Re: shr- GPS howto?
arne anka wrote: - the solution you are pointing to, was only some rough first draft. the kernel patch used eventuially works different. Thank you for the information. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
arne anka wrote: slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem. not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't update your kernel a very long time. the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now, the hw fix is not necessary. Really? The problem was noise from the SDcard electronics disturbing the gps receiver. The software fix was to turn the sdcard clock off while the card isn't actively used. But that don't help at all if the card _is_ in use most of the time - for example if you're running your linux distribution from the card. Or are playing songs stored on the card. Or have your map tiles on the card. The capacitor makes the SDcard less noisy - even when it is being used all the time. I can get a fix and use the gps while listening to music, for example. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Really? The problem was noise from the SDcard electronics disturbing the gps receiver. The software fix was to turn the sdcard clock off while the card isn't actively used. But that don't help at all if the card _is_ in use most of the time - for example if you're running your linux distribution from the card. Or are playing songs stored on the card. Or have your map tiles on the card. The capacitor makes the SDcard less noisy - even when it is being used all the time. I can get a fix and use the gps while listening to music, for example. iirc - the problem was not noise as such but difficulties of coexistence on the sdio - the solution you are pointing to, was only some rough first draft. the kernel patch used eventuially works different. and imo andy wrote some time ago that the sw patch ist better than the hw one ... feel free, to check the archives. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Monday 26 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: arne anka wrote: slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem. not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't update your kernel a very long time. the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now, the hw fix is not necessary. Really? The problem was noise from the SDcard electronics disturbing the gps receiver. The software fix was to turn the sdcard clock off while the card isn't actively used. But that don't help at all if the card _is_ in use most of the time - for example if you're running your linux distribution from the card. Or are playing songs stored on the card. Or have your map tiles on the card. That is only half the software fix. The other half reduces the default drive strength on all the SD signal lines. This is similar in effect to putting a capacitor on all the signal lines, not just the clock line that is affected by the hardware mod. I have no difference in GPS performance if rootfs is in NAND or on SD, and I have no hardware mod. The capacitor makes the SDcard less noisy - even when it is being used all the time. I can get a fix and use the gps while listening to music, for example. So can I, but I don't have the hardware mod ;-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Thanks, arne, Helge, I just made my second try this morning and I got a lock in 35 secs (tried two times, consistent lock time). 8-) I don't know why the different behaviors, but I did the tests inside a party tent I've in the garden and after reading how GPS behaves in weather (rain, cloud, snow makes no perceptible difference), the only thing that comes to my mind is that last time the tent was probably wet or might even had a thin layer of ice (temp was 0ºC). I don't know if it was sufficient to compromise the reception (tent now is dry), but I'll test it again when I get similar conditions. Cheers, Fernando arne anka wrote: slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem. not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't update your kernel a very long time. the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now, the hw fix is not necessary. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
satellites move, that can make a difference On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: Thanks, arne, Helge, I just made my second try this morning and I got a lock in 35 secs (tried two times, consistent lock time). 8-) I don't know why the different behaviors, but I did the tests inside a party tent I've in the garden and after reading how GPS behaves in weather (rain, cloud, snow makes no perceptible difference), the only thing that comes to my mind is that last time the tent was probably wet or might even had a thin layer of ice (temp was 0ºC). I don't know if it was sufficient to compromise the reception (tent now is dry), but I'll test it again when I get similar conditions. Cheers, Fernando arne anka wrote: slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem. not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't update your kernel a very long time. the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now, the hw fix is not necessary. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Fernando Martins wrote: Very nice, thanks. It's indeed working, sort of: - on my SHR image (08.12.16), settings has no option for GPS You are right, of course. These days, no option for turning the gps hardware on or off. Gps is turned on automatically by fso-gpsd, when an app tries to use it. - it took at least 4 minutes to get a fix. Last time, I gave up after 10 min. All tests this evening, same place, tallest buildings almost 100mt away; my house is ~10mt high. Check if you have one of the older freerunners that have problems using gps and SDcard at the same time. Take the sdcard out, and rund from flash. If the gps is better, then that was the problem. You should also be able to see a tiny capacitor between two of the pins under the sdcard slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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slot. If it isn't there, then your phone have this problem. not necessarily. in fact, if you really have this problem you didn't update your kernel a very long time. the gps/sd card fix is in all kernels available for a very long time now, the hw fix is not necessary. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Thanks Hemantha, I could not yet come back to GPS testing but I'll try it. Cheers, Fernando Hemantha Holla M wrote: On 14/01/2009, *Fernando Martins* ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Probably unrelated, but on Om2008.*, I saw this TangoGPS complaint quite often ; this was because somehow 'lo' interface was down and was solved by '/etc/init.d/networking restart' Hemantha Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Hemantha Holla M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
