Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:14:32 + Dmitry Shalnoff wrote: > Honestly I don't understand the reason to close the access for users > (who are main audience of the recourse) just to avoid the spam. It's > ridiculous. I do see the point, but usually a wiki has an active maintainer who will permit new persons to have editing rights, on request. That is the current difficulty, that no-one has been issued new editing rights, It may be necessary to duplicate the old wiki on a new address. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
On Sunday, March 17, 2013 03:14:32 PM Dmitry Shalnoff wrote: > > But one day your GTA02 will stop working - it might fall on the floor or > > whatever. GTA04 is only replacement - that's why it's important to > > support GTA04 - either by donation or buying the device. > > how it connected with the subject? > > This is not a reason to move the wiki or close it. This is an open > source project, the marketing stereotypes (that the new generation > hardware is the better replacement for old one) just not applicable. My point was that if there is no living replacement project, openmoko will die. The number of users/devs will convert to 0. Sooner or later your device will stop working and only replacement will be android/windows phone/iPhone. > Just because that targeted to stimulate consumer market for sales, but > not to give ability to people to create whatever they want. I dont like buying new phone every year. But Freerunner HW is badly flawed in a few ways (e.g. Glamo) and this justified buying GTA04 for me. > I'm as a user of wiki just don't care whether it contains some spam or > not. I do - there is a lot of useful information and i dont like that some spam machined deletes it. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
I wrote to admin (on the address mentioned here http://admin-trac.openmoko.org/trac), will see for feedback. Current admin actually shouldn't do anything. Just delegate rights to somebody else. I'm ready to participate in this process to, by the way. On 16/03/13 15:38, Paul Wise wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Radek Polak wrote: Maybe i am wrong but openmoko as company is for years dead and nobody of the old admins is willing to spend much time on maintaining the infrastructure. There are other folks willing to maintain the infrastructure (such as me), but it seems the current admins don't have time to do the cleanup of stuff that is needed before they can add new admins who never worked for OpenMoko Inc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
Hi Radek and everybody, But one day your GTA02 will stop working - it might fall on the floor or whatever. GTA04 is only replacement - that's why it's important to support GTA04 - either by donation or buying the device. how it connected with the subject? This is not a reason to move the wiki or close it. This is an open source project, the marketing stereotypes (that the new generation hardware is the better replacement for old one) just not applicable. Just because that targeted to stimulate consumer market for sales, but not to give ability to people to create whatever they want. The potential of the hardware is not equal to the formal functionality of device. I plan to use the GTA02 as a core for robotic system, for example. Someone else maybe create something else with it (whatever it could be). It's logical to keep all data in one well know habitual knowledge base. And it's logical to keep it open for new supplements. Maybe i am wrong but openmoko as company is for years dead and nobody of the old admins is willing to spend much time on maintaining the infrastructure. I guess the number of spammers is now 1000x higher the number of contributors, that's why it's readonly. And it's no wonder that GTA04 has separate wiki because of these reasons. I'm as a user of wiki just don't care whether it contains some spam or not. I have a will to clean it if I found it, or doesn't if I'm lazy (or whatever). This is totally not a point. Honestly I don't understand the reason to close the access for users (who are main audience of the recourse) just to avoid the spam. It's ridiculous. Dmitry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New GTA02s (was WIKI is in read-only mode?)
