Re: Visit at Openmoko

[The Rasterman]

On Tue, 26 May 2009 11:03:15 -0500 Kosa  said:

tnx :) (as they say...)

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> >>
> >> Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> > 
> > Um.. We are very much alive and well -- That's official.
> > Thanks for caring.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > 
> > Will (I work here)
> 
> According to the wiki, you and Sean are the only ones who still work
> there, but you are right, you are alive :)
> 
> I forgot to mention Andy, the Rasterman, Harald, Mickey, Carsten,
> Werner, Harry, Mirko, Graeme, Zecke and some others, so thanks to you
> too. You did a great work.
> 
> Kosa
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[roguemoko]

On 26/05/2009 5:38 AM, Werner Almesberger wrote:
> Sven Klomp wrote:
>> When I arrived, the whole office was empty. [...]
>
> I'd say your timing was perfect. Your eyes did not betray you, but
> it's still too early to draw too many conclusions from what you saw.

I have to admit it's a little funny that the one customer who bothers to 
rock up, does so right at the 'perfect' time :)

People, this project has always been fueled by passion, I doubt any of 
the effects are anything other than long term. Just keep doing what you 
are doing, nothing is going to change over night. You should know that 
by now ;)

Sarton

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Michal Brzozowski]

I always thought that people being laid off is a sign that the company is
trying to stay in business. A sign of a company going down is (where I come
from) sad gentlemen coming to the office and taking out the computers.

Speculating in this thread is not really helping them at the moment, so just
stop it.

Michal.


2009/5/26 Sam Kuper 

> 2009/5/26 William Lai 
>
>> No, I was not being sarcastic.  People were saying their 'thank you
>> goodbyes' so I wanted to clarify that we are still here, and there is lots
>> of work to do.
>>
>> I do not know Sven and I never saw him in the office, but he has every
>> right to interpret and share what he heard.  Yes, there were layoffs.  There
>> are just enough people remaining to keep things going (literally) and Sean
>> chose to do so over shutting everything down.  Please try to see things from
>> that perspective instead of siding with the more negative aspects.
>>  Tomorrow, what remains of us, will go to work and continue to deliver solid
>> FR hardware, provide re-work solutions and run servers for our customers.
>>  If you feel that is not enough than please jump in and get your hands
>> dirty.  The idea of an open phone started out as a revolution -- now pick up
>> your sticks and fight if you want it to happen.
>
>
> Hurrah! *That's* the spirit!
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Sam Kuper]

2009/5/26 William Lai 

> No, I was not being sarcastic.  People were saying their 'thank you
> goodbyes' so I wanted to clarify that we are still here, and there is lots
> of work to do.
>
> I do not know Sven and I never saw him in the office, but he has every
> right to interpret and share what he heard.  Yes, there were layoffs.  There
> are just enough people remaining to keep things going (literally) and Sean
> chose to do so over shutting everything down.  Please try to see things from
> that perspective instead of siding with the more negative aspects.
>  Tomorrow, what remains of us, will go to work and continue to deliver solid
> FR hardware, provide re-work solutions and run servers for our customers.
>  If you feel that is not enough than please jump in and get your hands
> dirty.  The idea of an open phone started out as a revolution -- now pick up
> your sticks and fight if you want it to happen.


Hurrah! *That's* the spirit!
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[William Lai]

No, I was not being sarcastic.  People were saying their 'thank you goodbyes' 
so I wanted to clarify that we are still here, and there is lots of work to do. 
 

I do not know Sven and I never saw him in the office, but he has every right to 
interpret and share what he heard.  Yes, there were layoffs.  There are just 
enough people remaining to keep things going (literally) and Sean chose to do 
so over shutting everything down.  Please try to see things from that 
perspective instead of siding with the more negative aspects.  Tomorrow, what 
remains of us, will go to work and continue to deliver solid FR hardware, 
provide re-work solutions and run servers for our customers.  If you feel that 
is not enough than please jump in and get your hands dirty.  The idea of an 
open phone started out as a revolution -- now pick up your sticks and fight if 
you want it to happen. 

