Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
I would like some suggestions on where to go, and wether I can export my google code svn history. Please let us know your conclusions :) Thanks, Rui On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:00:34PM -0500, Jim Ancona wrote: It appears that Google is actively blocking access to Google Code from Iran and several other countries. See their TOS: http://code.google.com/tos.html and these threads on their groups list: http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting/search?group=google-code-hostingq=iran I'm the owner of the android-on-freerunner Google Code project. I will initiate a discussion about moving the project to another site on the a-o-f mailing list, http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner, which doesn't appear to be blocked. Jim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Levy levy.santa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 14:12, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra If you prove me it's Google who's actively blocking Iran, then I will remove both omnewrotate and elmdentica from Google Code in protest. Nice, I would like to suggest the same for other Free projects! Best regards from a portuguese, Rui Best regards from a brazillian, Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: I would like some suggestions on where to go, and wether I can export my google code svn history. Please let us know your conclusions :) Some resources I found: There's a comparison page at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_hosting_facilities There's an API for Google's Issues database: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerAPI And the wiki content is in source control and can be exported, although syntax may be an issue. Jim Thanks, Rui On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:00:34PM -0500, Jim Ancona wrote: It appears that Google is actively blocking access to Google Code from Iran and several other countries. See their TOS: http://code.google.com/tos.html and these threads on their groups list: http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting/search?group=google-code-hostingq=iran I'm the owner of the android-on-freerunner Google Code project. I will initiate a discussion about moving the project to another site on the a-o-f mailing list, http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner, which doesn't appear to be blocked. Jim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Levy levy.santa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 14:12, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra If you prove me it's Google who's actively blocking Iran, then I will remove both omnewrotate and elmdentica from Google Code in protest. Nice, I would like to suggest the same for other Free projects! Best regards from a portuguese, Rui Best regards from a brazillian, Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 14:12, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra If you prove me it's Google who's actively blocking Iran, then I will remove both omnewrotate and elmdentica from Google Code in protest. Nice, I would like to suggest the same for other Free projects! Best regards from a portuguese, Rui Best regards from a brazillian, Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 04:21, dehqan65 dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: See it's required to know whether fater buying freerunner can android be used or not . Can be, if you only want to use it you can download the images from different places like this http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ But if you want to develop for Android you need to download the source from Sedar ou Gitorius. So an end-user need that wiki and issue tracking , if not , how does he/she solve his/her android problems on freerunner ? can he/she use here/other communities instead of code.google.com issue tracking ? The users can report the bugs with the code.google.com tracker I guess. Will Google admin of code.google.com make a mirror for free runner codes who is he/she ? No! We are the admins, I mean, Jim, and others, from this list. And also have a Gitorious and Sedar mirrors, also inside of this thread. why ? cause of a.android.com is forbidden . a.android.com does not exist! it is forbidden for anyone. and Does source.android.com contain whatever d.android.com contains ? No! source.android.com contain the source code for Android Operating System development. d.android.com contain the SDK and Tutorials to learn about how to make applications for Android Operating System. Regards dehqan Regards from a brazillian, Levy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . See Now with this condition i will not use code.google.com with proxy , So please guide regarding to this fact . How about questions 4 and 5 and 6? 4 - You said codes (stable) are also on repository so just we lack wiki and issue tracking Yes ? Is there any other wiki/ manual /help for beginners ? What does issue tracking mean and is there any other site for issue tracking ? *ultimately what problems will a android user be faced without using code.google.com* ? 5- Why wiki and issue tracking are on google , can not be on other host? what is wiki license ? maybe it can be copy on other host ? Or is not it possible to replace Host ? 6-What is this address http://source.android.com/download for ? Does it host codes also ? and why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:39:15 +0330 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . See Now with this condition i will not use code.google.com with proxy , So please guide regarding to this fact . Are you able to download a different openmoko distribution, like SHR? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . See Now with this condition i will not use code.google.com with proxy , So please guide regarding to this fact . Have you seen my reply suggesting that google does not intend to actually probibit the access for you? Taking that into account i can't see why you keep asking useless questions without clarifying your position. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
