Re: Some debian questions
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hmm... Indeed a problem. Maybe there could be a function to activate/deactivate the given rule, and have it parsed if activated. Is the rules manager that flexible yet? Maybe you can point me in the right direction there and I could come up with a patch for that :) Let me know your thoughts. I think we need to rethink the policy of the profile / rule interaction. Maybe a rule should have a special attribute that specify the profiles that activate it, or just rely on the rule filter for that and we don't use the rules configuration file at all. An other way : we could make the rule actual DBus object, with a DBus path. So the preferences can still refer to the rules by there name, and a client that create a new rule can refer to it by its DBus path. Cheers, Guillaume/Charlie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 19:29 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Hi Charlie, I have just added a skeleton for org.freesmartphone.Events in the specs repository, please fill it with some docs when you have a chance. Thanks Mickey, I started to fill it. Of course the oeventsd API is very small. I also stared the opimd spec documentation. Cheers, Charlie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
Am Wednesday 29 October 2008 04:21:01 schrieb Guillaume Chereau: You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. Hi Charlie, I have just added a skeleton for org.freesmartphone.Events in the specs repository, please fill it with some docs when you have a chance. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opreferences rules (was Re: Some debian questions)
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 01:06 +0100, Luca Capello wrote: Hi there! Please continue this discussion on the smartphones-standards mailing list [1], I think it belongs there and I set R-T and M-F-T accordingly. On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 04:21:01 +0100, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) The Debian FSO Team [2] mainly uses the smartphones-* mailing lists [1] for discussions, please direct your questions there whenever you develop on Debian and/or for Debian. Yes, but the first part of my message was more about the framework than Debian. We're not looking for a Debian specific way of adding rules, but a general one, which Debian could use. But agreed, the second point probably belongs to the other list, but that is not my priority right now. Not going to reboot the FR every day :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) Is there any already-coded program that do that? Something like update-frameworkd-rules, for the end-user. That would be interesting to do as an addition to the framework functions. The program could be a python script accessing the framework over D-BUS for adding/deleting/activating rules. the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. Is there a way to know which rules are available? IMHO the above update-frameworkd-rules should have a --show/--list option for that (this reminds me of `git config` [3]...). +1, but maybe this is already implemented in the framework. I haven't had time to test the rules interface yet, but I will do as soon as I can. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0]) So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that is not very good and we need to solve this problem. The whole story above led me thinking about how Debian should manage these rules. The main problem here is that Debian must ship a working setup, which at the same time should be configurable through Debian packages, as I explained at [4]. The above program you've mentioned would come in handy there. :) Cheers, Benedikt What's upstream plan? Having one unique rules file or splitting the configuration into single and more specific ones? Something like sounds.yaml (ring- and message-tones plus volumes), etc.? Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca [0] : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD [1] http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Infrastructure#Mailing_Lists [2] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/DebianFSO [3] http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-config.html [4] http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2008-October/000327.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 11:21 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. Wow... That was quick! :) I'll check this out tonight! Thanks a lot. BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0]) So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that is not very good and we need to solve this problem. Hmm... Indeed a problem. Maybe there could be a function to activate/deactivate the given rule, and have it parsed if activated. Is the rules manager that flexible yet? Maybe you can point me in the right direction there and I could come up with a patch for that :) Let me know your thoughts. Cheers, Benedikt cheers, Guillaume [0] : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Some debian questions
Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? 2) I now have nice text scrolling by on boot, which is fine. However, I'd like to have a splash screen for my non-tech friends :). I've already installed splashy, however, it fails to use /dev/fb0. However, the file seems to be there and according to dmesg a FB driver is loaded. I've also modified my u-boot environment to add splash and vga=317 to the kernel command line, however it still doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? Are there special parameters or so to activate this? I see this with both mwester's last kernel and the OM2008.9 latest kernel (which seems to have a splash?). Thanks to all, - Benedikt www.relamp.tk This e-mail is digitally signed by a PGP key, to verify it's authenticity. If you received this e-mail without key the e-mail may not be authentic. The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged and confidential information. It is intended only for the use of the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. To reply to our e-mail administrator directly, please send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. - Guillaume/Charlie signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some debian questions
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 10:29 +0800, Guillaume Chereau wrote: On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 14:51 +0100, Benedikt Bär wrote: Hi all, I am currently setting up a debian system on my FreeRunner, but I have some questions. :) 1) I'm writing some python programs to interact with the FSO framework. I have seen there's now support for a rules file, which seems quite a nice idea. Now, I would like to be able to modify these rules via my program. That way, for example, I could set a screen blanking / suspend timeout but my program wouldn't have to listen to events. It would automatically be done by the framework. Is this possible? If not, any plans to implement something like a D-BUS interface for modifying rules? You can already add new rules using the dbus call : org.freesmartphone.Events.AddRule(s) the string should be in the same format than the rules in the rules file. For the way to modify rules, it is planned. Rules can have name (using 'name' attribute in the rules file.) I will take some time today to add a RemoveRule, so that you can add and remove rules. Ok I added the RemoveRule method to oeventsd, you can check oevents.py in the framework tests directory to see how to add and remove rules. BUT, it makes me realize a problem : the rules manager only activates the rules that are specified in the rules preference file (e.g [0]) So if you add a new rule with a name, the rule won't be activated unless you also specify that the rule is activated in the preference file. that is not very good and we need to solve this problem. cheers, Guillaume [0] : http://git.freesmartphone.org/?p=framework.git;a=blob;f=etc/freesmartphone/opreferences/conf/rules/default.yaml;h=e0066eff76973b5597d879bf81b0e0f490660bdb;hb=HEAD signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