Thanks,
Will 



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Subject: Re: Visit at Openmoko

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 05:38:48PM +0200, Andreas Fischer wrote:
> Michael Fisher wrote:
> 
> > hmmm, let's see here whom should I believe? A customer/user observing an
> > empty office and talk of a layoff or waiting for the company to come up
> > with the 'correct' words to describe the situation in order to lead us
> > further into a big empty hole?
> 
> Since OM didn't yet reply officially, there is nothing to "believe". So
> the question is rather: Do you believe a customer observing a situation
> out of context without hearing the other side first?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who

It seems to be down to the CEO, a Design Manager and a Hardware Manager.

Either the company had lots of MIA in the Who_is_Who page, or right now
they may not have enough time to present their side :(

Rui

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Damian Spriggs]

Wow. So we have rumors of mass layoffs, a semi-official "Wait for the  
official announcement" announcement, and mass panic. This can only  
mean one thing:
OM has been bought out by Microsoft for 2 copies of MS Bob and a case  
of Pocky. You heard it here first!
*grin*

On May 26, 2009, at 1:00 PM, Steve Mosher wrote:

> Thanks,
>
>   As you can well imagine Sean and I are working on an official
> statement. This time around a lot
>   more is involved than just us writing post so please be patient.  
> This
> week is pretty hectic for me
>  and Sean, I'm travelling out of town today ( SF) and then I'll be  
> back
> for an Android conference on
>  wensday and thursday.
>
> Steve


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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Steve Mosher]

 Thanks,

   As you can well imagine Sean and I are working on an official 
statement. This time around a lot
   more is involved than just us writing post so please be patient. This 
week is pretty hectic for me
  and Sean, I'm travelling out of town today ( SF) and then I'll be back 
for an Android conference on
  wensday and thursday.

Steve

Vasco Névoa wrote:
> Hey, take it easy, stop going berserk, and wait for the announcement.
> They will talk to us when they're good and ready, so save your energy for 
> then, and stop raising confusion.
> Be civilised. Be smart. Be silent (until necessary).
>
> Citando Moko Mania : 
>
>   
>> "we are very much alive and well -- That's official. Thanks for caring"   is 
>> this MokoSarcasm? According to Whoiswho on the wiki almost everybody got 
>> laid off. Is the design team behind the layoffs? Are you part of the design 
>> team that took our raster already? If it's true then there is no more kernel 
>> support, no more software releases. How about customer support?   Who is 
>> alive and well? The design team that cannot even design a simple functioning 
>> phone UI? Is your statement the only official statement we will hear for how 
>> long? Please don't tell me that everybody who ever did anything good for the 
>> community was fired.
>> 
>
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Sam Kuper]

2009/5/26 Stephen LePage 
>> i'm just a mailiing list lurker who is getting annoyed with the
>> "Openmoko is going out of business!!111" that seems to
>> happen monthly, and untill something is proven, i believe
>> we shouldn't start panicking

+1 :)

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Stephen LePage]

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Nicola Mfb  wrote:

> 2009/5/26 Stephen LePage :
> [...]
> > Unless i'm looking at the wiki history wrong, it seems that a majority of
> > those "left openmoko"  were added by one user on may 25th who's only
> > contribution was that one change. In fact I have reverted it to the
> previous
> > version, untill someone provides more solid information in regards to who
> is
> > still left.
>
> >Oh! and the revert was the only contribution from you... nice :)
>
>     Nicola
> touché, i'm just a mailiing list lurker who is getting annoyed with the
> "Openmoko is going out of business!!111" that seems to happen monthly, and
> untill something is proven, i believe we shouldn't start 
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Nicola Mfb]

2009/5/26 Stephen LePage :
[...]
> Unless i'm looking at the wiki history wrong, it seems that a majority of
> those "left openmoko"  were added by one user on may 25th who's only
> contribution was that one change. In fact I have reverted it to the previous
> version, untill someone provides more solid information in regards to who is
> still left.

