ff0415f59695dfe3 gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin 7f2f26e53fc787450f84286d9f0726cf gta02v5-lowlevel.bin a1ba1806ced7b6b7791802d654514ce8 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 48dc258d9e342fc8b2453457b7179907 Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz 6b1e33f3e83034613d33a1a3583bdac4 Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin If anyone from OM or elsewhere sees any different to those, please let us know ! Antony. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
> -Message d'origine- > De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Yogiz > Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2008 11:25 > À : community@lists.openmoko.org > Objet : Re: New 2008.12 Release > > > > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some > > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time > customizing > > > my 2008.9 to mess with it. > > > > > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago. > In this list or where? > In fact i've also subscribed to annou...@lists.openmoko.org I'm forwarding you the mail directly. > Could someone point out the biggest changes? Pro : - OMG fast boot time (press power for 8 seconds (boring, why so long?), start stopwatch at first line of text. Time to desktop : 38s! Cons : - Didn't boot after flash. I made several tries, it was stuck at debugfs dir creation failed. I had to aux+power, choose boot and it worked. Now it works. (i'm using QI) - Doesn't see my sdcard - Phone goes to suspend even if you have usb connected. So, you loose the network connection. I'm sure i'll find more 'Pros' after more tests :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
Her the change log: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.12_Update 2008/12/19 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote: >> >> > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some >> > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time >> > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it. >> > > >> > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago. >> In this list or where? >> >> Could someone point out the biggest changes? > > OpenMoko announce list. > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/28.html > > Rui > > -- > P'tang! > Today is Pungenday, the 61st day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 > + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown > + Whatever you do will be insignificant, > | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi > + So let's do it...? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 12:25:19PM +0200, Yogiz wrote: > > > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some > > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time > > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it. > > > > > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago. > In this list or where? > > Could someone point out the biggest changes? OpenMoko announce list. http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/announce/2008-December/28.html Rui -- P'tang! Today is Pungenday, the 61st day of The Aftermath in the YOLD 3174 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
2008/12/19 Timo Jyrinki : > but the user space hasn't been adapted to it (would require changes to > qtopia and elsewhere to take into account the new /sys paths). > > That said I'm using daily testing + 2.6.28 andy-tracking kernel and > I've a modified mokoservices.py to take care of the new /sys paths > when enabling/disabling components etc. what specifically relating to the freerunner hardware has changed; is there any documentation anywhere? is http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_sysfs up to date? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
> > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some > > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time > > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it. > > > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago. In this list or where? Could someone point out the biggest changes? Yogiz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: New 2008.12 Release
> -Message d'origine- > De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Yogiz > Envoyé : vendredi 19 décembre 2008 09:22 > À : community@lists.openmoko.org > Objet : Re: New 2008.12 Release > > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:56:20 -0800 (PST) abatrour > wrote: > > > > > Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. > > > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some > feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time > customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it. > I've received the official announcement around 30 minutes ago. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
2008/12/19 Xavier Bestel : > Can someone tell me if it's a recent kernel, or still 2.6.24 ? It should be 2.6.24 still. Surprisingly though, the last time I used daily testing I had no problems with suspend. 2.6.28 would be nicer, but the user space hasn't been adapted to it (would require changes to qtopia and elsewhere to take into account the new /sys paths). That said I'm using daily testing + 2.6.28 andy-tracking kernel and I've a modified mokoservices.py to take care of the new /sys paths when enabling/disabling components etc. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
Hi, On Fri, 2008-12-19 at 10:22 +0200, Yogiz wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:56:20 -0800 (PST) > abatrour wrote: > > > > > Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. > > > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ > > Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some feedback > before I roll it on. I've spent too much time customizing my 2008.9 to > mess with it. Can someone tell me if it's a recent kernel, or still 2.6.24 ? Thanks, Xav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New 2008.12 Release
On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:56:20 -0800 (PST) abatrour wrote: > > Just noticed on the server. I'm going to try it out right now. > > http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ Good news. I'll still wait for the announcement and for some feedback before I roll it on. I've spent too much time customizing my 2008.9 to mess with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community