Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-08 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 12:00 AM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> So after using it for a while I can say that I'm impressed.
>
> When I first saw tichy on FSO distribution it was slow and I thought
> nothing would come out of it.
> Thanks for proving me wrong!
> I like it's distribution independent approach - It has it's own
> keyboard and graphical toolkit - must be a lot of work!
>
> The only thing is that while in fullscreen mode you can run nothing
> except for tichy.  I didn't find a way to switch between full screen
> mode and normal one.
>
> Also, can you add easier case change for the keyboard? Ruight now if I
> wan to write uppercase I have to go through all keyboard to get back
> to small letters.
>
> But in overall I like it, and I see that it has made a lot of progress.

Thanks ! you just encouraged me to work on the next release of tichy.
Starting other applications from tichy is indeed a problem, but there
is an experimental applet -contribution from Michael "Goodwill"-  that
allow to do that. I want to improve this for the next release.

There is currently no way to switch between fullscreen and normal
mode, I will try to implement this, shouldn't be a problem.

The keyboard needs a lot of work too, it is still too slow (I have
some idea why), and as you say, not very good for switching modes.

btw : for some reason, tichy is faster on debian. I think this is
because the ipkg I did didn't compile the C file with optimisation on.
I will also try to solve this.

All in all, that would roughly be my TODO list for next release :
* Redo the Service system (it is too slow and complicated right now.)
* Improve the user interface code (too slow as well, and a little bit messy.)
* Add a GTK backend (that is working already, I just need to make it
easy to configure)
* If possible, improve the keyboard.
* Being able to start external applications.
* Start to work on tests suits, using py.test [0] module.

As I said, I can't really predict how much time I will have to work on
it, so I prefer not to give any date for the next release.

Thanks again for your inputs !

cheers,
Guillaume

[0] http://codespeak.net/py/dist/test.html

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-08 Thread Leonti Bielski
So after using it for a while I can say that I'm impressed.

When I first saw tichy on FSO distribution it was slow and I thought
nothing would come out of it.
Thanks for proving me wrong!
I like it's distribution independent approach - It has it's own
keyboard and graphical toolkit - must be a lot of work!

The only thing is that while in fullscreen mode you can run nothing
except for tichy.  I didn't find a way to switch between full screen
mode and normal one.

Also, can you add easier case change for the keyboard? Ruight now if I
wan to write uppercase I have to go through all keyboard to get back
to small letters.

But in overall I like it, and I see that it has made a lot of progress.

Leonti

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Thanks, it's working now!
>
> Leonti
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, arne anka  wrote:
>> seems pretty clear to me:
>>
>> pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared
>> object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> look for a package providing  libpng.so.3 and install it.
>>
>> ___
>> Openmoko community mailing list
>> community@lists.openmoko.org
>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>>
>

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-07 Thread Leonti Bielski
Thanks, it's working now!

Leonti

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 2:32 PM, arne anka  wrote:
> seems pretty clear to me:
>
> pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared
> object file: No such file or directory
>
> look for a package providing  libpng.so.3 and install it.
>
> ___
> Openmoko community mailing list
> community@lists.openmoko.org
> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-07 Thread arne anka
seems pretty clear to me:

pygame.error: Failed loading libpng.so.3: libpng.so.3: cannot open shared  
object file: No such file or directory

look for a package providing  libpng.so.3 and install it.

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-07 Thread Leonti Bielski
This is the output:

http://pastebin.com/m312df0f9

Leonti

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Guillaume Chereau  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
>> Hello!
>> Thanks for your work!
>> I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :(
> Can you try to start it form command line :
>   export DISPLAY=:0
>   tichy
> and send me the output.
>
> - gui
>
> ___
> Openmoko community mailing list
> community@lists.openmoko.org
> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-06 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Hello!
> Thanks for your work!
> I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :(
Can you try to start it form command line :
   export DISPLAY=:0
   tichy
and send me the output.

- gui

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Re: Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-06 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello!
Thanks for your work!
I have a problem - when I start tichy it gives me just black screen :(

I had some of the packages installed from anstrom repository, so it
might be a problem. But as I remember from previous tries - I had
black screen too. Is it treatable?