Oh! and the revert was the only contribution from you... nice :)

 Nicola

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Stephen LePage]

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:03 PM, Kosa  wrote:

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> William Lai escribió:
> > Kosa wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >
> > Um.. We are very much alive and well -- That's official.
> > Thanks for caring.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Will (I work here)
>
> >According to the wiki, you and Sean are the only ones who still work
> >there, but you are right, you are alive :)
> >
> >I forgot to mention Andy, the Rasterman, Harald, Mickey, Carsten,
> >Werner, Harry, Mirko, Graeme, Zecke and some others, so thanks to you
> >too. You did a great work.
>
> >Kosa
>
>
> Unless i'm looking at the wiki history wrong, it seems that a majority of
those "left openmoko"  were added by one user on may 25th who's only
contribution was that one change. In fact I have reverted it to the previous
version, untill someone provides more solid information in regards to who is
still left.

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Andreas Fischer]

Michael Fisher wrote:

> hmmm, let's see here whom should I believe? A customer/user observing an
> empty office and talk of a layoff or waiting for the company to come up
> with the 'correct' words to describe the situation in order to lead us
> further into a big empty hole?

Since OM didn't yet reply officially, there is nothing to "believe". So
the question is rather: Do you believe a customer observing a situation
out of context without hearing the other side first?

Regards,
Andreas Fischer

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Kosa]

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William Lai escribió:
> Kosa wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
>> Thanks.
>>
> 
> Um.. We are very much alive and well -- That's official.
> Thanks for caring.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Will (I work here)

According to the wiki, you and Sean are the only ones who still work
there, but you are right, you are alive :)

I forgot to mention Andy, the Rasterman, Harald, Mickey, Carsten,
Werner, Harry, Mirko, Graeme, Zecke and some others, so thanks to you
too. You did a great work.

Kosa

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 05:38:48PM +0200, Andreas Fischer wrote:
> Michael Fisher wrote:
> 
> > hmmm, let's see here whom should I believe? A customer/user observing an
> > empty office and talk of a layoff or waiting for the company to come up
> > with the 'correct' words to describe the situation in order to lead us
> > further into a big empty hole?
> 
> Since OM didn't yet reply officially, there is nothing to "believe". So
> the question is rather: Do you believe a customer observing a situation
> out of context without hearing the other side first?

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Who_is_Who

It seems to be down to the CEO, a Design Manager and a Hardware Manager.

Either the company had lots of MIA in the Who_is_Who page, or right now
they may not have enough time to present their side :(

Rui

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

Well,

I, for one, am now considering my Freerunner a little treasure :)

Rui

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 03:41:32PM +0100, Vasco Névoa wrote:
> Hey, take it easy, stop going berserk, and wait for the announcement.
> They will talk to us when they're good and ready, so save your energy for 
> then, and stop raising confusion.
> Be civilised. Be smart. Be silent (until necessary).
> 
> Citando Moko Mania : 
> 
> > "we are very much alive and well -- That's official. Thanks for caring"   
> > is this MokoSarcasm? According to Whoiswho on the wiki almost everybody got 
> > laid off. Is the design team behind the layoffs? Are you part of the design 
> > team that took our raster already? If it's true then there is no more 
> > kernel support, no more software releases. How about customer support?   
> > Who is alive and well? The design team that cannot even design a simple 
> > functioning phone UI? Is your statement the only official statement we will 
> > hear for how long? Please don't tell me that everybody who ever did 
> > anything good for the community was fired.
> 

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Vasco Névoa]

Hey, take it easy, stop going berserk, and wait for the announcement.
They will talk to us when they're good and ready, so save your energy for then, 
and stop raising confusion.
Be civilised. Be smart. Be silent (until necessary).

Citando Moko Mania : 

> "we are very much alive and well -- That's official. Thanks for caring"   is 
> this MokoSarcasm? According to Whoiswho on the wiki almost everybody got laid 
> off. Is the design team behind the layoffs? Are you part of the design team 
> that took our raster already? If it's true then there is no more kernel 
> support, no more software releases. How about customer support?   Who is 
> alive and well? The design team that cannot even design a simple functioning 
> phone UI? Is your statement the only official statement we will hear for how 
> long? Please don't tell me that everybody who ever did anything good for the 
> community was fired.

