Re: Wrist Computing
On Sunday 30 March 2008 04:56:53 Lally Singh wrote: Thinking of something like: http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000pp=Wearable%2 0Computerspc=411pid=260 I'd love a little wrist mount for an openmoko phone. It'd be a wonderful place to mount it in GPS mode when on a motorcycle. I don't know about you, but I would want the GPS to live in the middle in front of me, not on my wrist which is pretty much out of my normal field of view on a motorbike... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wrist Computing
It's also good for usage with bluetooth keyboard! I think it's a good idea. Not only on a bicycle but also for applications in warehouse where people use a vertical application running on the device and can also be on the phone with an ear piece. Fred On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Lally Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking of something like: http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000pp=Wearable%20Computerspc=411pid=260 http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000pp=Wearable%20Computerspc=411pid=260 I'd love a little wrist mount for an openmoko phone. It'd be a wonderful place to mount it in GPS mode when on a motorcycle. Even otherwise, a great way to quickly look something up. Of course, I'd take it out of the mount to answer the phone :-D Any thoughts? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3 nets
I would like to have an openmoko device (GTA0?) which can access to 3 nets :Internet (email ,VoIP wikipedia etc..),phonenet(3G,GPRS..) and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
On 3/30/08, khang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to have an openmoko device (GTA0?) which can access to 3 nets :Internet (email ,VoIP wikipedia etc..),phonenet(3G,GPRS..) and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? If you'd searched for news articles on Openmoko or the wiki, you would know that GTA02 has a GSM chip for your 'phonenet' and an atheros wifi chip for internet (or you can get internet via GPRS). As for cable.. I doubt it. This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an everything, keep on target please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Am So 30. März 2008 schrieb Nick Guenther: On 3/30/08, khang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an everything, keep on target please. Well I guess there are a lot of cable modems with WLAN. NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Well Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? joerg skrev: Am So 30. März 2008 schrieb Nick Guenther: On 3/30/08, khang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an everything, keep on target please. Well I guess there are a lot of cable modems with WLAN. NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Probably. The neo is roughly about as powered as a zaurus, and I've run mplayer on a zaurus before without too much degradation. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Alexander Frøyseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? joerg skrev: Am So 30. März 2008 schrieb Nick Guenther: On 3/30/08, khang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an everything, keep on target please. Well I guess there are a lot of cable modems with WLAN. NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
su, 2008-03-30 kello 18:19 +0200, Alexander Frøyseth kirjoitti: Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? You can play them on the GTA01 even, if you're willing to transcode the movie to a reasonably low bitrate (while also prerotating it) before watching. For suggested mencoder parameters that I found to provide quite adequate results for a small screen, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player The Freerunner will have accelerated rotation and scaling at least, probably also motion compensation for some formats (or at least I heard about Xvmc work being done at some point on the IRC channel, I believe). Subject to driver development I have the impression that the Glamo chip is able to further accelerate mpeg4 playback, however, what with the beefed up CPU and the hw scaling and rotation one should already be able to play more video files out of the box without crappifying them beforehand as is mostly necessary for the GTA01. (Note that when decoding with the CPU versus a dedicated chip, the battery will generally deplete faster even if the CPU is up to the job, though.) So, umm, yeah; don't expect too much, but at the very least we have decent quality pre-transcoded QVGA video playing _now_ on the GTA01's, so things aren't looking bad from where I'm standing. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - URL:http://www.iki.fi/mjr/ Transhumanist - WTA member - URL:http://www.transhumanism.org/ Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - URL:http://www.singinst.org/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Thanks, for see what happens Mikko Rauhala skrev: su, 2008-03-30 kello 18:19 +0200, Alexander Frøyseth kirjoitti: Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? You can play them on the GTA01 even, if you're willing to transcode the movie to a reasonably low bitrate (while also prerotating it) before watching. For suggested mencoder parameters that I found to provide quite adequate results for a small screen, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player The Freerunner will have accelerated rotation and scaling at least, probably also motion compensation for some formats (or at least I heard about Xvmc work being done at some point on the IRC channel, I believe). Subject to driver development I have the impression that the Glamo chip is able to further accelerate mpeg4 playback, however, what with the beefed up CPU and the hw scaling and rotation one should already be able to play more video files out of the box without crappifying them beforehand as is mostly necessary for the GTA01. (Note that when decoding with the CPU versus a dedicated chip, the battery will generally deplete faster even if the CPU is up to the job, though.) So, umm, yeah; don't expect too much, but at the very least we have decent quality pre-transcoded QVGA video playing _now_ on the GTA01's, so things aren't looking bad from where I'm standing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accelerometer brainstorming
