Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:01:29 -0700 Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the info on the wiki is mostly misleading when it comes to the keyboard and what to do or how it works. beware. i need to write up a full list of all the things illume can do, does and what you are currently limited in (and what you can hack around with but you'll be entering world of hurt area etc.). Terminal.kbd is what i renamed it too. as its really intended for use with terminals. default is the default kbd - more for the default use of the phone... plain english (sms, email etc.). Indeed, I too found out that the keyboard in default 2008.8 is only plain english, but I'm Dutch, and most of my texts would be in Dutch as well. So that makes that keyboard less than functional for me. BTW, as a test, I tried to type Laporte with the keyboard, since I heard from Leo Laporte that on the Iphone his name was very hard to type. And it seems that it's just impossible to type it on the Openmoko 2008.8 stock keyboard. I'm also going to test how to work with the keyboard when in a terminal mode, since I'm yet to be able to hit enter after entering a command. (typing the command works, but then pressing enter to execute it has yet to function for me) I could be doing something wrong, but I'm not sure. === Marcel de Jong -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/full-keyboard-for-Om-2008.08--tp681538p730880.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI ) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:39:10 -0400 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the wiki is misleading/wrong. Terminal.kbd is what you want - it's all installed by default. your problem is being able to use the illume kbd at all - you are stuck with the qtopia one as long as it feels like creating it. On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI ) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
2008/8/17 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff I was bitten by this same issue of the Full-QWERTY.kbd file getting blasted by the updates described at the link you reference above (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard), and in fact just yesterday I posted a note about this on a page I'm keeping at my site where I jot notes about fixing or improving my Freerunner: http://natha.nkinka.de/openmoko. In any case, I got the Full-QWERTY.kbd file back by simply downloading the tar-gzipped files for the 2008.8 release and cherry picking it from there: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.tar.gz Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Sun, Aug 17, 2008 at 10:56 AM, The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the wiki is misleading/wrong. Terminal.kbd is what you want - it's all installed by default. your problem is being able to use the illume kbd at all - you are stuck with the qtopia one as long as it feels like creating it. Thank you very much, backed up and replaced the Default.kbd with the Terminal.kbd and now the Full Qwerty keyboard comes up when I launch the terminal, or the messenger, etc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
On Sun, 17 Aug 2008 10:01:29 -0700 Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: the info on the wiki is mostly misleading when it comes to the keyboard and what to do or how it works. beware. i need to write up a full list of all the things illume can do, does and what you are currently limited in (and what you can hack around with but you'll be entering world of hurt area etc.). Terminal.kbd is what i renamed it too. as its really intended for use with terminals. default is the default kbd - more for the default use of the phone... plain english (sms, email etc.). 2008/8/17 Geoff Ruscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Andreas Hennig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So I have the 2008.08 Then I upgraded the packages using Zeche's builds: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Download#Unofficial_builds_by_zecke I went with testing which should be more stable than development (I believe)... I upgraded to do the gprs mux: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#Option_1:_With_GSM_multiplexing_and_with_a_GUI) And this is working great. Then I decided I better get the qwerty keyboard going. However, after upgrading all of the packages from above two steps I no longer have the file: /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full-QWERTY.kbd So, backing up this file is kind of step 1 in the process found at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard So three things... 1) I hope these links and tying this information is helpful to someone I know I am much happier with my freerunner now, ymmv... 2) I think you may want to backup your files and do the keyboard before the other two steps... 3) Can anyone provide me with the Full_QUERTY.kbd file? Thanks so much! -Geoff I was bitten by this same issue of the Full-QWERTY.kbd file getting blasted by the updates described at the link you reference above (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard), and in fact just yesterday I posted a note about this on a page I'm keeping at my site where I jot notes about fixing or improving my Freerunner: http://natha.nkinka.de/openmoko. In any case, I got the Full-QWERTY.kbd file back by simply downloading the tar-gzipped files for the 2008.8 release and cherry picking it from there: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.tar.gz Nathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
I dont have the file /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/keyboards/Full- QWERTY.kbd But after boot i can see the full qwerty keyboard to enter the SIM-pin and 1 sec later enlightenment crashes and afer recover the old keyboard is back :-( Am Monday 11 August 2008 schrieb Olivier Berger: Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12 _armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. Thanks alot for these details. And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keybo ard I call it an issue solved by the community while the support staff was on weekend break ;-) but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) You mean OM 2008.8 *is* supported ? ;-) ... sorry, couldn't help it. Well, more seriously : as it fixes a major usability defect of OM 2008.8, I'd expect it to be supported ! Best regards, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:10:20 +0200 Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: DooD [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm figured out why my above fix was only working on my asu build and not my om2008.8 need to install http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily-feed/armv4t/illume_0.0+svnr196-r12_armv4t.ipk this version seems to let me use whatever keyboard i like, which is how it should be. hope it doesnt magically disappear . . Would you care to elaborate on let me use whatever keyboard i like ? Maybe you may add a howto into http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ASU_Keyboard_Toggle ? Many thanks in advance. illume's code can use it's internal keyboard, do nothing at all (and just wait until some external keyboard is run - like qpe does) or run a keyboard process for you. it even will queue multiple keyboards if more than 1 was launched - but it works with a first-come-first-served policy there. the gui config is simple (chose none, internal default or some of N others). the gui will list any .desktop files it found that have Keyboard in the categories list for the .desktop. Thanks alot for these details. And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard I call it an issue solved by the community while the support staff was on weekend break ;-) but of course this config dialog isn't really meant to be supported. not in ASU/2008.8 so it's more of a if you somehow find it and get it up - use at your own risk. :) You mean OM 2008.8 *is* supported ? ;-) ... sorry, couldn't help it. Well, more seriously : as it fixes a major usability defect of OM 2008.8, I'd expect it to be supported ! Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Where can I download this file again? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
I could reboot and still have the full querty... On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Rorschach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And glad some nice soul added details to : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Keyboard#Using_the_Full_Qwerty_keyboard Nice but after a reboot the fullqwerty has again disappeared and I have just the old keyboard back. I even lost the Full-QWERTY.kbd file?? It isn't there anymore. Where can I download this file again? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: full-keyboard for Om 2008.08? - SOLVED ?
huh: after a second reboot the full-qwerty was back again?? this is confusing.. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