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Michael Fisher]

2009/5/26 Vasco Névoa 

> Hey, take it easy, stop going berserk, and wait for the announcement.
> They will talk to us when they're good and ready, so save your energy for
> then, and stop raising confusion.
> Be civilised. Be smart. Be silent (until necessary).
>

hmmm, let's see here whom should I believe? A customer/user observing an
empty office and talk of a layoff or waiting for the company to come up with
the 'correct' words to describe the situation in order to lead us further
into a big empty hole?
desNotes

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[arne anka]

> "we are very much alive and well -- That's official. Thanks for caring"
> is this MokoSarcasm?
> According to Whoiswho on the wiki almost everybody got laid off.
> Is the design team behind the layoffs? Are you part of the design team  
> that
> took our raster already?


whoa! chill, buddy.

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Moko Mania]

"we are very much alive and well -- That's official. Thanks for caring"
is this MokoSarcasm?
According to Whoiswho on the wiki almost everybody got laid off.
Is the design team behind the layoffs? Are you part of the design team that
took our raster already?
If it's true then there is no more kernel support, no more software
releases. How about customer support?

Who is alive and well? The design team that cannot even design a simple
functioning phone UI? Is your statement the only official statement we will
hear for how long?
Please don't tell me that everybody who ever did anything good for the
community was fired.

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Brenda Wang  wrote:

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>
> Kosa wrote:
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> > lot with it.
> >
> > Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > Brenda wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> It's so sweet to hear that.
> >>
> >> Brenda Wang
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Kosa
> >
> > - - Un mundo mejor es posible -
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> > Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
> >> I subscribe this message! (picture me with a big thumbs up)
> >>
> >> Thank you very much, guys!
> >>
> >> Rui Seabra, omnewrotate
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> >>> A *BIG*, no a *HUGE* thank you to all the openmoko employees who worked
> >>> these last years without ever being in the spot light but nevertheless
> >>> doing a great job!!!
> >>>
> >>> All the best for your future, Openmoko would not have been possible
> >>> without you. You have opened new horizions and I am sure the future
> >>> will prove the concept was right but ahead of its time...
> >>>
> >>> Thanks again for a great job,
> >>>
> >>>   Marcus Bauer, tangoGPS
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:03:40 +0800
> >>> Sven Klomp  wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote:
> >>>>> A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> How long ago was this?
> >>>> I visited them yesterday (25th).
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

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Kosa wrote:
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> I do too. I'm very sad, but the freerunner is open, so we can still do a
> lot with it.
> 
> Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Brenda wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It's so sweet to hear that. 
>> 
>> Brenda Wang
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kosa
> 
> - - Un mundo mejor es posible -
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>> I subscribe this message! (picture me with a big thumbs up)
>> 
>> Thank you very much, guys!
>> 
>> Rui Seabra, omnewrotate
>> 
>> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
>>> A *BIG*, no a *HUGE* thank you to all the openmoko employees who worked
>>> these last years without ever being in the spot light but nevertheless
>>> doing a great job!!!
>>>
>>> All the best for your future, Openmoko would not have been possible
>>> without you. You have opened new horizions and I am sure the future
>>> will prove the concept was right but ahead of its time...
>>>
>>> Thanks again for a great job,
>>>
>>>   Marcus Bauer, tangoGPS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:03:40 +0800
>>> Sven Klomp  wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote:
>>>>> A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:
>>>>>
>>>>> How long ago was this?
>>>> I visited them yesterday (25th).
>>>>
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[William Lai]

Kosa wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
> Thanks.
> 

Um.. We are very much alive and well -- That's official.
Thanks for caring.