Another idea would be to use the accelerometers as a method of text entry in combination with dasher [1] - similar to this [2]. Could turn out to be a lot easier than using a small on-screen keyboard... [1] http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/ [2] http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher/development/Tilt.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community announcement: poll for Openmoko Community Member of the Week
Great idea, Michael! I don't know how the voting should be handled. However, I want to start with a nomination: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Member_of_the_Week Greetings Sven On Friday 28 March 2008 19:32:22 Michael Shiloh wrote: Dear community, I'd like to initiate a weekly poll for you, our community, to nominate a fellow community member who has contributed substantially to the project, whether an application, a bug fix, testing work, How-To guide, whatever. The intent is clearly to identify and appreciate those of you who have made and continue to make substantial contributions, and also to encourage that extra bit of work required to turn a good application into an excellent one, with a nicely polished GUI, a well written user guide, etc. There is also an important open source philosophical point to this: As I speak at many public events, I am often asked to justify the open source nature of this project, and specifically how the community contributes to the project. I try to keep up with everything you all do, but the amount is so high that I'm sure I'm missing many important contributions. This poll will allow you to bring to my attention work I may have missed. I emphasize that this is not limited to applications or in fact software at all. I'm not sure if it makes more sense to do this on the wiki or the website, but I'd like to try doing this on the wiki first. I think our community is sufficiently honest and respectful that we don't need elaborate checks to make sure people aren't voting more than once. Perhaps all that is needed is a wiki page with a table with 3 columns: Nominator (your name or nickname), nominee (who you are voting for) and reason. At the end of the week the winner gets a T-shirt from http://128333.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/ and a new poll takes place. Thoughts? Can someone set up such a wiki page? Once we iron out the details and the wiki page is set up I'll announce this on the announce list. Thanks, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wrist Computing
On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 5:47 AM, Gabriel Ambuehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 30 March 2008 04:56:53 Lally Singh wrote: Thinking of something like: http://www.eurotech.com/EN/products.aspx?pg=Zypad%20WL%201000pp=Wearable%2 0Computerspc=411pid=260 I'd love a little wrist mount for an openmoko phone. It'd be a wonderful place to mount it in GPS mode when on a motorcycle. I don't know about you, but I would want the GPS to live in the middle in front of me, not on my wrist which is pretty much out of my normal field of view on a motorbike... I see what you mean, but for me it's not something I'd want to tempt myself to look at while the bike's in motion. A quick glance when pulled over or when traffic has stopped is all I'm willing to do. -- H. Lally Singh Ph.D. Candidate, Computer Science Virginia Tech ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Comcast have their top people on it already: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fkzNOEiW4M8 On 30/03/2008, khang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to have an openmoko device (GTA0?) which can access to 3 nets :Internet (email ,VoIP wikipedia etc..),phonenet(3G,GPRS..) and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG The GTAv2 will have a 3D-acceleration chip. :) There are already videos on youtube of the old GTAv1 playing media, so it shouldn't be a problem to do it on the v2 /Oliver ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Network Manager
Hi All, As we know, there are many ways to access Internet in GTA02: - wired:usbnet - wireless:wifi, bluetooth - GSM Is there any daemon or framework OM uses to manage these networks as NetworkManager on PC right now? We are developing a portable media device with usbnet wifi support, I am planning to use NM-0.7 or to develop a daemon for managing the networks. Any idea or comments? Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Network Manager
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Alex, ~It's great to hear you want to use NM-0.7 to develop a daemon for managing the network. In fact we have a project doing such thing, and we are very welcome you join us. :D The project is http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/enlazar/ You may contact with Stefan with the details. Cheers, Tick Alex Zhang 提到: | Hi All, | | As we know, there are many ways to access Internet in GTA02: | - wired:usbnet | - wireless:wifi, bluetooth | - GSM | | Is there any daemon or framework OM uses to manage these networks as NetworkManager on PC right now? | | We are developing a portable media device with usbnet wifi support, I am planning to use NM-0.7 or to develop a daemon for managing the networks. | | Any idea or comments? | | Alex | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFH8GF9PNWONWpVfqoRAjbeAKCHtnr5tRWBK67W7ibBXyix4TAJJwCggJnF flbIACM+dThgqMl+gzunXRc= =YP7R -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Am Mo 31. März 2008 schrieb Oliver Uvman: NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG The GTAv2 will have a 3D-acceleration chip. :) There are already videos on youtube of the old GTAv1 playing media, so it shouldn't be a problem to do it on the v2 /Oliver playing media != IPTV I know of the glamo chip. It will do little to help decode IPTV-style compression realtime AFAIK. As mentioned in this thread before, you have to transcode offline prior to playing it on NEO. Glamo might help to avoid prerotating, but still you have to decode/transcode. jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
