Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the username for the user account of the registration. In the configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. I tried to run strace on the GUI version to watch and see when it tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even try. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the username for the user account of the registration. In the configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. I tried to run strace on the GUI version to watch and see when it tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even try. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify it and see if that gets it working. Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the linphone icon. I can see that it installed various png files to use. Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the proper icon file? Thanks for all your help Al. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the username for the user account of the registration. In the configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. I tried to run strace on the GUI version to watch and see when it tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even try. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify it and see if that gets it working. Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the linphone icon. I can see that it installed various png files to use. Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the proper icon file? Thanks for all your help Al. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the username for the user account of the registration. In the configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. I tried to run strace on the GUI version to watch and see when it tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even try. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Already checked but no joy. Al, I was fooling around with the GUI and found the About menu item that had the linphone website on it. Rather than bother you and the community (since I'm actually being paid to do this!!) I'll work through the website and figure out my problems. Thanks for the help. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify it and see if that gets it working. Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the linphone icon. I can see that it installed various png files to use. Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the proper icon file? Thanks for all your help Al. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the username for the user account of the registration. In the configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. I tried to run strace on the GUI version to watch and see when it tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even try. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
I found the problem. The actual directory being searched by default is the /usr/share/pixmap. Linphone is installing a directory containing its various png files there but not putting the extended path into the desktop.linphone file. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 10:03 AM, john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com wrote: Already checked but no joy. Al, I was fooling around with the GUI and found the About menu item that had the linphone website on it. Rather than bother you and the community (since I'm actually being paid to do this!!) I'll work through the website and figure out my problems. Thanks for the help. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Probably the wrong path to the icon in the .desktop file which from memory will be something like /usr/share/applications/linphone.desktop On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: 2.1.1 it appears. And since I have never used gnome (I'm a KDE guy), I had not thought of checking the gnome resource directory. I'll modify it and see if that gets it working. Since you seem to be in an informative mood I have one more question (for now.. lol). The array of Icon's displayed by the GUI (I guess I'm using illume/enlightenment GUI) only shows a blank box for the linphone icon. I can see that it installed various png files to use. Any ideas what I should look at as to why its not displaying the proper icon file? Thanks for all your help Al. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: Which version are you running? It used to be ~/.linphonerc for CLI and ~/.gnome2/linphone for GUI in 1.6 and 1.7, and probably 2.x too. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: But where does it go? Right now, the linphone application is using the username for the user account of the registration. In the configuration files of the cli version its set correctly. I tried to run strace on the GUI version to watch and see when it tried to open a configuration file but no joy. Didn't seem to even try. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: The structure of the config files for the linphone CLI and GUI are the same, so you should be able to take the working one for the CLI and copy it over the GUI one. At the very least you should be able to copy the registration details from one and paste it into the other. On Friday 19 December 2008, john dowd wrote: Thanks for the response guys, I appreciate the help. I was able to get the linphone application installed manually (package by package) onto the Neo. It even works to a point. I've only managed to get the command line version to work. So (this is funny), in order to place a SIP phone call from my Neo, I have to ssh into it from my laptop and then using the command line linphonec application, I can then actually register with the PBX and place a call. As a demo, this is really going to suck. I can't seem to configure the GUI version to use the appropriate settings to register with the PBX. I'll have a look at the source code (if I can find it) and if it's a dead end, I'll pull apart the twinkle debian package and try to install it. Any further advice would be appreciated. Cheers!! On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi wrote: Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com writes: extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? Chroot is the easiest way to do that. Surely it will waste extra 200M of space but SD cards are cheap. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St.
