Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Hi, I am happy with that too - still waiting for my FreeRunner :-) Fisrt I thougt - ohh the CAD files are from commercial tools only, but now, the Schematics are simple PDF files - but good ones. Does anyone plan to make real ECAD project from these schematics - propably with KICAD - a free ECAD tool ? It would be great if also a free ECAD tool would natively supported - if that is allowed :-) If someone is planning, please report. It is propably bad when the work is done twice or more :-) http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Thanks, Lothar Am 08.08.2008 um 18:52 schrieb Kyle Bassett: haha wow...it's been a long time in making, but you guys have finally done it. I really have to commend the entire OM staff for their true dedication! I am seriously contemplating release of my own video entitled, ROFLWS: Rolling on floor laughing, with schematics! And only on this ML could I say something so bizarre as the above, and still get chuckles... good job guys. -Kyle PS- and you never know, ROFLWS might just catch on :-P On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Lothar Behrens |Rapid Prototyping ... Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 |XSLT Codegeneration 73252 Lenningen |www.lollisoft.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
On 2008-08-08 10:00:44 +0800, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Joshua Broussard: Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on page. Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you're complaining about? I think he's able to make some invisible text (e.g., white print on white background) visible by selecting it and concludes that the hidden text is protected by NDA and was not intended to be published. Of course if he's right he should have contacted you privately instead of making cryptic remarks on a public list. hp PS: I can't read any of the text in http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA01/Schematic_1973-GTA01_public_RC0.pdf My acrobat reader complains about the missing font Tahoma. -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Openmoko has already embedded |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | voting system. | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Named If you want it -- write it __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Ilja O. on community@lists.openmoko.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] hp PS: I can't read any of the text in http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA01/Schematic_1973-GTA01_public_RC0.pdf My acrobat reader complains about the missing font Tahoma. -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Openmoko has already embedded |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | voting system. | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Named If you want it -- write it __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Ilja O. on community@lists.openmoko.org I get a similar complaint from my Adobe Reader but about a font named ARMingtiMBIG-5 (BIG-5 sure sounds like some asian font (chinese?)) Antoine PS: you may be able to find a free copy of Tahoma somewhere, google is your friend... I couldn't easily find my missing font though.. (and I already had Tahoma) -- Antoine Reid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
haha wow...it's been a long time in making, but you guys have finally done it. I really have to commend the entire OM staff for their true dedication! I am seriously contemplating release of my own video entitled, ROFLWS: Rolling on floor laughing, with schematics! And only on this ML could I say something so bizarre as the above, and still get chuckles... good job guys. -Kyle PS- and you never know, ROFLWS might just catch on :-P On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics Thank you very much. This is pretty sweet! -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on page. R/ Josh On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Great ;) Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Sean%3A-Please-authorise-the-release-of-GTA01-schematics-tp573676p679653.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you're complaining about? /jOERG Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Joshua Broussard: Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on page. R/ Josh On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Charles Pax: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He asked for GTA01. WE are giving GTA02. I look forward to printing them out and rolling around on them. -Charles keep your video camera steady, Charles! (btw: use A3-format!) We *really* want to see this next week ;-) Maybe you can use the 2 days of this weekend? cheers jOERG :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Charles Pax wrote: On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He asked for GTA01. WE are giving GTA02. I look forward to printing them out and rolling around on them. Be sure to post the video. M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Sean, Now that the FreeRunner is selling like hotcakes, and your hardware and software teams must focus on it to ensure that it succeeds in the market, and the GTA01 Neo1973 is no longer in production or being sold by Openmoko or its distributors, surely it's the perfect time to release the GTA01 hardware schematics? This would send a clear message to the community and the whole mobile ecosystem that Openmoko is a company that doesn't leave it's customers in the lurch when it brings out a replacement product like closed ecosystem companies do, but that Openmoko is a company that wants it's customers to continue to impact the material world with *all* of it's products - past, present and future - for many years into the future. Allow the amateurs to continue to have the distinct advantage over the professionals even years after the professionals have moved onto the next piece of hardware. Imagine a world where new uses for 10 year old Openmoko hardware are still being found, because the schematics for previous generation products are always released when Openmoko ceases to produce or sell that product. Imagine how much wider the impact of Openmoko can be if older products are not thrown in the bin due to lack of information availabe to repair them, but are instead repaired by people in the community or amateur ecosystem and then put back into service to continue to spread the word about the clear advantage that open source has over the closed ecosystem. Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Watch this space. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Whitby Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:07 PM To: Sean Moss-Pultz Cc: OpenMoko Subject: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics Sean, Now that the FreeRunner is selling like hotcakes, and your hardware and software teams must focus on it to ensure that it succeeds in the market, and the GTA01 Neo1973 is no longer in production or being sold by Openmoko or its distributors, surely it's the perfect time to release the GTA01 hardware schematics? This would send a clear message to the community and the whole mobile ecosystem that Openmoko is a company that doesn't leave it's customers in the lurch when it brings out a replacement product like closed ecosystem companies do, but that Openmoko is a company that wants it's customers to continue to impact the material world with *all* of it's products - past, present and future - for many years into the future. Allow the amateurs to continue to have the distinct advantage over the professionals even years after the professionals have moved onto the next piece of hardware. Imagine a world where new uses for 10 year old Openmoko hardware are still being found, because the schematics for previous generation products are always released when Openmoko ceases to produce or sell that product. Imagine how much wider the impact of Openmoko can be if older products are not thrown in the bin due to lack of information availabe to repair them, but are instead repaired by people in the community or amateur ecosystem and then put back into service to continue to spread the word about the clear advantage that open source has over the closed ecosystem. Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
Oh, I already responded to him. With a TEASE. Watch this space He asked for GTA01. WE are giving GTA02. So I would let people thnk that we are releasing GTA01 schmatics and then Shck them with A02. Easy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Whitby Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:07 PM To: Sean Moss-Pultz Cc: OpenMoko Subject: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics Sean, Now that the FreeRunner is selling like hotcakes, and your hardware and software teams must focus on it to ensure that it succeeds in the market, and the GTA01 Neo1973 is no longer in production or being sold by Openmoko or its distributors, surely it's the perfect time to release the GTA01 hardware schematics? This would send a clear message to the community and the whole mobile ecosystem that Openmoko is a company that doesn't leave it's customers in the lurch when it brings out a replacement product like closed ecosystem companies do, but that Openmoko is a company that wants it's customers to continue to impact the material world with *all* of it's products - past, present and future - for many years into the future. Allow the amateurs to continue to have the distinct advantage over the professionals even years after the professionals have moved onto the next piece of hardware. Imagine a world where new uses for 10 year old Openmoko hardware are still being found, because the schematics for previous generation products are always released when Openmoko ceases to produce or sell that product. Imagine how much wider the impact of Openmoko can be if older products are not thrown in the bin due to lack of information availabe to repair them, but are instead repaired by people in the community or amateur ecosystem and then put back into service to continue to spread the word about the clear advantage that open source has over the closed ecosystem. Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
There you go, folks. The schematics will be released give us time. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of steve Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 8:24 PM To: 'List for Openmoko community discussion' Subject: RE: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics Oh, I already responded to him. With a TEASE. Watch this space He asked for GTA01. WE are giving GTA02. So I would let people thnk that we are releasing GTA01 schmatics and then Shck them with A02. Easy. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rod Whitby Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 7:07 PM To: Sean Moss-Pultz Cc: OpenMoko Subject: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics Sean, Now that the FreeRunner is selling like hotcakes, and your hardware and software teams must focus on it to ensure that it succeeds in the market, and the GTA01 Neo1973 is no longer in production or being sold by Openmoko or its distributors, surely it's the perfect time to release the GTA01 hardware schematics? This would send a clear message to the community and the whole mobile ecosystem that Openmoko is a company that doesn't leave it's customers in the lurch when it brings out a replacement product like closed ecosystem companies do, but that Openmoko is a company that wants it's customers to continue to impact the material world with *all* of it's products - past, present and future - for many years into the future. Allow the amateurs to continue to have the distinct advantage over the professionals even years after the professionals have moved onto the next piece of hardware. Imagine a world where new uses for 10 year old Openmoko hardware are still being found, because the schematics for previous generation products are always released when Openmoko ceases to produce or sell that product. Imagine how much wider the impact of Openmoko can be if older products are not thrown in the bin due to lack of information availabe to repair them, but are instead repaired by people in the community or amateur ecosystem and then put back into service to continue to spread the word about the clear advantage that open source has over the closed ecosystem. Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He asked for GTA01. WE are giving GTA02. I look forward to printing them out and rolling around on them. -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
