Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

2007-01-26 Thread Robert Michel
Salve David!

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007, David Schlesinger wrote:
 
 ACCESS is a participating member of both OSDL's Mobile Linux Initiative and 
 of the Linux Phone Standards Forum--I'm acting chair of the MLI Steering 
 Committee and vice-chair of LiPS' Architectural Working Group--and we've 
 contributed to the requirements documents, API specifications, etc. for both 
 those groups.

I found this today and that the OSDL/DTL (Desktop working goup) has
published it's yearly report and came to the statement that 2006 has
been the year of the linux desktop:
http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT3453502692.html

Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab_activities/mobile_linux/mli

Maybe it is not the right time to ask/talk about this, but I think
that OSDL is doing good work for promoting Linux and that linking
and cooperation would be a bennefit for both OSDL/MLI and OpenMoko...

Or let it me say in that way, it would be nice to read about 
OpenMoko/Neo1973 in a yearly report of OSDL/MLI, at last in the
report about year 2007.

 So I don't think it's accurate to paint those as four different, 
 separate and unrelated parallel efforts. It's our plan of record 
 that the ACCESS Linux Platform will converge with both MLI guidelines 
 and requirements and the set of LiPS-specified applications APIs.

Can you, or Sean, when it doesn't take to much time,  say something about 
OpenMoko and OSDL/MLI?

Greetings,
rob


PS: IMHO LiMo looks like powered by lawers and I think that this foundation
is not a cooperation by their hearts - so we will have several 
advantages/chances to have a better, more efficent cooperation. ;)

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RE: Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

2007-01-26 Thread David Schlesinger
Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab_activities/mobile_linux/mli

Not too confusing. It's not a recent page, and the information on there was 
provided by members (of which FIC is not currently one, although we've invited 
them to participate...)

Or let it me say in that way, it would be nice to read about 
OpenMoko/Neo1973 in a yearly report of OSDL/MLI, at last in the
report about year 2007.

No doubt, but such a yearly report would be a recap of MLI's activities, like 
DCL's, not a general survey of what's been going on outside the group in the 
world of Mobile Linux at large so much. Remember: we only first heard of 
OpenMoko and FIC at Open Source in Mobile 2007, back in November, and--frankly 
speaking--there's not really much concrete substance to say about it as yet.

Can you, or Sean, when it doesn't take to much time,  say something about 
OpenMoko and OSDL/MLI?

Not much, really, for the reasons cited above. OpenMoko seems like a worthy and 
interesting effort, and we'd welcome the participation of FIC in the Linux 
Foundation or in LiPS whenever they're prepared to join us.
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Re: Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

2007-01-26 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 1/27/07 12:57 AM, David Schlesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
 business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
 confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
 http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab_activities/mobile_linux/mli
 
 Not too confusing. It's not a recent page, and the information on there was
 provided by members (of which FIC is not currently one, although we've invited
 them to participate...)

Please don't take this a meaning anything other than we have zero free time
;-)

-Sean


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RE: Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

2007-01-26 Thread David Schlesinger
 Not too confusing. It's not a recent page, and the information on there was
 provided by members (of which FIC is not currently one, although we've 
 invited
 them to participate...)

Please don't take this a meaning anything other than we have zero free time

Oh, believe me, I understand completely, very likely better than most people on 
this list: I've actually _shipped_ commercial operating systems, and for a few 
companies...

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Re: Will the OSDL/MLI have a yearly report as well? Re: LiMo foundation

2007-01-26 Thread Richi Plana
On Sat, 2007-01-27 at 01:51 +0800, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
  Linux Organisation membership and organisation politics is not my
  business, but from the linux-user point of view it is a little
  confusing that OpenMoko/Neo1973 isn't mentioned here:
  http://old.linux-foundation.org/lab_activities/mobile_linux/mli
  
  Not too confusing. It's not a recent page, and the information on there was
  provided by members (of which FIC is not currently one, although we've 
  invited
  them to participate...)
 
 Please don't take this a meaning anything other than we have zero free time
 ;-)

There you go! I, for one, believe that with the lack of actions,
intentions count. Sometimes they count for more than actions as those
can be misinterpreted or constrained by unforseen and unwanted factors.

It would be nice if all of these efforts come together.
--

Richi


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