Re: keyboard (was Re: 2008.8 raster + zecke, great useability, and remaining flaws)

2008-08-26 Thread Yorick Moko
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 06:21:19PM +0200, Daniel Selinger wrote:

 3. 2008.8 keyboard
 This is no issue which hits me because i use rasters image. But i, and
 i think a lot of other people would love to see the keyboard of rasters
 image on 2008.8. Either as default or changeable via illume-config. I
 also would love to have the qerty button visible by default.

 I hope not being recognized as a troll now (my history with the project 
 helps).
 I believe it is almost foolish not to have that keyboard button by default.
 This phone is still something primarily to be used by hardcore geeks, and
 please show me the linux geek who doesn't use the keyboard here or there with
 some application that doesn't hook into the automatically-show-keyboard magic?

 I wish for this kind of question there would be an easy-to-be-configured
 polling mechanism that could be put up at some openmoko.org website.  I think
 there are many of those issues where all kinds of people inside openmoko inc.
 could benefit from a very quick-to-read opinion of their user base without
 reading through tons of threads of discussions that get time-consuming and
 boring over time.

 Just my 2 cents,
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 - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://openmoko.org/
 
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I agree

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Re: keyboard (was Re: 2008.8 raster + zecke, great useability, and remaining flaws)

2008-08-26 Thread Chaosspawn23
Harald Welte wrote:
 I hope not being recognized as a troll now (my history with the project 
 helps).
 I believe it is almost foolish not to have that keyboard button by default.
 This phone is still something primarily to be used by hardcore geeks, and
 please show me the linux geek who doesn't use the keyboard here or there with
 some application that doesn't hook into the automatically-show-keyboard magic?
 
 I wish for this kind of question there would be an easy-to-be-configured
 polling mechanism that could be put up at some openmoko.org website.  I think
 there are many of those issues where all kinds of people inside openmoko inc.
 could benefit from a very quick-to-read opinion of their user base without
 reading through tons of threads of discussions that get time-consuming and
 boring over time.
 
 Just my 2 cents,

+1

Even if the core applications can (and should!) implement the
show-me-the-keyboard mechanism, I don't think it would be trivial
to implement it for other (ported) apps like, say, Battle for Wesnoth
or Numpty Physics (yes, I do realize those are all games ;) ).
Just my two cents, too :)

Regards,
Konstantin

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Re: keyboard (was Re: 2008.8 raster + zecke, great useability, and remaining flaws)

2008-08-26 Thread Flyin_bbb8
 in many ways it's good to know i won't be the meat in the sandwich between
 community and company going forward. :)


Don't worry Raster you're not the meat in the sandwich, i can see most
of the things you do helps us, but somehow the design department
doesn't like the good changes you make, and i can see that if the
design department keeps making foolish decisions they'll very soon
become that meat in the sandwich and be crushed until there's no meat
in the sandwich, then there will not be foolish decisions anymore and
we can have a poll on the decisions, that's the open way of doing it.

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