Re: Video of production device?

2008-05-25 Thread Philipp Hannasky

Vinc Duran schrieb:

Hello,
I'm going to be very demanding again :-)
Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
video?

It would be great if Ian or someone with a production unit could video
typical usage of the three main ready applications. Dialer, contacts,
and sms if I remember.

Thanks

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http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tyfhwVX_8BQ Media Player
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=rcgK2WcrT2g Aux und Power Button
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=eTsefRx1Xl8 Terminal
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=bqwd_iEeFwU Contacts
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=T8JB0q3H5Wk Boot

This Videos were posted in the German Openmoko-Forum: 
http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=14t=123


There Einstein got a Production Devivce to test. Thereare also some 
Pictures an Screenshots.


Philipp

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Re: Video of production device?

2008-05-25 Thread Vinc Duran
Thank you very much Philipp. That's just what I was hoping for.
Vinc

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 6:47 AM, Philipp Hannasky
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vinc Duran schrieb:

 Hello,
 I'm going to be very demanding again :-)
 Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
 http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
 Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
 video?

 It would be great if Ian or someone with a production unit could video
 typical usage of the three main ready applications. Dialer, contacts,
 and sms if I remember.

 Thanks

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 http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=tyfhwVX_8BQ Media Player
 http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=rcgK2WcrT2g Aux und Power Button
 http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=eTsefRx1Xl8 Terminal
 http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=bqwd_iEeFwU Contacts
 http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=T8JB0q3H5Wk Boot

 This Videos were posted in the German Openmoko-Forum:
 http://freeyourphone.de/portal_v1/viewtopic.php?f=14t=123

 There Einstein got a Production Devivce to test. Thereare also some
 Pictures an Screenshots.

 Philipp

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Re[2]: Video of production device?

2008-05-24 Thread t3st3r

-Original Message-
From: Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:51:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Video of production device?

  Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
  http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
  Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
  video?
If someone cares I dislike such UI.Even on video playback it can be seen that 
sometimes some sliding effects are somewhat slow.And, what is slightly worse, 
UI has too few items per screen and over-uses this nasty sliding.So on this 
video I can see just a permanent nasty scrolling and sliding.IMHO such UI is 
neither well optimized for stilus- or finger-driven UI nor comfortable in sense 
that there should be as few levels of nested menus as possible.From video it 
looks like dealing with such menu system is a real PITA.Sliding is great effect 
and looks great and I like it.If it's not overused as here in this example.

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Re: Re[2]: Video of production device?

2008-05-24 Thread Kevin Dean
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:04 PM, t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:51:00 -0600
 Subject: Re: Video of production device?

  Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
  http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
  Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
  video?
 If someone cares I dislike such UI.Even on video playback it can be seen that 
 sometimes some sliding effects are somewhat slow.And, what is slightly worse, 
 UI has too few items per screen and over-uses this nasty sliding.So on this 
 video I can see just a permanent nasty scrolling and sliding.IMHO such UI is 
 neither well optimized for stilus- or finger-driven UI nor comfortable in 
 sense that there should be as few levels of nested menus as possible.

It's actually well optimized for the stylus and finger. Openmoko's
2007.2 stack is HORRIBLE for finger based usage, and while Qtopia is a
bit better, it's still pretty bad. The ASU makes selection (via
sliding) easy. Text is also pretty big and easy to select.

From video it looks like dealing with such menu system is a real PITA.

Much easier than hitting a tiny square with my finger.

Sliding is great effect and looks great and I like it.If it's not overused as 
here in this example.

You can still use the icon based app selection screen (ala Qtopia or
iPhone) and is infact the default. Illume is shown off because it's
actually creative.


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Video of production device?

2008-05-23 Thread Vinc Duran
Hello,
I'm going to be very demanding again :-)
Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
video?

It would be great if Ian or someone with a production unit could video
typical usage of the three main ready applications. Dialer, contacts,
and sms if I remember.

Thanks

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Re: Video of production device?

2008-05-23 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Vinc Duran wrote:

Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
video?


That's a video about a first Illume implementation by Rasterman, it has 
been posted on illume project page [1] some months ago.



It would be great if Ian or someone with a production unit could video
typical usage of the three main ready applications. Dialer, contacts,
and sms if I remember.


I agree!
Anwyway also few screenshots on scap.linuxtogo.org would be enough for 
me :P.



[1] http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/

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Re: Video of production device?

2008-05-23 Thread Vinc Duran
Thanks Kevin and Marco,
Hey Kevin, my vote would be for the bad video. I'm looking for a video
to show someone who is undecided about being in our group purchase.
Thanks

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Kevin Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:08 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Vinc Duran wrote:

 Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
 http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
 Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a concept
 video?

 That's a video about a first Illume implementation by Rasterman, it has been
 posted on illume project page [1] some months ago.

 Illume works. It's real code that you can download and compile
 yourself. ;) There have been changes, of course, and the real thing
 doesn't appear as polished as that video does but this is still
 relatively new in terms of being functional.


 It would be great if Ian or someone with a production unit could video
 typical usage of the three main ready applications. Dialer, contacts,
 and sms if I remember.

 I agree!
 Anwyway also few screenshots on scap.linuxtogo.org would be enough for me
 :P.

 I poked around briefly yesterday and didn't see a way in ASU to take
 screenshots. (I did discover one of my neighbors has an unsecured wifi
 access point) so for the time being I'll have to either make bad
 quality video or find out what screenshot app is on the 2007.2 images
 and install that.



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