Radek Polak wrote: > But one day your GTA02 will stop working - it might fall on the floor or > whatever. GTA04 is only replacement - Although it may be the only available replacement at the present moment, it shouldn't remain that way for long. We, the FreeCalypso community (see below), need to make an effort to produce a new GTA02-like phone, Calypso-based. The first naive thought would be to contract with some pirate manufacturing company to make verbatim unauthorized clones of the GTA02, by reverse-engineering the GTA02 PCB and copying it verbatim, layer for layer, trace for trace, via for via. But it probably wouldn't be the wisest choice in technical terms, even if all of the components were still readily available (which they aren't) - the GTA02 board includes some really stupid design choices which I would want to get rid of if we're going to the trouble of building new boards - the Glamo being first and foremost. Because the single most important feature I seek to retain from the GTA02 is the Calypso, we will probably still need to send a dead GTA02 PCB to a pirate manufacturing / reverse eng shop to recover the PCB layout withheld by Closedmoko-Inc. (We already have the schematics for the Calypso block, TI's Leonardo reference design, but the corresponding PCB layout is currently missing.) As for the rest of the GTA02 board, i.e., the AP realm, I would want to simplify it quite a bit - take the Glamo, Wifi and BT out, connect the audio directly to the Iota (Calypso's analog part) so that nothing on the AP side needs to remain powered during a long voice call, and if the original Samsung AP is no longer available (which is probably the case), replace it with whatever other AP we can find that does the minimal functionality we need using the least amount of battery power. The Calypso chips themselves can still be obtained on the grey market. And once that supply runs out, we'll need to send a Spetsnaz unit into whatever TI facility has the old IC fabrication masks, seize those, and take them to some Chinese fab to restart the production of those chips. > that's why it's important to support > GTA04 - either by donation or buying the device. Not being Calypso-based, the GTA04 is a massive downgrade from the GTA02, and can't really be seen as a replacement except a very feeble one. Therefore, anyone who wishes his/her phone to be a *phone*, rather than a PDA or whatever, who sees the GSM processor as the most important part of the phone, rather than some unimportant "modem", and for whom the concept of a Free Phone means running fully source-enabled firmware on the actual phone (GSM baseband) processor, should NOT waste his/her money on a GTA04 downgrade, and should instead donate to the FreeCalypso project - the latter will need to raise funds to pay for the professional pirate-manuf reverse engineering of the GTA02 PCB, to buy Calypso chips on the grey market, and to build the actual new Calypso phones. The firmware will be the user's choice of FreeCalypso or OsmocomBB. I choose the former, but others can use whatever they like. > Maybe i am wrong but openmoko as company is for years dead and nobody of the > old admins is willing to spend much time on maintaining the infrastructure. I > guess the number of spammers is now 1000x higher the number of contributors, > that's why it's readonly. And it's no wonder that GTA04 has separate wiki > because of these reasons. Dr. HNS of Golden Delicious has been saying for quite a while now that with Openmoko being effectively dead, the Openmoko community is in need of a new successor/replacement, and that successor/replacement is OpenPhoenux. I agree with the first part, but not the second. There is not one but TWO camps seeking to continue the work of Openmoko in different directions: one is OpenPhoenux, the other is FreeCalypso. In order to become a bona fide new community, FreeCalypso needs its own web presence, its own wiki and its own mailing list. I already have a set of physical servers in my own sovereign micronation, all that remains to be done is the software setup - sysadmin stuff. I will post an announcement when the new FreeCalypso community home is up. VLR, SF ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Radek Polak wrote: > Maybe i am wrong but openmoko as company is for years dead and nobody of the > old admins is willing to spend much time on maintaining the infrastructure. There are other folks willing to maintain the infrastructure (such as me), but it seems the current admins don't have time to do the cleanup of stuff that is needed before they can add new admins who never worked for OpenMoko Inc. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
On Friday, March 15, 2013 03:01:37 PM Dmitry Shalnoff wrote: > And another theme I was alerted by: this is a splitting of wiki for > GTA02 and GTA04. I honestly don't really like that idea not even because > I still use GTA02 and have no plans to reject it just because more > powerful device is on the market, but also because a I'm not really love > idea of "buying new gadget just because it has more powerful processor". > I love idea of keeping old hardware living for maximum long time, for > reusing it and for improvement of functionality in the frames of given > power. And I believe that a lot of people support my point of view. But one day your GTA02 will stop working - it might fall on the floor or whatever. GTA04 is only replacement - that's why it's important to support GTA04 - either by donation or buying the device. Maybe i am wrong but openmoko as company is for years dead and nobody of the old admins is willing to spend much time on maintaining the infrastructure. I guess the number of spammers is now 1000x higher the number of contributors, that's why it's readonly. And it's no wonder that GTA04 has separate wiki because of these reasons. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WIKI is in read-only mode?
I fully agree. I will eventually turn my GTA02 into a GTA04 but my wife still has here GTA02. I think it would be good to have a GTAXX wiki with common stuff and tags for stuff just applying to GTA02 or GTA04 robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WIKI is in read-only mode?
