Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote:
 I am really looking forward to the upgrade of neo theme to illume2 ;-)

And how you close an application in illume2?;-)
For me the top shelf does not slide down anymore (dunno, what should
be the method
to close the applications)

Best regards,
 Laszlo

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Re: Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread neo
 And how you close an application in illume2?;-)
 For me the top shelf does not slide down anymore (dunno, what should
 be the method
 to close the applications)

For me it does not automatically, but as workaraound you can start 
shr_elm_softkey from the terminal and then it works fine.

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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread Jan Girlich
Am Mittwoch, den 05.05.2010, 01:26 +0200 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
 Jan Girlich wrote:
  Wooha,
 
  after playing around too much with my installation today I broke it and
  reflashed my Freerunner with the lastest SHR unstable. And am stuck!
  Where do you guys keep up to date regarding the changes in the SHR apps?
 

 i don't... since the switch to fsogsmd+fsotld+etc... my neo is in a 
 vegetative state
  I installed shr-theme-neo again and noticed that the background and
  symbol font on the starter are black and thus the app names are
  unreadable.
 (i'm the author of the neo theme ...at least illume and elm) i dont 
 bother with illume2 for now
  ...
 i'm waiting till these issues are ironed out then i'll adapt the 
 theme... what good does eye candy do when underlaying stuff is broken? :-P
 
 because of the current situation dont expect any theme updates until the 
 current regressions are ironed out.
 you might want to try to switch to illume1 - window management and neo 
 theme works there (go to illume settings - [i forgot the category] - 
 profile and select illume-shr)

I changed the theme under Look - Themes to illume-shr and go with this
until the neo theme is fixed again.

Thanks
Jan


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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread Jan Girlich
Am Mittwoch, den 05.05.2010, 08:36 +0200 schrieb Laszlo KREKACS:
 On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de wrote:
  I am really looking forward to the upgrade of neo theme to illume2 ;-)
 
 And how you close an application in illume2?;-)
 For me the top shelf does not slide down anymore (dunno, what should
 be the method
 to close the applications)

That's the same problem I tried to describe in my original post as well.
I can't close any app anymore. Like the messages app. Open it once, not
able to close, open something else so messages moves away from your
current screen, then you don't have any means of switching to the
currently running messages app anymore and can't open a new one because
you can't start the app twice. Stuck. ssh into the phone/reboot.

Cheers
Jan


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Re: Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread Jan Girlich
Am Mittwoch, den 05.05.2010, 09:39 +0200 schrieb n...@el-hennig.de:
  And how you close an application in illume2?;-)
  For me the top shelf does not slide down anymore (dunno, what should
  be the method
  to close the applications)
 
 For me it does not automatically, but as workaraound you can start 
 shr_elm_softkey from the terminal and then it works fine.

Thanks!
Jan


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Re: Re: Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread neo
  For me it does not automatically, but as workaraound you can start
 shr_elm_softkey from the terminal and then it works fine.

I found an even better way to workaraounf this problem automatically:

I created a wrapper /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey.sh that is called from 
/etc/X11/Xsession.d/89shr_elm_softkey and that waits some time until it starts 
shr_elm_softkey

The wrapper loks like this:
---8-
#!/bin/sh
export DISPLAY=localhost:0
sleep 60

exec /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey
---8-

The Xsession-Skript is the following:
---8-
#!/bin/sh -e
DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey.sh 
---8-






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Re: Re: Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread Martin Jansa
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 12:57:41PM +0200, n...@el-hennig.de wrote:
   For me it does not automatically, but as workaraound you can start
  shr_elm_softkey from the terminal and then it works fine.
 
 I found an even better way to workaraounf this problem automatically:
 
 I created a wrapper /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey.sh that is called from 
 /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89shr_elm_softkey and that waits some time until it 
 starts shr_elm_softkey
 
 The wrapper loks like this:
 ---8-
 #!/bin/sh
 export DISPLAY=localhost:0
 sleep 60
 
 exec /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey
 ---8-
 
 The Xsession-Skript is the following:
 ---8-
 #!/bin/sh -e
 DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey.sh 
 ---8-

There is strace for not working
http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/shr_elm.log.no
and working start
http://build.shr-project.org/tests/jama/shr_elm.log.yes

As TAsn confirmed shr_elm_softkey needs illume module to be loaded
before it's started.

