Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-09 Thread John Dowd
On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:39:54 Paul Fertser wrote:
 You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources
 wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus
 turning everything off.

Thanks Paul.

I installed the fsoraw utility (funny, I did a opkg search fsoraw and found 
nothing, then I did a opkg list | grep -i fsoraw and saw it in the list. 
Then I typed opkg install fsoraw and voila, it installed).

I managed to get the fsoraw utility to start the wpa_supplicant applications 
and I could see the wpa handshake being done on the AP (Access Point) side. 
Then the udhcpc (busybox dhcp client) started up and did it's usual round of 
ignoring the response to its DHCPDISCOVER messages (this is why I want to get 
dhclient). Eventually it actually did send a DHCPACK and it had an IP address. 
I spent too long congratulating myself and gloating because just as I issued 
the ssh r...@wifi-ip-address-of-my-neo the AP log said that the wifi had been 
disassociated and the Neo was showing that the wifi timed out due to 
inactivity.

This is a few steps forward. Thanks for the help.
Cheers!!
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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-09 Thread Paul Fertser
John Dowd jdowds...@gmail.com writes:
 On Wednesday 09 September 2009 01:39:54 Paul Fertser wrote:
 You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources
 wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus
 turning everything off.
...
 I managed to get the fsoraw utility to start the wpa_supplicant applications 
 and I could see the wpa handshake being done on the AP (Access Point) side. 
 Then the udhcpc (busybox dhcp client) started up and did it's usual round of 
 ignoring the response to its DHCPDISCOVER messages (this is why I want to get 
 dhclient). Eventually it actually did send a DHCPACK and it had an IP 
 address. 
 I spent too long congratulating myself and gloating because just as I issued 
 the ssh r...@wifi-ip-address-of-my-neo the AP log said that the wifi had been 
 disassociated and the Neo was showing that the wifi timed out due to 
 inactivity.

Looks like you want to try wmiconfig -i eth0 --power=maxperf trick.

HTH
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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread John Dowd
On Friday 04 September 2009 16:23:51 George Brooke wrote:
 usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken.

 solar.george

Respectfully, who cares what the interface is called on the Neo side, this 
does not reflect back to the device (in this case a laptop) at the other end 
of the usb cable. That device (the laptop) does not see any ethernet i/f 
because the Neo is not starting one.

Cheers!!

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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread George Brooke
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 15:50:26 John Dowd wrote:
 On Friday 04 September 2009 16:23:51 George Brooke wrote:
  usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken.
 
  solar.george

 Respectfully, who cares what the interface is called on the Neo side, this
 does not reflect back to the device (in this case a laptop) at the other
 end of the usb cable. That device (the laptop) does not see any ethernet
 i/f because the Neo is not starting one.

 Cheers!!
I mean on the laptop side
1. Plug neo into laptop
2. run dmesg on laptop
[ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
[ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-2, CDC Ethernet 
Device, 
00:1f:11:01:70:8f
[ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
[ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5
3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5


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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread John Dowd
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 11:00:52 George Brooke wrote:
 I mean on the laptop side
 1. Plug neo into laptop
 2. run dmesg on laptop
 [ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
 address 2 [ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
 [ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-2, CDC
 Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:70:8f
 [ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
 [ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5
 3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5

Bingo, it works and you are correct, it's now on eth1. Good thing I put that 
Respectfully at the start of my reply or I might have to buy your beer for 
the rest of my life.

Cheers!!
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John Dowd
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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread George Brooke
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 16:11:17 John Dowd wrote:
 On Tuesday 08 September 2009 11:00:52 George Brooke wrote:
  I mean on the laptop side
  1. Plug neo into laptop
  2. run dmesg on laptop
  [ 9359.352059] usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and
  address 2 [ 9359.566175] usb 2-2: configuration #1 chosen from 2 choices
  [ 9359.914928] eth2: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-:00:1d.0-2, CDC
  Ethernet Device, 00:1f:11:01:70:8f
  [ 9359.915323] usbcore: registered new interface driver cdc_ether
  [ 9359.962215] udev: renamed network interface eth2 to eth5
  3. look for lines like the above which tell you that my neo is at eth5

 Bingo, it works and you are correct, it's now on eth1. Good thing I put
 that Respectfully at the start of my reply or I might have to buy your
 beer for the rest of my life.

