Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Sadly, Apathy has two huge problems:

 1) Python and...
 2) python.

Explanation:
  I don't know enough python to hack it well, and it's butt slow.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:42:48PM +0200, Lukas Märdian wrote:
> Rui,
> maybe you could contact the guys from Apathy [1], and work together.
> I guess they have similar ideas. They are programming a messenger App 
> for FR based on telepathy.
> And they like to add GSM/SMS backends.
> 
> Slyon
> 
> [1] http://www.openapathy.org
> 
> Am 28.09.2009 20:04, schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> >
> >> opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
> >> opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
> >> used.
> >>  
> > BTW, something really cool I just remembered this weekend:
> >
> >integration between telepathy and opim and fso.
> >
> > Think about it:
> >* login == insert SIM automatically (if you wish)
> >* logout == gsm off
> >* buddies == contacts, contacts have phone, sip, xmpp id, whatever
> >
> > I'm interested into reasearching the possibilities. Where is updated
> > info on how to use opim at C api level?
> >
> > Best,
> > Rui
> >
> 
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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Lukas Märdian
Rui,
maybe you could contact the guys from Apathy [1], and work together.
I guess they have similar ideas. They are programming a messenger App 
for FR based on telepathy.
And they like to add GSM/SMS backends.

Slyon

[1] http://www.openapathy.org

Am 28.09.2009 20:04, schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
>
>> opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
>> opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
>> used.
>>  
> BTW, something really cool I just remembered this weekend:
>
>integration between telepathy and opim and fso.
>
> Think about it:
>* login == insert SIM automatically (if you wish)
>* logout == gsm off
>* buddies == contacts, contacts have phone, sip, xmpp id, whatever
>
> I'm interested into reasearching the possibilities. Where is updated
> info on how to use opim at C api level?
>
> Best,
> Rui
>


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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread John Dowd
On Monday 28 September 2009 16:29:17 Marcel wrote:
> They actually mean telepathy as in telepathy, since there's an IM client
> named telepathy they want to use. Of course also for telephony. :)
>
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Oops, then I withdraw my comment. You are still going to get some weirdo's 
accessing the site but then they can be quite entertaining sometimes.

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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Marcel
Am Montag, den 28.09.2009, 16:20 -0400 schrieb John Dowd: 
> On Monday 28 September 2009 16:07:47 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > Renamed to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TelepathyIntegration
> >
> > Rui
> 
> 
> Err... ummm, I don't want to insult anyone but you may want to look up the 
> word you are using. I realize that English is a second language for most of 
> you but to make it easier for people to perform a proper look up, the word 
> you 
> want is "telephony". "Telepathy" is something quite different and will get 
> you 
> all sorts of crackpots accessing you site.

*fat grin*

They actually mean telepathy as in telepathy, since there's an IM client
named telepathy they want to use. Of course also for telephony. :)

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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 04:20:30PM -0400, John Dowd wrote:
> On Monday 28 September 2009 16:07:47 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > Renamed to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TelepathyIntegration
> >
> > Rui
> 
> 
> Err... ummm, I don't want to insult anyone but you may want to look up the 
> word you are using. I realize that English is a second language for most of 
> you but to make it easier for people to perform a proper look up, the word 
> you 
> want is "telephony". "Telepathy" is something quite different and will get 
> you 
> all sorts of crackpots accessing you site.

Please consult http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/

Thanks,
Rui

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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread John Dowd
On Monday 28 September 2009 16:07:47 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> Renamed to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TelepathyIntegration
>
> Rui


Err... ummm, I don't want to insult anyone but you may want to look up the 
word you are using. I realize that English is a second language for most of 
you but to make it easier for people to perform a proper look up, the word you 
want is "telephony". "Telepathy" is something quite different and will get you 
all sorts of crackpots accessing you site.

Cheers!!
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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:53:34PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:14:17PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> > On 9/28/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> > >> opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
> > >> opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
> > >> used.
> > >
> > > BTW, something really cool I just remembered this weekend:
> > >
> > >   integration between telepathy and opim and fso.
> > >
> > > Think about it:
> > >   * login == insert SIM automatically (if you wish)
> > >   * logout == gsm off
> > >   * buddies == contacts, contacts have phone, sip, xmpp id, whatever
> > >
> > > I'm interested into reasearching the possibilities. Where is updated
> > > info on how to use opim at C api level?
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Rui
> > 
> > Dunno about C, but updated dbus reference is on 
> > http://docs.freesmartphone.org/
> > 
> > I hope i'll write some human readable introduction soon, as I know
> > using opimd interface may be unclear at first look (ATM I recommend to
> > look opimd-cli python script from opimd-utils, as well as other
> > scripts from that package)
> 
> So it's all dbus. Good. Do you think this is interesting? I'm starting to
> assemble some ideas at http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Telepathy