Are you able to download a different openmoko distribution, like SHR? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Yes , please guide on those questions nothing esle , no SHR no using proxy and other things : 4 - You said codes (stable) are also on repository so just we lack wiki and issue tracking Yes ? Is there any other wiki/any thing else that has wiki efficient for beginners at all is it necessary ? What does issue tracking mean and is there any other site for issue tracking ? *ultimately what problems will a android user be faced without using code.google.com* and d.android.com ? 5- Why wiki and issue tracking are on google , can not be on other host? what is wiki license ? maybe it can be copy on other host ? Or is not it possible to replace Host ? 6-What is this address http://source.android.com/download for ? Does it host codes also ? and why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians ? Paul Fertser , Your comment has been read but answers for above questions is required . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 07:41:53 +0330 a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Are you able to download a different openmoko distribution, like SHR? http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/ Yes , please guide on those questions nothing esle , no SHR no using proxy and other things : 4 - You said codes (stable) are also on repository so just we lack wiki and issue tracking Yes ? Is there any other wiki/any thing else that has wiki efficient for beginners at all is it necessary ? What does issue tracking mean Keeping track of software development. For example when you find a problem with some software you create an issue in the issue tracker. When the issue is fixed you close the issue. and is there any other site for issue tracking ? Lots. sourceforge.net is one such site. *ultimately what problems will a android user be faced without using code.google.com* and d.android.com ? Android users don't need the issue tracker. They should just need to install an image and use the phone. The issue tracker and wiki would only be important as a reference if they needed to solve a problem with the phone. 5- Why wiki and issue tracking are on google , can not be on other host? what is wiki license ? maybe it can be copy on other host ? Or is not it possible to replace Host ? You can put a wiki on any system. There are many free wiki applications. For example mediawiki.org 6-What is this address http://source.android.com/download for ? Does it host codes also ? and why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians ? If you mean why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians the my answer is I don't see why it should be. Please tell us what you are trying to accomplish. You will get better advice that way. Regards, -- Michael Smith Network Applications www.netapps.com.au | +61 (0) 416 062 898 Web Hosting | Internet Services signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; See it's required to know whether fater buying freerunner can android be used or not . Android users don't need the issue tracker. They should just need to install an image and use the phone. The issue tracker and wiki would only be important as a reference if they needed to solve a problem with the phone. So an end-user need that wiki and issue tracking , if not , how does he/she solve his/her android problems on freerunner ? can he/she use here/other communities instead of code.google.com issue tracking ? 5- Why wiki and issue tracking are on google , can not be on other host? what is wiki license ? maybe it can be copy on other host ? Or is not it possible to replace Host ? You can put a wiki on any system. There are many free wiki applications. For example mediawiki.org Will Google admin of code.google.com make a mirror for free runner codes who is he/she ? If you mean why android.com is not forbidden for Iranians the my answer is I don't see why it should be. why ? cause of a.android.com is forbidden . and Does sorce.android.com contain whatever d.android.com contains ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
06.11.2009 08:32, Shaz : On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com mailto:fercer...@gmail.com wrote: a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com mailto:dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . I can't exactly follow the logic. You said google doesn't want you to use their site. In fact i doubt that's true. They don't care if you use their site or not; they implemented that restriction solely to make some US jerks happy and to not have any problems with their inappropriate legislation. Also you should note that google is not a person, it's a large corporation functioning in a complex international environment. So even if they say they're prohibiting something it doesn't mean they actually do (and in fact they can't) and/or want it. I hope someone more skilled in Islam than me can clarify this matter from a religious POV but judging on common grounds it's perfectly moral to circumvent an artificial restriction especially given that restricting anybody is not intended. In simple words Google cannot give you something directly and you have to get it through the third party because the first party wants to give it to you while an /influential/ body above google is just creating hurdles due to its own interests. So I guess there is no moral issue to get it through a third party and Google has no benefit in restricting it, infact it is going against their interest considering the matter at hand. and from the view of the license GPL, it is explicitely allowed to use and modify this code. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Matthias Huber matthias.hu...@wollishausen.de wrote: 06.11.2009 08:32, Shaz : On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . I can't exactly follow the logic. You said google doesn't want you to use their site. In fact i doubt that's true. They don't care if you use their site or not; they implemented that restriction solely to make some US jerks happy and to not have any problems with their inappropriate legislation. Also you should note that google is not a person, it's a large corporation functioning in a complex international environment. So even if they say they're prohibiting something it doesn't mean they actually do (and in fact they can't) and/or want it. I hope someone more skilled in Islam than me can clarify this matter from a religious POV but judging on common grounds it's perfectly moral to circumvent an artificial restriction especially given that restricting anybody is not intended. In simple words Google cannot give you something directly and you have to get it through the third party because the first party wants to give it to you while an *influential* body above google is just creating hurdles due to its own interests. So I guess there is no moral issue to get it through a third party and Google has no benefit in restricting it, infact it is going against their interest considering the matter at hand. and from the view of the license GPL, it is explicitely allowed to use and modify this code. I think Apache license. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Some questions about android on Freerunner
