Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
And what you think about this: http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-2-118407618 2009/3/31 Martino manda@gmail.com 2009/3/30 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it was beautifull but i think isn't easy to develop.. . -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Martino wrote: And what you think about this: http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-2-118407618 Gorgeous, although the notification box doesn't look so good as in previous mockups. Maybe it works better if it comes from the bottom and uses all the width. What would you put in Home, the common phone apps? Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
2009/3/30 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it was beautifull but i think isn't easy to develop.. . -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
2009/3/30 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yes it was beautifull but i think isn't easy to develop.. . -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Martino wrote: If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. Yes, that's what I was suggesting before: but using only one row for that. In general, I would use only one row to display the app icons, before or within categories, and allow the icon row to scroll horizontally (needs left/right arrow hints). Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: For illume based distros you have shortdesk to organize the icons, it works pretty well and is highly costumizable http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/sortdesk/ or http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html old screen shot of shortdesk in action thanks to costumizer kustomizer, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Kustomizer-home.png The main advantage on this layout for me is to display the icons for the most used apps (or favorites). Unfortunately, folder icons for app organisation is sooo computer biased and boring :-) Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Yes I think the same: the folder is not the right solution for a mobile device.. 2009/3/29 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: For illume based distros you have shortdesk to organize the icons, it works pretty well and is highly costumizable http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/sortdesk/ or http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html old screen shot of shortdesk in action thanks to costumizer kustomizer, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Kustomizer-home.png The main advantage on this layout for me is to display the icons for the most used apps (or favorites). Unfortunately, folder icons for app organisation is sooo computer biased and boring :-) Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
2009/3/29 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl: David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: For illume based distros you have shortdesk to organize the icons, it works pretty well and is highly costumizable http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/sortdesk/ or http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html old screen shot of shortdesk in action thanks to costumizer kustomizer, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Kustomizer-home.png The main advantage on this layout for me is to display the icons for the most used apps (or favorites). Unfortunately, folder icons for app organisation is sooo computer biased and boring :-) Totally agree, so that's why I suppose the creators hs decided to use this icons instead ;) http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1079.0.html Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
If the problem is to have the prefered or the most used apps easy accessible the solution could be put this apps before the categoty division.. 2009/3/29 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: The main advantage on this layout for me is to display the icons for the most used apps (or favorites). Unfortunately, folder icons for app organisation is sooo computer biased and boring :-) Totally agree, so that's why I suppose the creators hs decided to use this icons instead ;) http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1079.0.html Yes I had seen them, but I don't like them (at least as seen out of context) and I don't think replacing a classical folder icon by another one (even prettier) solves the problem. Actually it might make it worth (In my initial quick look I didn't even realise they were intended as folder icon replacements). A common UI mistake is to put an icon without a label... The UI provided by Martino is obvious (as it should), I just miss the common apps icons directly accessible. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Martino wrote: I think for optimize the low space in the screen that can be usefull have the apps in sub category expandible and reducible (sorry for my bad english.. :( ) like this muck up http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-117305756 What do yuo think? I like a lot the visuals but I don't see a point in the expand/shrink interface. Why would I want to have more than one category open? In addition, I can see a lot of scrolling/clicking coming out of this interface, to navigate categories/apps. On the other hand, the tabbed interface you have on the top right mock-up looks great to me. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Martino wrote: Thanks to evry body.. @Fernando: For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop icons from there into the toolbar. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Hi all I think the Hackable:1 distribution uses a quite efficient and quick way to organize the applications icons : a home screen with only the most used applications (now dates, contacts, dialer), and another screen with a list containing the categories. When selecting an item on the list, you get the filtered icons. Why not using this kind of menu for other distributions ? Kimaidou 2009/3/28 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: Thanks to evry body.. @Fernando: For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop icons from there into the toolbar. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