 Cheers!!
No problem, glad it got sorted out.

solar.george


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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread John Dowd
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 12:24:41 George Brooke wrote:
 No problem, glad it got sorted out.

 solar.george

I can now manually configure the wireless interface but I need to come up 
automatically during boot and start the dhcp client. I can see that the kernel 
does boot and somewhere during init the interface is brought up. However, 
somewhere later during the init the wireless interface is being shutdown. If I 
go into the Setup application I can see that the wireless option is turned 
off. If I turn it back on it then the interface does come up. However, it is 
not persistent across boots. How do I turn off the current system setting of 
turning off the wireless interface? I have a wlan script in the 
/etc/init.d directory and once I manually bring up the wireless interface I 
can run it and it does configure the interface properly.

Also, I'm running into the same problem with the busybox udhcpc application 
that I've seen before. It does not see the DCHPOFFER from the AP. It ignores 
it and continues to issue the DCHPDISCOVER. There was a application dhclient 
that ran on the OM2009 distro. Is there anything available here on the 
unstable SHR? One person mentioned that the problem was that the Signal level 
(which is -147dBm) is way too low and should be at least -90dBm. Where would I 
change this? I have some control over the AP if that is where the change needs 
to be.

And on more piece of information that I need
I can bring up the shell on the Neo but the keyboard that pops up does not 
have an obvious way to insert (or type) a carriage return. There has to be a 
way?

Cheers!!
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John Dowd
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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread George Brooke
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 21:40:59 John Dowd wrote:
 And on more piece of information that I need
 I can bring up the shell on the Neo but the keyboard that pops up does not
 have an obvious way to insert (or type) a carriage return. There has to be
 a way?
drag down on the kbd, 
up to change layouts
left-right for space
right-left for backspace

you might be better off with the terminal layout (should be installed by 
default, just press on the 
up arrow on the right and select terminal)

solar.george


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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-08 Thread Paul Fertser
John Dowd jdowds...@gmail.com writes:
 I can now manually configure the wireless interface but I need to come up 
 automatically during boot and start the dhcp client. I can see that the 
 kernel 
 does boot and somewhere during init the interface is brought up. However, 
 somewhere later during the init the wireless interface is being
 shutdown. 

You certainly want to consult http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FSO_Resources
wikipage; it's frameworkd syncing resources on startup and thus
turning everything off.

 If I go into the Setup application I can see that the wireless
 option is turned off. If I turn it back on it then the interface
 does come up. However, it is not persistent across boots. How do I
 turn off the current system setting of turning off the wireless
 interface? I have a wlan script in the /etc/init.d directory and
 once I manually bring up the wireless interface I can run it and it
 does configure the interface properly.

Start your script after frameworkd and use fsoraw accordingly.

 Also, I'm running into the same problem with the busybox udhcpc application 
 that I've seen before. It does not see the DCHPOFFER from the AP. It ignores 
 it and continues to issue the DCHPDISCOVER. There was a application dhclient 
 that ran on the OM2009 distro. Is there anything available here on the 
 unstable SHR?

If dhclient is not in the feeds, i'm sure one of SHR folks (dos1, you
;) ) can add it.

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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-04 Thread Paul Fertser
John Dowd jdowds...@gmail.com writes:
 Is there a magic combination here that I can put together so that I can use 
 the wireless interface with the SHR load? 

The latest unstable SHR; then opkg update  opkg upgrade; then please
read FSO_resources wikipage.

SHR testing is basically an unsupported snapshot.

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Re: SHR - Trying to configure phone for a wireless demo...

2009-09-04 Thread George Brooke
On Friday 04 September 2009 16:32:50 John Dowd wrote:
 I would like to do this demo using the more recent SHR loads since the
 om2008 series seems to be abandoned. I have a few issues and I'm wondering
 if someone knows how to get around them.

 I've put the lastest stable load of SHR on. I have been able to get the
 wireless to work by modifying the various wpa_supplicant and init.d files
 by hand but, the phone comes up without the wireless chip turned on so I
 have to go into the settings application and actually turn it on. It's not
 persistent. I then have to run my init script and then it connects (I can
 see the wpa handshaking being done on my AP). However the DHCP client
 dhclient doesn't appear to be available under SHR and I have to fall back
 to busybox's udhcpc. It just doesn't seem to work. According to the SHR
 project page, I could use Mokonnect to configure all of this but it's not
 available to the stable version and I tried to load the unstable package
 but it gives me startup errors and then gacks. I've tried to put a unstable
 SHR load on the Neo but then I run into all sorts of incompatibility issues
 and I get things like the usb0 interface is unavailable and I therefore
 can't then get at the Neo to fix things.
usb0 should now be ethX just look in dmesg to see what number its taken.

solar.george


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