267bb6670911050324v1fdcba05i47592504548f5...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Indeed=2C the admins of the AoF google code page are not blocking anyone = from visiting the site=2C using the Wiki and downloading the software. Trus= t me =3B-) _ How do you know ? code.google.com veiwing is forbidden for iranians =2Cand android codes is available in that address =2C Is That mean google also does not want iranians use android ? All I was saying was that the people doing the maintenance on the AoF pages= are not blocking anyone. If someone is blocking you it's someone else: Goo= gle=2C some government=2C gremlins=2C ... As suggested=2C maybe using Tor can be of help to you? =20 _ De nieuwe Windows 7: vind de juiste pc voor jou. Meer informatie. http://windows.microsoft.com/shop= ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; 1 - Code.google.com is forbidden from server side not Iran goverment . 2- Yes proxy solves problem but problem was not by passing filtering . 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . 4 - You said codes (stable) are also on repository so just we lack wiki and issue tracking Yes ? 5- Why wiki and issue tracking are on google , can not be on other host? what is wiki license ? maybe it can be copy on other host ? Or is not it possible to replace Host ? 6-What is this address http://source.android.com/download for ? Does it host codes also ? an74.125.39.139 android.comnid why that is not forbbiden for Iranians ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . I can't exactly follow the logic. You said google doesn't want you to use their site. In fact i doubt that's true. They don't care if you use their site or not; they implemented that restriction solely to make some US jerks happy and to not have any problems with their inappropriate legislation. Also you should note that google is not a person, it's a large corporation functioning in a complex international environment. So even if they say they're prohibiting something it doesn't mean they actually do (and in fact they can't) and/or want it. I hope someone more skilled in Islam than me can clarify this matter from a religious POV but judging on common grounds it's perfectly moral to circumvent an artificial restriction especially given that restricting anybody is not intended. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com wrote: a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com writes: 3 - Problem is that : our religion Eslam says you can use a person code while he/she allows you , now There are codes and wiki and .. on Google host .Even google is not owner of codes , Host pertains to google . So using that address and host is not possible for moslems now . I can't exactly follow the logic. You said google doesn't want you to use their site. In fact i doubt that's true. They don't care if you use their site or not; they implemented that restriction solely to make some US jerks happy and to not have any problems with their inappropriate legislation. Also you should note that google is not a person, it's a large corporation functioning in a complex international environment. So even if they say they're prohibiting something it doesn't mean they actually do (and in fact they can't) and/or want it. I hope someone more skilled in Islam than me can clarify this matter from a religious POV but judging on common grounds it's perfectly moral to circumvent an artificial restriction especially given that restricting anybody is not intended. In simple words Google cannot give you something directly and you have to get it through the third party because the first party wants to give it to you while an *influential* body above google is just creating hurdles due to its own interests. So I guess there is no moral issue to get it through a third party and Google has no benefit in restricting it, infact it is going against their interest considering the matter at hand. -- Shaz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 08:13, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; no, the page you can't access only contains software ... to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android -- Gand' Which softwares ? android softwares ? Do you mean we can not use android sofware ? Are contents of Index of /android made from those code ? or there is not any relation between http://code.google.com/ and Index of /android ? Actually, the current code is hosted here: http://gitorious.org/android-on-freerunner And code.google.com is used for wiki, issue tracking and in part for download area (official releases and weekly builds). Daily builds are available from yet another server here: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ The above page (http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/) contains 'unofficial' builds by the most active effort member Michael Trimarchi. Do you have access to groups.google.com? If not, you can try sending an email to android-on-freerun...@googlegroups.com -- Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Some questions about android on Freerunner
no, the page you can't access only contains software ... to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android Hi Dehqan, If this reply did not help you, try to post your question on the project mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner In case you have issues posting to the list, just let me know and I'll try to help you where I can. Niels. Access to this page is forbidden from server to iranians . To installing and using android on Freerunner do we need that address content ? but android.com is open for us . by and large can we use android legally ? _ Hebben jij en je vrienden leuke foto's van jullie feestje? Maak een groepsalbum en geniet nog extra na. http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
no, the page you can't access only contains software ... to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ -- Gand' On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 9:31 PM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Access to this page http://code.google.com/ is forbidden from server to iranians . To installing and using android on Freerunner do we need that address content ? but android.com is open for us . by and large can we use android legally ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
In The Name Of God The compassionate merciful Good day everyone ; Thanks for your attentions ; no, the page you can't access only contains software ... to use android on freerunner, you only need content from that page : Index of /android http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/ -- Gand' Which softwares ? android softwares ? Do you mean we can not use android sofware ? Are contents of Index of /androidhttp://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/made from those http://code.google.com/ code ? or there is not any relation between http://code.google.com/ and Index of /androidhttp://panicking.kicks-ass.org/download/? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