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Well, I flashed my Neo with the Om2008.9-gta02-20081106 image and jffs2 file system and I have a phone that boots once again. In fact I have it fully functional with my original target of an automatic wifi connection using WPA2 encryption to my Access Point. I'm running a laptop with hostapd and a USB wireless Dongle configured to be the wireless access point. I'm building my system out of experimental parts as a demo for my customer. On the laptop I have: 2.6.28-rc5 kernel (experimental) USB Wireless Dongle driver rt2x00usb (experimental and I had to hack it) hostapd Appilcation (release 0.6.6... experimental) Asterisk - open source PBX application I was using a Nokia e71 wifi and SIP enabled phone to connect to the access point that I had created but it would not see the SSID of my Access Point. This worried me since I had created it all on bleeding edge s/w and perhaps I had bled myself into a corner but, when I checked, all other devices could at least see my access point. I just happened to have been given a Neo Freerunner by the customer as well for future work. Well, it had 3 obvious advantages over the Nokia phone, 1. I could get at the s/w on it. 2. It Moos when it flips over. 3. Thanks to the ground breaking work of Carlo Menucci, it sends good vibes!! The last step is now before me, I need to get a SIP phone to work on the Neo (that's why the customer had originally chosen the e71, its a SIP enabled phone). There seems to be 2 available for the Neo but both present me with problems. The SIP phone called Twinkle is only available on the Debian distro. The SIP phone called Linphone seems to have some library issues. Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? Can the library issues with Linphone be easily solved? The errors I see when I try to install it as per the instructions on the Linphone page is: r...@om-gta02:/etc/opkg# opkg update parseVersion: ERROR: epoch in version is not numberparseVersion: ERROR: epoch in version is not numberparseVersion: ERROR: epoch in version is not numberparseVersion: ERROR: epoch in version is not numberDownloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/Om2008.8/all/Packages.gz this goes on for quite some time. Cheers!! On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:56 PM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: Konstantin wrote: roguem...@roguewrt.org schrieb: [ 204.715000] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcs2 [ 204.72] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2 Essentially the Neo is now a brick. I'm wondering where to go from here. I have installed 2008 version of the s/w on the phone. Unfortunately without the exact steps you took to get into this situation, we're unable to determine the correct steps to get you out. The most generic answers would be: 1). Reflash with your preferred distribution. 2). Boot from SD Card, access the flash memory and correct your mistake. Although I'm not sure if '2)' is possible as I've never tried. I've only ever come in from the other direction (modify SD from flash). Potentially, if it is simply the x server not starting, you may still be able to ssh in via usb and correct your mistake. I *might* just have the same problem. I tried opkg-upgrading my FDOM (OM2008.9) to testing, and now booting stops with the same messages the original poster has seen, plus the same vor vcs1 and vcsa1. Haven't found a way to fix this, unfortunately, as ssh doesn't seem to be running. The kernel however is still alive, responds to pings and prints out information about the changed power state when plugging in the charger or the usb cable. It's really hard to say. I know first hand that an opkg upgrade to testing can cause this. The original poster was having other issues aswell however. I'd say if your problems aren't intermittent then you may just have a bad upgrade. I'm tempted to think the dropbear problem is back aswell, as I overwrote all config files, the default a while back prevented ssh access except for localhost? or something silly. I remember having to modify the startup script via the om terminal app. Either way, I think using a testing image before opkg upgrading via testing is probably a better option. I haven't tried the FDOM script ... at all ... or FDOM for that matter ... but I imagine it would apply to testing? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
2008/12/19 john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com: Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? if you don't mind getting your hands a bit dirty, all you need to do is unpack the deb - it's some sort of compressed archive - and put the files in the correct location on your freerunner i've done this with the .deb for unison, and it's been working fine if you really wanted to, there's no reason why the twinkle files couldn't be re-packed as an opk, which i assume is also an archive of sorts? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
2008/12/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: 2008/12/19 john dowd jdowds...@gmail.com: Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? if you really wanted to, there's no reason why the twinkle files couldn't be re-packed as an opk, which i assume is also an archive of sorts? http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BuildingIpkgs for more info on making opkg format files ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