Your workaround works, but be aware that in that 60s you have to finish
first run wizard (after reflash or .e removal). TAsn is checking
possibilities for shr_elm_softkey autostarted by e17 itself.

snip
The best approach (imo), would be to make an app.desktop file, put it in
/usr/share/applications (or standard place for your platform). Then in
/etc/skel make a ./e/e/applications/startup/.order file with app.desktop
listed in it. Then when new users get created, the
~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order file gets copied into users home dir
and the QP app will get started every time they start E.
/snip

Shorter version of same workaround (not pushed because 20s is as bad as
60s for first start).

sed -i 's#^DISPLAY=:0.0 /usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey#sh -c sleep 20 \\ 
/usr/bin/shr_elm_softkey#g' /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89shr_elm_softkey

DISPLAY is also already set by /etc/profile..

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Re: Re: Re: Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-05 Thread neo


 TAsn is checking
 possibilities for shr_elm_softkey autostarted by e17 itself.

That's probably the most elegant way. 

What I would like then, is to have the sliding shelf in the same style as the 
indicator, the capability of holding gadgets in the sliding shelf (like the 
IBar) and a possibility to configure the height of the shelf, if that is 
possible. 



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latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread Jan Girlich
Wooha,

after playing around too much with my installation today I broke it and
reflashed my Freerunner with the lastest SHR unstable. And am stuck!
Where do you guys keep up to date regarding the changes in the SHR apps?

I installed shr-theme-neo again and noticed that the background and
symbol font on the starter are black and thus the app names are
unreadable. Changing the wallpaper does not change anything, the
background stays plain black.

The newly designed top bar does and power button-screen do not allow
to close an application as they did before. So now when I open an app
which has no quit button like tnagogps and then open another one, I'm
stuck. I can't go back to the already opened instance because the left
and right arrows to switch between apps are missing, and even if I
could, I didn't know how to close it again. Tapping the tangopgs symbol
again doesn't do anything: neither changing to the already opened
instance out of sight nor opening a new one. How can I close apps? How
can I switch between them?

I really like the qwo keyboard, when I change the keyboard setting to
qwo it permanently is overlayed on the screen, about middle of the
screen, left side, and all app starter symbols are blanking out so I
can't see any app anymore. qwo stays like this no matter what the
topbars keyboard indicator status is and I have no clue how to make qwo
go away and only appear when I tap the keyboard indicator icon like the
default keyboard does.

Any help appreciated
Jan


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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jan Girlich vollk...@cryptobitch.de wrote:
 The newly designed top bar does and power button-screen do not allow
 to close an application as they did before. So now when I open an app
 which has no quit button like tnagogps and then open another one, I'm
 stuck.

a few versions back there were back and close buttons on the
bottom of the screen to handle switching and closing applications.
in the latest versions those buttons were absent. so i have not opkg
upgraded in some time because of it.

something went down the tubes...

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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread Bernd Prünster
Jan Girlich wrote:
 Wooha,

 after playing around too much with my installation today I broke it and
 reflashed my Freerunner with the lastest SHR unstable. And am stuck!
 Where do you guys keep up to date regarding the changes in the SHR apps?

   
i don't... since the switch to fsogsmd+fsotld+etc... my neo is in a 
vegetative state
 I installed shr-theme-neo again and noticed that the background and
 symbol font on the starter are black and thus the app names are
 unreadable.
(i'm the author of the neo theme ...at least illume and elm) i dont 
bother with illume2 for now
 ...
i'm waiting till these issues are ironed out then i'll adapt the 
theme... what good does eye candy do when underlaying stuff is broken? :-P

because of the current situation dont expect any theme updates until the 
current regressions are ironed out.
you might want to try to switch to illume1 - window management and neo 
theme works there (go to illume settings - [i forgot the category] - 
profile and select illume-shr)

br

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Re: latest SHR unstable: neo theme not working well, can't close apps anymore, qwo keyboard breaks starter

2010-05-04 Thread Lars Hennig
Am Mittwoch 05 Mai 2010 schrieb Bernd Prünster:
 because of the current situation dont expect any theme updates until the
 current regressions are ironed out.
 you might want to try to switch to illume1 - window management and neo
 theme works there (go to illume settings - [i forgot the category] -
 profile and select illume-shr)

Once you tried illume2, you probably won't want to go back. At least in my 
case this was true.

I am really looking forward to the upgrade of neo theme to illume2 ;-)

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