Renamed to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TelepathyIntegration

Rui

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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:14:17PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> On 9/28/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> >> opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
> >> opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
> >> used.
> >
> > BTW, something really cool I just remembered this weekend:
> >
> >   integration between telepathy and opim and fso.
> >
> > Think about it:
> >   * login == insert SIM automatically (if you wish)
> >   * logout == gsm off
> >   * buddies == contacts, contacts have phone, sip, xmpp id, whatever
> >
> > I'm interested into reasearching the possibilities. Where is updated
> > info on how to use opim at C api level?
> >
> > Best,
> > Rui
> 
> Dunno about C, but updated dbus reference is on 
> http://docs.freesmartphone.org/
> 
> I hope i'll write some human readable introduction soon, as I know
> using opimd interface may be unclear at first look (ATM I recommend to
> look opimd-cli python script from opimd-utils, as well as other
> scripts from that package)

So it's all dbus. Good. Do you think this is interesting? I'm starting to
assemble some ideas at http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Telepathy

Rui

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Re: Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/28/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
>> opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
>> opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
>> used.
>
> BTW, something really cool I just remembered this weekend:
>
>   integration between telepathy and opim and fso.
>
> Think about it:
>   * login == insert SIM automatically (if you wish)
>   * logout == gsm off
>   * buddies == contacts, contacts have phone, sip, xmpp id, whatever
>
> I'm interested into reasearching the possibilities. Where is updated
> info on how to use opim at C api level?
>
> Best,
> Rui

Dunno about C, but updated dbus reference is on http://docs.freesmartphone.org/

I hope i'll write some human readable introduction soon, as I know
using opimd interface may be unclear at first look (ATM I recommend to
look opimd-cli python script from opimd-utils, as well as other
scripts from that package)

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Integrating telepathy and opim and fso [Was: Revamping Elmphonelog]

2009-09-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 07:55:09PM +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
> opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
> used.

BTW, something really cool I just remembered this weekend:

  integration between telepathy and opim and fso.

Think about it:
  * login == insert SIM automatically (if you wish)
  * logout == gsm off
  * buddies == contacts, contacts have phone, sip, xmpp id, whatever

I'm interested into reasearching the possibilities. Where is updated
info on how to use opim at C api level?

Best,
Rui
  

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Re: Revamping Elmphonelog

2009-09-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/28/09, Bernd Prünster  wrote:
> Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
>> On 9/28/09, Bernd Prünster  wrote:
>>
>>> should not be so hard since only some sql statements and the path to the
>>> sqlite database need to be altered.
>>>
>>
>> It shouldn't be hard, but you're wrong. SHR moved from sqlite file to
>> opimd interface for phone log.
>>
>>
> doesn't opimd use sqlite files to store missed calls etc?
> afaik if one wants to clear history a sqlite file hast to be deleted in
> /etc/freesmartpfone/opim or sth liek that...
> or am i completley wrong?

opimd uses backends. One of them is SQLite-Calls, but noone other than
opimd should read sqlite file directly, as there can be other backens
used.

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Re: Revamping Elmphonelog

2009-09-28 Thread Bernd Prünster
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
> On 9/28/09, Bernd Prünster  wrote:
>   
>> should not be so hard since only some sql statements and the path to the
>> sqlite database need to be altered.
>> 
>
> It shouldn't be hard, but you're wrong. SHR moved from sqlite file to
> opimd interface for phone log.
>
>   
doesn't opimd use sqlite files to store missed calls etc?
afaik if one wants to clear history a sqlite file hast to be deleted in 
/etc/freesmartpfone/opim or sth liek that...
or am i completley wrong?

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Re: Revamping Elmphonelog

2009-09-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/28/09, Bernd Prünster  wrote:
> should not be so hard since only some sql statements and the path to the
> sqlite database need to be altered.

It shouldn't be hard, but you're wrong. SHR moved from sqlite file to
opimd interface for phone log.

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Revamping Elmphonelog

2009-09-28 Thread Bernd Prünster
I have a request:
could the author of elmphonelog please adapt, so that it works on 
current shr builds?
that would be great since elmphonelog is still faster than pyphonelog?

should not be so hard since only some sql statements and the path to the 
sqlite database need to be altered.


i think i am not the only onbe who would appriciate it.

br

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