Re: which SHR image
Thomas Franck wrote: Helge Hafting wrote: [an excellent and helpful text] Wow.. that was thorough... Thank you for that - although I'm past that stage it was very good to read.. Maybe one more thing to ask (as I have no clue): Do you happen to know the difference between the unstable and testing images of SHR..? Not completely sure, but I guess this is like debian: testing: Reasonably rested, but not necessarily release quality. unstable: Newer stuff than in testing. This is where you find the very latest stuff, but untested. Sometimes, unstable stuff doesn't work. So you can test it to see what is coming, but be prepared to revert to testing or some earlier unstable image if it fails badly. Not what you want for a quick upgrade of your daily phone. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Helge, would you be so kind as to copy your text somewhere on the wiki? :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
On Monday 12 January 2009, Helge Hafting wrote: The .tar.gz file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to reflash and start from scratch. It is also the file you want if you are going to run from SD rather than flash. Both of the other two works. The summary file is slightly bigger, but is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so. IIRC the .summary file has some extra filesystem info present that allows it to be mounted faster. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
which SHR image
I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? Regards, Fernando ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:11 AM, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest! :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Fernando Martins wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest is what you want, but of course there are several latest images too. At this time of writing, the latest is dated dec.16 and dec.17. The images dated dec.17 don't seem to be newer, the upload must have happened around midnight. Some of them are described here: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Get Started This describes the difference between the lite image and the image that isn't lite. Basically, lite has fewer apps. So most users don't want lite, unless they want it as a basis for customization. Images with gta02 in them are for the neo freerunner, images with gta01 in them are for the older neo 1973. Images with very short names, such as shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 are just links to images with longer names. See the file sizes to see just which ones. Files with rootfs in their names are root file systems (contains standard linux software and distribution apps). This gives you three files to choose from for a freerunner, assuming you don't want lite: openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz The .tar.gz file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to reflash and start from scratch. Both of the other two works. The summary file is slightly bigger, but is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so. You also need a linux kernel image, in addition to the root file system. Kernel images all start with uImage. The name contain gta01 or gta02, depending on what phone they are for. Simply get the newest that is correct for your phone. You may also want a modules file. If you get one, get the one that matches your kernel. If your kernel has oe03 and gta02 in the name, then so should the module file. The git part of the name should match too. Modules are extra drivers. You don't need them right away, I haven't bothered yet. You may need them if you want to do something slightly unusal, such as connecting USB devices to the phone. module files aren't images for flashing, you unpack them on the phone using linux commands, after you have the SHR image running normally. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Helge Hafting wrote: [an excellent and helpful text] Wow.. that was thorough... Thank you for that - although I'm past that stage it was very good to read.. Maybe one more thing to ask (as I have no clue): Do you happen to know the difference between the unstable and testing images of SHR..? I used to flash the testing images (as linked to by the wiki[1]) but noticed the other folder the other day.. Cheers.. [1] http://shr.bearstech.com/trac/wiki/Get%20Started -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Consultant's Creed If you think *I'm* expensive, wait until you hire an amateur. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: which SHR image
Very much appreciated, thanks. the obvious suggestion for the right person would be to have your reply as a readme file in the folder... Fernando Helge Hafting wrote: Fernando Martins wrote: I would like to try SHR but there are plenty of images in SHR image folder. Which files should I get for flashing? The latest is what you want, but of course there are several latest images too. At this time of writing, the latest is dated dec.16 and dec.17. The images dated dec.17 don't seem to be newer, the upload must have happened around midnight. Some of them are described here: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Get Started This describes the difference between the lite image and the image that isn't lite. Basically, lite has fewer apps. So most users don't want lite, unless they want it as a basis for customization. Images with gta02 in them are for the neo freerunner, images with gta01 in them are for the older neo 1973. Images with very short names, such as shr-image-om-gta02.jffs2 are just links to images with longer names. See the file sizes to see just which ones. Files with rootfs in their names are root file systems (contains standard linux software and distribution apps). This gives you three files to choose from for a freerunner, assuming you don't want lite: openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081216-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2.summary openmoko-shr-image-glibc-ipk--20081215-om-gta02.rootfs.tar.gz The .tar.gz file is not an image for flashing. It is simply an archive with all the files. It is useful in that you can extract the files on a pc easily. You may then copy single files to the freerunner in order to fix a botched customization without having to reflash. If you have customized over several weeks, then perhaps you don't want to reflash and start from scratch. Both of the other two works. The summary file is slightly bigger, but is preferable. I have no idea why - but was told so. You also need a linux kernel image, in addition to the root file system. Kernel images all start with uImage. The name contain gta01 or gta02, depending on what phone they are for. Simply get the newest that is correct for your phone. You may also want a modules file. If you get one, get the one that matches your kernel. If your kernel has oe03 and gta02 in the name, then so should the module file. The git part of the name should match too. Modules are extra drivers. You don't need them right away, I haven't bothered yet. You may need them if you want to do something slightly unusal, such as connecting USB devices to the phone. module files aren't images for flashing, you unpack them on the phone using linux commands, after you have the SHR image running normally. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