I will suggest to install Zhone, disable autostarting with X and use it's GPS panel to debugging. It's really good... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
Fernando Martins wrote: No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or GPS devices in general): is it supposed to work indoors? Open shr settings (one of the icons) and make sure gps is on there. I don't need any sys/class stuff to use the gps with SHR. SHR image of dec.16 should be ok, one of the earlier ones had gps not working. Also, not all alternative kernels have working gps. Go outside, get away from tall buildings. Start tangogps, stand still. It may take 2 minutes to get a fix with some bad luck. Moving around makes this worse. Tall buildings make this worse. Starting tangogps indoors and then going outside may take more time. So if you look at the map indoors, restart tangogps when you get outside. The gps may or may not work indoors - if you come in from outside. Don't expect the gps to start up indoors though. don't expect gps to work at all in a building with several floors above you. Gps units generally need a stronger signal to start up, then they can follow weaker signals in less than ideal areas. But it won't start up in bad places. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? I remember in original om had an option to turn on/off GPS but I can't find it in SHR. Anyway, I assumed gpsd would take care of it. So, in SHR, how can I check whether GPS is on/off and how to switch it on/off? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: I remember in original om had an option to turn on/off GPS but I can't find it in SHR. Anyway, I assumed gpsd would take care of it. So, in normal gpsd does nothing about freerunner specific power controls. SHR, how can I check whether GPS is on/off and how to switch it on/off? I cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Yes it works just like that. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with Telnet'ed to what port? The gpsd port 2947 should not return NMEA but just reply to one-letter commands: li...@ginger:~$ netcat localhost gpsd p GPSD,P=? d GPSD,D=? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Telnet'ed to what port? The gpsd port 2947 should not return NMEA but just reply to one-letter commands: The 'r' command switches fso-gpsd to raw mode, so it'll give a constant stream of NMEA data as it receives it from ogpsd. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or GPS devices in general): is it supposed to work indoors? Any further suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: shr- GPS howto?
You're unlikely to get a fix indoors, you might be able to get one pressed up against a window, but for best results you should be outside. Fernando Martins wrote: No luck: - I've setup date and timezone; - GPS is on, per /sys/class... incantation - demon fso-gpsd is on, checked with ps - telnet comunicates with gpsd but no good data - tangoGPS doesn't find GPS device I have no idea of the reception capabilities of om (or GPS devices in general): is it supposed to work indoors? Any further suggestions? Thanks for all the help so far, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You don't need to power on the GPS device yourself, FSO will handle this for you when a client requests the GPS resource (and then power it down again when there are no longer any clients using it). You'll get empty data until the device acquires a fix. From what I've read elsewhere it seems important to make sure that your time-zone settings and date/time are correct, as it seems FSO uses these when getting a fix. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: ok, it's the first time I'm looking into this GPS stuff. Following the suggestion from Timo in another post, I do a cat /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron (which is different from his /sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.7/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron, but that's what I found) and that gives me 0. A echoed a 1 to it, but it's the first time a learn about sysfs and I'm not sure this way of setting configuration really works. Anyway, I telneted then to the port but I'm not really familiar with these GPS codes. This seems to be NEMEA data and a quick reading tells me that $GPRMC should give me my coordinates but I'm getting empty stuff $GPRMC,,V,,*31 so something with the device is not working. Also, TangoGPS tells me no GPS found. Any further suggestions from here? Regards, Fernando Michael Sheldon wrote: You can test fso-gpsd by running telnet localhost 2947 then typing r and pressing return. You should the receive GPS data. Cheers, Mike. Fernando Martins wrote: Actually I just thought I had to start manually fso-gpsd (that's what's on the shr wiki page) but as a matter of fact I checked now that it is being actually started at boot time. I'm now trying to figure out how to check whether gps is on/off and how to control it. Thomas des Courières wrote: did you try http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td2104833 ? 2009/1/13 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi mailto:timo.lindf...@iki.fi Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl mailto:ferna...@cmartins.nl writes: receiving no coords. What can I do to test GSP services? 1) is the GPS chip powered on? 2) is there a process that has the serial port for GPS open? 3) is that reading any data? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community