Tomorrow I will try to install it on clean and fresh SHR distro and
see what it gives me.

Leonti

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Guillaume Chereau  wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> (Some of you may know me from my previous openmoko address :
> char...@openmoko.org)
>
> Since I don't work for openmoko anymore, and since I had some free
> time in my hands recently, I restarted the tichy project (previously
> hosted on openmoko public git)
> The project is now hosted on google code [0]. From the web site we can
> see some screenshots.
>
> For the history, tichy is the project that was used as the base for
> the paroli project [1], officially supported by openmoko.  Both
> projects are python frameworks to write applets for openmoko phones. I
> decide to restart tichy because in my opinion paroli has forked too
> much, and now both projects are having very different goals.
>
> So why I think people should give tichy a try :
>
> * It can run on debian, SHR, and FSO (even thouhg there is currently a
> problem with the installation on FSO)
> * it is using the Dbus framework for all the phone applets.
> * It is very simple to modify it, almost everything is written in
> python, with some small parts in cython.
> * It can run on the desktop as well.
> * There is a release (1.0.0) [2]
>
> The first release 1.0.0 [2] contains the source package, a debian
> packages, and an ipkg package that can be installed on SHR (should
> also work on FSO, but I see that python-pygame package is currently
> missing from the FSO feeds.)
>
> I will keep working on the project if I think there are interested
> people. I don't know how much time I will allocate to this, so I can
> make no statement about plans or future releases. Of course
> contributions are welcomes.
> I have to admit I didn't test it so much (I personally only use it for
> the chinese learning and dictionary applets), if people experience any
> problems, please let me know and I'll make a bug fix release.
>
> I would also be interested to know if the SHR, debian, or FSO people
> are interested for a collaboration to add tichy in there
> distributions.
>
> Happy programming,
> Guillaume
>
> [0] http://code.google.com/p/tichy
> [1] http://www.paroli-project.org/
> [2] http://tichy.googlecode.com/svn/release/1.0.0/
> --
> http://charlie137.blogspot.com/
>
> ___
> Openmoko community mailing list
> community@lists.openmoko.org
> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
>

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community


Tichy now hosted on google code + release 1.0.0

2009-04-06 Thread Guillaume Chereau
Hello all,

(Some of you may know me from my previous openmoko address :
char...@openmoko.org)

Since I don't work for openmoko anymore, and since I had some free
time in my hands recently, I restarted the tichy project (previously
hosted on openmoko public git)
The project is now hosted on google code [0]. From the web site we can
see some screenshots.

For the history, tichy is the project that was used as the base for
the paroli project [1], officially supported by openmoko.  Both
projects are python frameworks to write applets for openmoko phones. I
decide to restart tichy because in my opinion paroli has forked too
much, and now both projects are having very different goals.

So why I think people should give tichy a try :

* It can run on debian, SHR, and FSO (even thouhg there is currently a
problem with the installation on FSO)
* it is using the Dbus framework for all the phone applets.
* It is very simple to modify it, almost everything is written in
python, with some small parts in cython.
* It can run on the desktop as well.
* There is a release (1.0.0) [2]

The first release 1.0.0 [2] contains the source package, a debian
packages, and an ipkg package that can be installed on SHR (should
also work on FSO, but I see that python-pygame package is currently
missing from the FSO feeds.)

I will keep working on the project if I think there are interested
people. I don't know how much time I will allocate to this, so I can
make no statement about plans or future releases. Of course
contributions are welcomes.
I have to admit I didn't test it so much (I personally only use it for
the chinese learning and dictionary applets), if people experience any
problems, please let me know and I'll make a bug fix release.

I would also be interested to know if the SHR, debian, or FSO people
are interested for a collaboration to add tichy in there
distributions.

Happy programming,
Guillaume

[0] http://code.google.com/p/tichy
[1] http://www.paroli-project.org/
[2] http://tichy.googlecode.com/svn/release/1.0.0/
-- 
http://charlie137.blogspot.com/

___
Openmoko community mailing list
community@lists.openmoko.org
http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community