Regards,


Will (I work here)



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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Vinzenz Hersche]

i think and hope, the moko-project would be also alive if they didn't produce 
a new device..

i belive, there are possibilitys, as example gizmo for you 
(http://www.gizmoforyou.com/e107_plugins/wrap/wrap.php?3)..

they also created something like a mobilephone (no case, this must be done by 
the consumer :p 
http://www.gizmoforyou.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3_8&products_id=29)
 
so it's possible to use open smartphones in future too :)

the hope died at last ;)

Am Montag, 25. Mai 2009 21.59:01 schrieb fredrik normann:
> Gah, give us some detailes, all PR is good PR and you should be honest to
> the community, better than some stupid blogrumors.
>
> -f-
>
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Werner Almesberger 
wrote:
> > Sven Klomp wrote:
> > > When I arrived, the whole office was empty. [...]
> >
> > I'd say your timing was perfect. Your eyes did not betray you, but
> > it's still too early to draw too many conclusions from what you saw.
> >
> > I think it may take a few days before there will be any official
> > information from Openmoko. This is all brand-new and there's still
> > a lot of dust that has to settle, and not all of the consequences
> > may be for the worse.
> >
> > So, no need to panic quite yet :)
> >
> > - Werner
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[arne anka]

> Actually this seems to be "plan omega"

you serious?

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

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I do too. I'm very sad, but the freerunner is open, so we can still do a
lot with it.

Thanks Steve, Wolfgang, Sean, Brenda, Michael, Joerg, Tony Tu, everyone.
Thanks.

Kosa

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Rui Miguel Silva Seabra escribió:
> I subscribe this message! (picture me with a big thumbs up)
> 
> Thank you very much, guys!
> 
> Rui Seabra, omnewrotate
> 
> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
>> A *BIG*, no a *HUGE* thank you to all the openmoko employees who worked
>> these last years without ever being in the spot light but nevertheless
>> doing a great job!!!
>>
>> All the best for your future, Openmoko would not have been possible
>> without you. You have opened new horizions and I am sure the future
>> will prove the concept was right but ahead of its time...
>>
>> Thanks again for a great job,
>>
>>   Marcus Bauer, tangoGPS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:03:40 +0800
>> Sven Klomp  wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote:
 A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:

 How long ago was this?
>>> I visited them yesterday (25th).
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

I subscribe this message! (picture me with a big thumbs up)

Thank you very much, guys!

Rui Seabra, omnewrotate

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:45:32PM +0200, Marcus Bauer wrote:
> 
> A *BIG*, no a *HUGE* thank you to all the openmoko employees who worked
> these last years without ever being in the spot light but nevertheless
> doing a great job!!!
> 
> All the best for your future, Openmoko would not have been possible
> without you. You have opened new horizions and I am sure the future
> will prove the concept was right but ahead of its time...
> 
> Thanks again for a great job,
> 
>   Marcus Bauer, tangoGPS
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:03:40 +0800
> Sven Klomp  wrote:
> 
> > On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote:
> > > A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:
> > > 
> > > How long ago was this?
> > 
> > I visited them yesterday (25th).
> > 
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Marcus Bauer]

A *BIG*, no a *HUGE* thank you to all the openmoko employees who worked
these last years without ever being in the spot light but nevertheless
doing a great job!!!

All the best for your future, Openmoko would not have been possible
without you. You have opened new horizions and I am sure the future
will prove the concept was right but ahead of its time...

Thanks again for a great job,

  Marcus Bauer, tangoGPS




On Tue, 26 May 2009 01:03:40 +0800
Sven Klomp  wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote:
> > A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:
> > 
> > How long ago was this?
> 
> I visited them yesterday (25th).
> 
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[fredrik normann]

Gah, give us some detailes, all PR is good PR and you should be honest to
the community, better than some stupid blogrumors.