2008/12/19 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: Is there an easy way of porting a Debian package to the opkg format? extrapolating this point further, would it be possible to (manually) install apt and related tools to an om2008.9 system, and get access to the debian archives directly? or is mixing repositories/packaging systems a hideously bad idea, never to be attempted, that would be insane? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Thanks for the reply Sarton, I'm in the process now of flashing in another load onto the Neo. I have the SD card that came with the Neo. I'm running from FLASH right now. I never put a load on the SD. I'm not so sure I would accuse the boot loader unless there's something you know that I don't. The system does start to boot but it fails somewhere along the way. The kernel is loading but fails while loading modules I think. I noticed that when it has stopped writing to the console I can then plug in or remove the USB cable and I get the usual module load/unload output to the console. I'm beginning to suspect that the X server is dying. Unfortunately, I can't get at the device through a console to muck about with it. Cheers!! On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:05 PM, roguem...@roguewrt.org wrote: john dowd wrote: [SNIP] My point is that without modifying files on my Neo, it starts to behave differently. I have even more strange behaviour to report. After several reboot attempts (but no modifications to the Neo) it suddenly booted properly and I was up and running again. This was true for the last few hours. Now, it just started to behave badly once again. I am still testing my Access Point and the Neo gets booted quite a few times. its plugged into the power supply. Since I want the Neo to come up on its own I don't use the power switch/Gui to turn it off. I bring up a terminal and type in reboot. Ah ... are you running from SD Card already or from flash? This sort of behaviour is typical of unsupported SD Cards. If you are running from SD, what size is it? There are some tricks to get some cards working but I have had success with all 2GB cards. If you are running from nand, all I could suggest is a u-boot upgrade. Outside of that maybe there are hardware issues? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- John Dowd jd...@slashdevslashnull.org 133 Waverley St. Ottawa Ont. K2P 0V3 Home: (613)234-7884 Cell: (613)316-7884 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
roguem...@roguewrt.org schrieb: [ 204.715000] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcs2 [ 204.72] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2 Essentially the Neo is now a brick. I'm wondering where to go from here. I have installed 2008 version of the s/w on the phone. Unfortunately without the exact steps you took to get into this situation, we're unable to determine the correct steps to get you out. The most generic answers would be: 1). Reflash with your preferred distribution. 2). Boot from SD Card, access the flash memory and correct your mistake. Although I'm not sure if '2)' is possible as I've never tried. I've only ever come in from the other direction (modify SD from flash). Potentially, if it is simply the x server not starting, you may still be able to ssh in via usb and correct your mistake. I *might* just have the same problem. I tried opkg-upgrading my FDOM (OM2008.9) to testing, and now booting stops with the same messages the original poster has seen, plus the same vor vcs1 and vcsa1. Haven't found a way to fix this, unfortunately, as ssh doesn't seem to be running. The kernel however is still alive, responds to pings and prints out information about the changed power state when plugging in the charger or the usb cable. Regards, Konstantin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Konstantin wrote: roguem...@roguewrt.org schrieb: [ 204.715000] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcs2 [ 204.72] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2 Essentially the Neo is now a brick. I'm wondering where to go from here. I have installed 2008 version of the s/w on the phone. Unfortunately without the exact steps you took to get into this situation, we're unable to determine the correct steps to get you out. The most generic answers would be: 1). Reflash with your preferred distribution. 2). Boot from SD Card, access the flash memory and correct your mistake. Although I'm not sure if '2)' is possible as I've never tried. I've only ever come in from the other direction (modify SD from flash). Potentially, if it is simply the x server not starting, you may still be able to ssh in via usb and correct your mistake. I *might* just have the same problem. I tried opkg-upgrading my FDOM (OM2008.9) to testing, and now booting stops with the same messages the original poster has seen, plus the same vor vcs1 and vcsa1. Haven't found a way to fix this, unfortunately, as ssh doesn't seem to be running. The kernel however is still alive, responds to pings and prints out information about the changed power state when plugging in the charger or the usb cable. It's really hard to say. I know first hand that an opkg upgrade to testing can cause this. The original poster was having other issues aswell however. I'd say if your problems aren't intermittent then you may just have a bad upgrade. I'm tempted to think the dropbear problem is back aswell, as I overwrote all config files, the default a while back prevented ssh access except for localhost? or something silly. I remember having to modify the startup script via the om terminal app. Either way, I think using a testing image before opkg upgrading via testing is probably a better option. I haven't tried the FDOM script ... at all ... or FDOM for that matter ... but I imagine it would apply to testing? Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Trying to get support for some Neo setup problems...
Hi John, dowd wrote: I hope someone here can direct me to the correct forum for this. I have a Neo (No SIMM card in it!!) and I had the wifi access to my Access Point all configured. I was trying to configure this to be automated at startup of the Neo and had no problems. Then, I just rebooted the Neo (I had changed something on my Access Point, not the Neo) and the Neo stopped being able to boot successfully. I get the following lines on the screen after it has just stopped booting: [ 204.715000] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcs2 [ 204.72] PM:Removing info for No Bus:vcsa2 Essentially the Neo is now a brick. I'm wondering where to go from here. I have installed 2008 version of the s/w on the phone. Unfortunately without the exact steps you took to get into this situation, we're unable to determine the correct steps to get you out. The most generic answers would be: 1). Reflash with your preferred distribution. 2). Boot from SD Card, access the flash memory and correct your mistake. Although I'm not sure if '2)' is possible as I've never tried. I've only ever come in from the other direction (modify SD from flash). Potentially, if it is simply the x server not starting, you may still be able to ssh in via usb and correct your mistake. Good luck! Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