Hi list, I just found that I'm not able to write to wiki today. And I see that some time ago there was discussion regarding of possibility to switch it to read-only mode or even move somewhere else. IMHO this is a wrong idea. Wiki is an open platform by its nature. So the volume of spam -- is just a result of that 1. visitors don't clean the spam when they found it 2. there is no capcha or any relevant mechanism to prevent robo-spam posting And another theme I was alerted by: this is a splitting of wiki for GTA02 and GTA04. I honestly don't really like that idea not even because I still use GTA02 and have no plans to reject it just because more powerful device is on the market, but also because a I'm not really love idea of "buying new gadget just because it has more powerful processor". I love idea of keeping old hardware living for maximum long time, for reusing it and for improvement of functionality in the frames of given power. And I believe that a lot of people support my point of view. So, please don't archive old wiki and don't make it read-only. This is wrong way IMHO. And the main question. How to get access to the wiki eventually? thank you in advance, Dmitry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
if the wiki can indeed be transferred, maybe you can do an official posting on who would like to apply for write access. I would certainly like to tidy up a couple of pages and add more recent information, but reading the gmane list there are many others willing to do so as well. br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Am 28.01.2013 um 16:12 schrieb robin: > true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which > is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at > gta04.org > but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain > information > on openphoenux gta04.org is intended for information on GTA04 only, while openphoenux.org is intended for and open for any GTA0x. I am not sure if it is possible to copy the MediaWiki from wiki.openmoko.org to openphoenux.org (is there read access to the database? does it break links?). And an important question is to find a handful of volunteers to moderate and clean it up. Nikolaus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
true, but there are a lot of GTA02 users and there is stuff on the wiki which is important to GTA02 and GTA04. I wouldn't mind, if it was hosted at gta04.org but if I remember correctly gta04.org was only supposed to contain information on openphoenux robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Am 28.01.2013 um 03:06 schrieb Harry Prevor: > On 11/10/12, Liz wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:39 -0500 >> Harry Prevor wrote: >> >>> On 10/31/12, Harald Welte wrote: >>>> Hi Paul, >>>> >>>> I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still >>>> today. >>>> >>>> Thanks for pointing it out. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >>>>> Hi Harald, all, >>>>> >>>>> To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do >>>>> so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: >>>>> >>>>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges >>> >>> Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have >>> to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users >>> only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still >>> very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a >>> few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly >>> forever. Please reconsider this. >>> >> >> Neither of the two methods you mention actually stop spam being posted. >> Humans register and then post the spam. >> I'm sure that a few persons could have write access, and that the wiki >> owner could consider your request. > > Well, it's been over two months and the wiki is still read-only. I was > under the impression this was supposed to be temporary; when will this > be fixed? I often find incorrect information in wiki articles and I'm > all-too-frequently frustrated by the fact that I can't fix it. Openmoko is dead - long live OpenPhoenux :) -- hns ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On 11/10/12, Liz wrote: > On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:39 -0500 > Harry Prevor wrote: > >> On 10/31/12, Harald Welte wrote: >> > Hi Paul, >> > >> > I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still >> > today. >> > >> > Thanks for pointing it out. >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> >> Hi Harald, all, >> >> >> >> To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do >> >> so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: >> >> >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges >> >> Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have >> to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users >> only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still >> very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a >> few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly >> forever. Please reconsider this. >> > > Neither of the two methods you mention actually stop spam being posted. > Humans register and then post the spam. > I'm sure that a few persons could have write access, and that the wiki > owner could consider your request. Well, it's been over two months and the wiki is still read-only. I was under the impression this was supposed to be temporary; when will this be fixed? I often find incorrect information in wiki articles and I'm all-too-frequently frustrated by the fact that I can't fix it. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
El Sunday 11 November 2012 01:16:03 Paul Wise va escriure: > On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote: > > > Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have > > to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users > > only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still > > very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a > > few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly > > forever. Please reconsider this. > > The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam > mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had > time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team. > Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam > stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald. I was marking the pages as spam & puting them for speedy deletion and stoped doing it to create a Perl bot so I can automate the process (lasty it were near a 100 pages daily). I spend some days geting data and training classifiers and geting some vacation for Hallowen (in a place with bad GSM coverage) and after it linuxcon and elce in Barcelona my home town and preparing a Perl course (held the last saturday) with the local mongers had wasted my free time to read the list. The bot is not ready but I have the title off all the pages with some of them clasified to be used as traning or test sets. You can count with my help (be it data or write acces of any kind). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote: > How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd > really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the > mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git, > and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with > OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches' > back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching > to the mediawiki software than I want to think about. Timo made a dump a while ago, I guess you should use his tools: http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/mirror/wiki.openmoko.org/mirror-tools/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 08:16:03AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote: > > > Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have > > to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users > > only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still > > very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a > > few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly > > forever. Please reconsider this. > > The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam > mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had > time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team. > Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam > stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald. > How can I get a database dump of the wiki so I can clone it? What I'd really like to be able to do is run a read-write fork/clone of the mirror, and have the backend database be files in mercurial or git, and then we can have an editable version that I can experiment with OpenID auth with, and possibly have an easy way to merge 'patches' back to the read-only main site. This probably requires more patching to the mediawiki software than I want to think about. I'd also like to be able to put the contents of the OpenMoko wiki on a Wikireader, and having the DB would make this a bit easier. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 18:57 -0500, Harry Prevor wrote: > Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have > to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users > only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still > very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a > few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly > forever. Please reconsider this. The only sysadmin (Harald) doesn't yet have time to setup some anti-spam mechanisms. I've volunteered as a second sysadmin but Harald hasn't had time to do some things that are needed before he can add me to the team. Making the wiki read-only is a stop-gap measure until some anti-spam stuff can be setup and all the spam pages removed by myself or Harald. -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 18:57:39 -0500 Harry Prevor wrote: > On 10/31/12, Harald Welte wrote: > > Hi Paul, > > > > I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still > > today. > > > > Thanks for pointing it out. > > > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > >> Hi Harald, all, > >> > >> To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do > >> so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: > >> > >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges > > Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have > to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users > only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still > very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a > few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly > forever. Please reconsider this. > Neither of the two methods you mention actually stop spam being posted. Humans register and then post the spam. I'm sure that a few persons could have write access, and that the wiki owner could consider your request. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
On 10/31/12, Harald Welte wrote: > Hi Paul, > > I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still > today. > > Thanks for pointing it out. > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >> Hi Harald, all, >> >> To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so >> since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: >> >> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges Sorry for bringing this somewhat old topic up, but why did this have to be done? I can understand restricting editing to registered users only or adding CAPTCHAs to prevent spam, but isn't making the (still very important) wiki entirely read only very exccessive? I've found a few pages with errors but I'm now unable to edit them, seemingly forever. Please reconsider this. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Hi Paul, I put it on my TODO list and will hopefully be able to do it still today. Thanks for pointing it out. On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 04:50:46PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Hi Harald, all, > > To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so > since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: > > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges > > -- > bye, > pabs > > http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ -- - Harald Weltehttp://laforge.gnumonks.org/ "Privacy in residential applications is a desirable marketing option." (ETSI EN 300 175-7 Ch. A6) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko wiki needs to be set to read-only due to spam
Hi Harald, all, To whoever is able to make the OpenMoko wiki read-only, please do so since no-one is monitoring it for spam and removing that: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:RecentChanges -- bye, pabs http://bonedaddy.net/pabs3/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SanDisk SDHC, "Read-only file system" during Yaouh! update
Yoann ARNAUD a écrit : > FAT: Filesystem panic (dev mmcblk0p1) > fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0) > File system has been set read-only Solved with fsck. -- Yoann. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
SanDisk SDHC, "Read-only file system" during Yaouh! update
Hi,
I'm trying to use Yaouh! in order to update my tangogps tiles.
The problem is that my SD card (SanDisk 4Gb), becomes read-only, maybe
because of a lot of writting/reading access. Yaouh! doesn't crash but
actually it doesn't write the downloaded tiles on the file system.
Has everyone experienced such a problem with microSD cards ? Does it
comes from kernel or the card itself ? Should I buy an other microSD
card to solve that ? :)
I can easily reproduce that bug:
- ssh to opemoko in /media/card and execute :
while true
do
sleep 1 && touch test
done
- start Yaouh! and during the "counting tiles" operation, my later
script says :
touch: test: Read-only file system
- dmesg says :
FAT: Filesystem panic (dev mmcblk0p1)
fat_get_cluster: invalid cluster chain (i_pos 0)
File system has been set read-only
Thanks in advance for the help.
--
Yoann.
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Re: read-only?!?
Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: > Andy Green wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Somebody in the thread at some point said: >> | Andy Green wrote: >> |> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a >> |> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline... >> |> that'll be it then. >> |> >> |> - -Andy >> |> >> | I'm stuck with this also... >> | >> | Has a bug been logged? >> | Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms? >> >> This is not a kernel issue, it's something to fix in the rootfs, >> otherwise you have to solve it by changing U-Boot env. >> > Ok... I'll put my manager hat back on... > > Has a bug been logged? > Will a new FILESYSTEM be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms? Good question. Anyone got a url to query existing problem reports? I would have expected it to be on the wiki in a really obvious place. Errr ... u-boot or fstab? I wasn't aware of u-boot overriding standard boot configuration files ... but I could be wrong. I 'imagine' you merely need mount the fs and modify fstab. Sarton ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: read-only?!?
Andy Green wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Somebody in the thread at some point said: > | Andy Green wrote: > |> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a > |> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline... > |> that'll be it then. > |> > |> - -Andy > |> > | I'm stuck with this also... > | > | Has a bug been logged? > | Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms? > > This is not a kernel issue, it's something to fix in the rootfs, > otherwise you have to solve it by changing U-Boot env. > Ok... I'll put my manager hat back on... Has a bug been logged? Will a new FILESYSTEM be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms? :-) -- Alex F. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: read-only?!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green wrote: |> Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a |> workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline... |> that'll be it then. |> |> - -Andy |> | I'm stuck with this also... | | Has a bug been logged? | Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms? This is not a kernel issue, it's something to fix in the rootfs, otherwise you have to solve it by changing U-Boot env. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklLrfsACgkQOjLpvpq7dMo87QCeN+CuRAd86Kha3yj4JlWj1dd1 8aoAnRJGa6Yzjod2xzSEbfgDEdwRGbxz =XoOE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: read-only?!?