@Fernando: Mmm.. I undersatnd.. Yes sure but I thinked at the sub category vison on the main scree for more coerence at the illume.. In second Illume has just a similar solution with the large slider ... I don't know If you understand but my english is very bad.. @Kimaidou: I don't try the hackable:1, how it is the menu? where I can find some screen shot? And also I think at similar solution (in the svg there are some test but nothing good).. 2009/3/28 kimaidou kimai...@gmail.com Hi all I think the Hackable:1 distribution uses a quite efficient and quick way to organize the applications icons : a home screen with only the most used applications (now dates, contacts, dialer), and another screen with a list containing the categories. When selecting an item on the list, you get the filtered icons. Why not using this kind of menu for other distributions ? Kimaidou 2009/3/28 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: Thanks to evry body.. @Fernando: For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop icons from there into the toolbar. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
Martino wrote: @Fernando: Mmm.. I undersatnd.. Yes sure but I thinked at the sub category vison on the main scree for more coerence at the illume.. In second Illume has just a similar solution with the large slider ... I don't know If you understand but my english is very bad.. I'm afraid I don't follow you. Maybe you could post in Italian (I guess it's your language) and post also an automatic English translation (e.g. using translate.google.nl). Some other remarks, merely my very subjective opinion: - in the first picture, I don't like so much the layout of the top bar. The bar doesn't look so elegant, as the rest of the design, because: -- it looks un-organised with wasted space. I suppose the two icons on top left represent running applications. I would rather have mini-icos representing running applications, fit next to the already existing min-icons, without a need to expand de top bar. -- IMHO, the notification/info mini icons should also never move (they went down with the expansion). They should provide a sense of stability/anchor to the interface. BTW, what would your interface do when a category has more icons than can be fitted in one line? Would it work like a horizontal scrollbar or would the area expand vertically to fit all icons, or... I hope I'm not making you loose motivation with my challenges. I really like the visuals and it looks a clean, elegant and intuitive interface. I would love to have something along those lines in my FR. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Yes I must study hard english... :P At first I'm not loose my motivation on the contrary I want people tall me wath is wrong or could be better.. The first picture is an old muck up and the style isn't very good.. Yes the mini icons are the running apps.. I'll go to improve the space ottimization and the notifycation .. The second interface is composed by 2 parts.. One about the apps organization and a second around the notification system... (the keyboard is only a clone of the cupcake android kbd) The organization in category is IMHO the simply way to don't show all the apps on the desk without loose the original (minimal and great) idea of illume.. Of course when the category have more icons it use more raw .. The idea that I think usefull around the notification system is to give more highlights at the notification manager.. Or rather when you want to see all the notifications can appeare a window with all of this and the rest of the desktop become more dark... 2009/3/28 Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl Martino wrote: @Fernando: Mmm.. I undersatnd.. Yes sure but I thinked at the sub category vison on the main scree for more coerence at the illume.. In second Illume has just a similar solution with the large slider ... I don't know If you understand but my english is very bad.. I'm afraid I don't follow you. Maybe you could post in Italian (I guess it's your language) and post also an automatic English translation (e.g. using translate.google.nl). Some other remarks, merely my very subjective opinion: - in the first picture, I don't like so much the layout of the top bar. The bar doesn't look so elegant, as the rest of the design, because: -- it looks un-organised with wasted space. I suppose the two icons on top left represent running applications. I would rather have mini-icos representing running applications, fit next to the already existing min-icons, without a need to expand de top bar. -- IMHO, the notification/info mini icons should also never move (they went down with the expansion). They should provide a sense of stability/anchor to the interface. BTW, what would your interface do when a category has more icons than can be fitted in one line? Would it work like a horizontal scrollbar or would the area expand vertically to fit all icons, or... I hope I'm not making you loose motivation with my challenges. I really like the visuals and it looks a clean, elegant and intuitive interface. I would love to have something along those lines in my FR. Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Launcher from Hackable:1 is simply that old one from Om2007.2. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..
For illume based distros you have shortdesk to organize the icons, it works pretty well and is highly costumizable http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/sortdesk/ or http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html old screen shot of shortdesk in action thanks to costumizer kustomizer, http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Kustomizer-home.png now has improved default icons http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1079.0.html 2009/3/28 Martino manda@gmail.com: I think for optimize the low space in the screen that can be usefull have the apps in sub category expandible and reducible (sorry for my bad english.. :( ) like this muck up http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-117305756 What do yuo think? -- Martino ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, GP2X the Wiz, Letux 400, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Indeed, those are beautiful. I'd absolutely love to see them implemented. Good Oxygen icons too. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