-f-

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 4:38 PM, Werner Almesberger wrote:

> Sven Klomp wrote:
> > When I arrived, the whole office was empty. [...]
>
> I'd say your timing was perfect. Your eyes did not betray you, but
> it's still too early to draw too many conclusions from what you saw.
>
> I think it may take a few days before there will be any official
> information from Openmoko. This is all brand-new and there's still
> a lot of dust that has to settle, and not all of the consequences
> may be for the worse.
>
> So, no need to panic quite yet :)
>
> - Werner
>
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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Werner Almesberger]

Sven Klomp wrote:
> When I arrived, the whole office was empty. [...]

I'd say your timing was perfect. Your eyes did not betray you, but
it's still too early to draw too many conclusions from what you saw.

I think it may take a few days before there will be any official
information from Openmoko. This is all brand-new and there's still
a lot of dust that has to settle, and not all of the consequences
may be for the worse.

So, no need to panic quite yet :)

- Werner

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Sven Klomp]

On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote:
> A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:
> 
> How long ago was this?

I visited them yesterday (25th).

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Daniel Willmann]

On Mon, 25 May 2009 17:46:27 +0100
Thomas White  wrote:

> On Mon, 25 May 2009 23:40:03 +0800
> Sven Klomp  wrote:
> 
> > I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to
> > stop by the Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily
> > phone, hence I was interested in the people behind it. When I
> > arrived, the whole office was empty. 10 minutes later they came
> > back from a company meeting. I had prepared quite some questions
> > but I didn't got that far. It seems to me that almost everyone just
> > got layed of in this very meeting. That's not how I'd imagined the
> > visit :-(
> 
> A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:
> 
> How long ago was this?

post April 1st

Daniel


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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Joerg Reisenweber]

Am Mo  25. Mai 2009 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> 
> Am 25.05.2009 um 18:22 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:
> 
> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:40:03PM +0800, Sven Klomp wrote:
> >> I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to  
> >> stop by the Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily  
> >> phone, hence I was interested in the people behind it.
> >> When I arrived, the whole office was empty. 10 minutes later they  
> >> came back from a company meeting. I had prepared quite some  
> >> questions but I didn't got that far. It seems to me that almost  
> >> everyone just got layed of in this very meeting.
> >> That's not how I'd imagined the visit :-(
> >
> > WTF?
> 
> "Plan B"?

Actually this seems to be "plan omega"
:-/
/j


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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Thomas White]

On Mon, 25 May 2009 23:40:03 +0800
Sven Klomp  wrote:

> I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to stop by
> the Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily phone, hence I was
> interested in the people behind it. When I arrived, the whole office was
> empty. 10 minutes later they came back from a company meeting. I had
> prepared quite some questions but I didn't got that far. It seems to me
> that almost everyone just got layed of in this very meeting. That's not how
> I'd imagined the visit :-(

A not unimportant snippet of information is missing:

How long ago was this?

Tom

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[Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller]

Am 25.05.2009 um 18:22 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra:

> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:40:03PM +0800, Sven Klomp wrote:
>> I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to  
>> stop by the Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily  
>> phone, hence I was interested in the people behind it.
>> When I arrived, the whole office was empty. 10 minutes later they  
>> came back from a company meeting. I had prepared quite some  
>> questions but I didn't got that far. It seems to me that almost  
>> everyone just got layed of in this very meeting.
>> That's not how I'd imagined the visit :-(
>
> WTF?

"Plan B"?

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Re: Visit at Openmoko

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 11:40:03PM +0800, Sven Klomp wrote:
> I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to stop by the 
> Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily phone, hence I was 
> interested in the people behind it.
> When I arrived, the whole office was empty. 10 minutes later they came back 
> from a company meeting. I had prepared quite some questions but I didn't got 
> that far. It seems to me that almost everyone just got layed of in this very 
> meeting.
> That's not how I'd imagined the visit :-(

WTF?

Rui

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Visit at Openmoko

[Sven Klomp]

Hi,

I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to stop by the 
Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily phone, hence I was interested 
in the people behind it.
When I arrived, the whole office was empty. 10 minutes later they came back 
from a company meeting. I had prepared quite some questions but I didn't got 
that far. It seems to me that almost everyone just got layed of in this very 
meeting.
That's not how I'd imagined the visit :-(

Sven

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