Andy Green wrote: > Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a > workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline... > that'll be it then. > > - -Andy > I'm stuck with this also... Has a bug been logged? Will a new kernel be released or are we stuck tweaking u-boot parms? -- Alex F. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: read-only?!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Andy Green schrieb: |> Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello there, | | i |> don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some | |> failures like | | tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus': |> Read-only file system | | this is created for every folder; input, |> bus etc.. so it's normal that | the system couldn't start. but why |> it is a read only file system? i | maked from my other system to |> the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't | read only i think? | |> If this is on a host with uSD -> full size SD adapter, these |> adapters have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to |> the SD Card, they are easy to knock. | |> Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail |> gracefully by becoming read-only. | |> But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used |> some pliers to pinch the plastic so it can no longer move. | |> -Andy | it's a normal micro-sd in my moko, i didn't found a slider.. | | with my last system, it works (om 2008.9, your/andys kernel), but with | om 2008.12 it didn't.. i couldn't belive it that 2008.12 make the fs Aah didn't I read that this new rootfs does not remount / -orw... as a workaround you aren't meant to use ro on the kernel commandline... that'll be it then. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklLfvwACgkQOjLpvpq7dMo+ewCeIQTPYKebdI1zULUs4n4U0jMv ercAnit0OO7TA/9dzIizh91YpxDm8WXu =iB6t -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: read-only?!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andy Green schrieb: > Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello there, | | i > don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some | > failures like | | tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus': > Read-only file system | | this is created for every folder; input, > bus etc.. so it's normal that | the system couldn't start. but why > it is a read only file system? i | maked from my other system to > the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't | read only i think? > > If this is on a host with uSD -> full size SD adapter, these > adapters have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to > the SD Card, they are easy to knock. > > Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail > gracefully by becoming read-only. > > But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used > some pliers to pinch the plastic so it can no longer move. > > -Andy it's a normal micro-sd in my moko, i didn't found a slider.. with my last system, it works (om 2008.9, your/andys kernel), but with om 2008.12 it didn't.. i couldn't belive it that 2008.12 make the fs corruptet, cuase the testing-version had the same problem. could it be a hardware-failure of the sd-card? (also strange, cause it save everything..) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community - -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: <http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklLffQACgkQK9d7OHUJmA4A5gCfUB97ALq6haWu2bKFauLH/14k VoYAn21mpT/TNsm8apjPRhtD2G+wtv+0 =3618 -END PGP SIGNATURE- begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:hers...@puzzle.ch tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: read-only?!?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hello there, | | i don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some | failures like | | tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus': Read-only file system | | this is created for every folder; input, bus etc.. so it's normal that | the system couldn't start. but why it is a read only file system? i | maked from my other system to the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't | read only i think? If this is on a host with uSD -> full size SD adapter, these adapters have a little slider that can be used to disable writes to the SD Card, they are easy to knock. Also if your filesystem is corrupted it can decide to fail gracefully by becoming read-only. But I have managed to knock that little slider so many times I used some pliers to pinch the plastic so it can no longer move. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAklLdCEACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoqgACePVUFeGo+eAI+MbO27/yC5Y9u 2akAniSjEbiot6ZDkoEWNmzAFEcO/d+B =MadW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
read-only?!?
Hello there, i don't know, what's wrong, but i had just in the beginning some failures like tar: cannot create directory 'device/bus': Read-only file system this is created for every folder; input, bus etc.. so it's normal that the system couldn't start. but why it is a read only file system? i maked from my other system to the memorycard a mkfs.ext3 . ext3 isn't read only i think? hope, someone could help me.. greets -- Vinzenz Hersche Lehrling 2. Lehrjahr Puzzle ITC GmbH www.puzzle.ch Telefon +41 31 370 22 00 Direkt +41 31 370 22 04 Mobile +41 78 845 24 12 Fax +41 31 370 22 01 Puzzle ist Mitglied der Eclipse Foundation: <http://www.puzzle.ch/eclipse/> begin:vcard fn:Vinzenz Hersche n:Hersche;Vinzenz email;internet:hers...@puzzle.ch tel;home:033 336 20 56 tel;cell:077 447 73 74 x-mozilla-html:TRUE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
