Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
On 11 Sep 2008, at 14:17, Kostis Anagnostopoulos wrote: On Thu 11 Sep 2008 01:31:27 Didier Raboud wrote: nickd wrote: Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... I don't like Dasher because it introduces uncontrolled waiting states, in order for the target letter to reach the center. Surely the waiting state is controlled - by moving the cursor to the right (I imagine tilting the Freerunner) the stream of letters speeds up. On Dasher's site they make a comparison with car-driving. I think that if we were given the chance, we would preffere a click-to-destination instead of a steering- wheel car-UI. At some point analogies always break - probably as soon as you start using them to expand outside anything that the original analogiser had in mind. ;) The destination is the completed sentence of words. It is held initially inside your mind, and it is impossible to give the target device this destination without any intervening steps. Just as we don't yet have autonomous automobiles, either, a steering-wheel (or some other control device) is clearly necessary to get the words out of your head into the device. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
On Fri 12 Sep 2008 15:42:31 Stroller wrote: On 11 Sep 2008, at 14:17, Kostis Anagnostopoulos wrote: On Thu 11 Sep 2008 01:31:27 Didier Raboud wrote: nickd wrote: Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... I don't like Dasher because it introduces uncontrolled waiting states, in order for the target letter to reach the center. Surely the waiting state is controlled - by moving the cursor to the right (I imagine tilting the Freerunner) the stream of letters speeds up. Yet, sometimes you just have to slowdown untill the needed letter appears. In any way, it is not the same as a deterministic action under your controll, lets say, i move from point a to point b, and it would take me as much time as i like! Thats what i meant with uncontrollable, i din't mean totally-out-of-my-controll. On Dasher's site they make a comparison with car-driving. I think that if we were given the chance, we would preffere a click-to-destination instead of a steering- wheel car-UI. At some point analogies always break - probably as soon as you start using them to expand outside anything that the original analogiser had in mind. ;) The destination is the completed sentence of words. It is held initially inside your mind, and it is impossible to give the target device this destination without any intervening steps. Just as we don't yet have autonomous automobiles, either, a steering-wheel (or some other control device) is clearly necessary to get the words out of your head into the device. Wel, the target for me is the letters-of-a-world, not the world, so from this point of view, yes click or signature-like typing is more like controlling a variable but a steering wheel is like controlling the derivative of that variable. Hence the wait-states! I need to say that, concerning mobile devices, i had try to envision such a input-method myself, and the Dasher is as close as it gets to what i might had end up with. My kudos to the programmers and designers of Dasher. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
2008/9/11 Didier Raboud [EMAIL PROTECTED]: nickd wrote: http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick But proprietary... Unix being proprietary did not stop Linux. I figure they use some basic reinforcement learning techniques... No need to have a look at their code to do the same as they do. Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
On Thu 11 Sep 2008 01:31:27 Didier Raboud wrote: nickd wrote: Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... I don't like Dasher because it introduces uncontrolled waiting states, in order for the target letter to reach the center. I get the same feeling when i'm told that in order to disable the QTopia keyboard's auto-complete, i need to wait 2secs on the same letter... On Dasher's site they make a comparison with car-driving. I think that if we were given the chance, we would preffere a click-to-destination instead of a steering-wheel car-UI. Yet, a GPL software always deserves respect, Regards, Kostis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Swype - Jaw dropping fast and accurate entry of text via touch screen [w/video]
nickd wrote: http://cnettv.cnet.com/9742-1_53-50003669.html This would be awesome. -Nick But proprietary... Take a look at the other method previously pointed by Dan : http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ It's GPL... Regards, OdyX -- Swisslinux.org − Le carrefour GNU/Linux en Suisse − http://www.swisslinux.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
