Re: USB Networking
I think the seasiest way is to use wicd, it is much further in development than networkmanager. It doesnt'make any problems with Freerunner. http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
David Pottage wrote: > On Thu, November 27, 2008 7:06 am, Denis Johnson wrote: > > >> ... Preferably using something like http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ (if >> someone knows a Linux equivalent please chime in) >> > > The linux equivalent is cdparanoia. Like EAC it will produce bit > perfect rips of audio CDs. It is a command line program > > If you want a GUI, then you can use Grip. It is a GTK based program > that automates the whole process of ripping, track listing lookups, and > transcoding to your prefered compressed format. If you have a big stack > of CDs to rip, then you can easily sit there using your computer for > other things, and feed in a new CD every few minutes. > > Thanks for everybody's advice. some comments: * Grip is fantastic * Thanks for observing that mp3 -> ogg is lossy, and that I should just delete my mp3s and go from CD -> ogg where possible * It's my Hard drive that doesn't support FLAC! If I used flac, my music library (I guess "mp3 collection" will soon become a misnomer!) would be *enormous*! Yes, I realise it's lossless etc etc, but 320kpbs mp3s are close enough for me. Thanks, -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: python-ctypes and binutils
Hi Andrew! That's exactly what I was looking for! Thanks! - Gunnar Andrew Chu wrote: > Hi Gunnar, > > I'm not sure if this will answer your question or not, but it sounds > like you are looking for the following package: > > http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=binutils-symlinks > > which will create symlinks to the "weird named binaries". > > Cheers, > Andrew > > Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Not sure where to send this - perhaps a more development oriented list? >> >> Anyway, the issue is about python-ctypes, the library for easy access to >> shared libraries from python. This includes a utility class for finding >> the REAL name of a library, i.e. getting from GL to /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 >> >> This code is found here: >> /usr/lib/python2.5/ctypes/util.py >> >> (assuming python-ctypes is installed) >> >> Now this relies in turn on several external tools for finding the >> library (see [1]), in particular ldconfig, gcc and objdump. >> Now ldconfig we have by default, gcc we do not want to install and >> objdump is in the binutils package. Now the binutils package only >> includes weird named binaries for objdump, i.e. >> /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objdump - and this is not found by >> ctypes... >> >> How do we fix this? Can binutils not ship with a /usr/bin/objdump >> symlinked to /usr/bin/arm-angstrom-linux-gnueabi-objdump? >> >> A semi-related question : Say I've written a new .bb file for >> python-opengl. How can I most easily get this put into openembedded? >> >> Cheers, >> >> - Gunnar >> >> [1] http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.2/lib/ctypes-finding-shared-libraries.html >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Gunnar Aastrand Grimnes gunnar.grimnes [AT] dfki.de DFKI GmbH Knowledge Management Trippstadter Strasse 122 D-67663 Kaiserslautern Germany Office: +49 631 205 75-117 Mobile: +49 177 277 4397 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem editing wiki
Hi, I am Openmoko Wiki editor, This problem seems caused by clouldTag extension, now we disabled this function. And while I edit wiki, it's OK now . So it fixed. Please let me know if it OK for you also. Brenda glownan ??: > Thanks! > > > Thomas Franck wrote: > >> Hi.. >> >> >>> I have a problem editing the wiki. >>> [...] >>> Is anyone else experiencing this? >>> Do you know what can be causing it? >>> >> Known problem.. see: >> http://n2.nabble.com/whitespace-going-missing-on-wikipages-td1479519ef1958.html#a1479519 >> >> -- >> Thomas >> >> >> ___ >> Openmoko community mailing list >> community@lists.openmoko.org >> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >> >> >> > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> FLAC *is* compressed, but it's lossless compression, meaning that there |> is no change to the sound when you encode it to FLAC, Whereas when you |> encode to MP3 or ogg, you're losing audio information. | | I'd like to point out also that the CD source is already lossy in that | it is a digital representation of analog signals. Recording companies, | however, compensate for this and work to make the sound output from a CD | player as ideal as possible, About FLAC it's actually really interesting. They do a lossy compression action like most other codecs, but they then decode it and compute an additional "error channel", the difference between what the lossy decoder gives and the original it still has access to at encode time. The error channel is compressed in the gzip type sense and added into the FLAC file along with the lossy encode. The end user FLAC decoder does the lossy decompression and then adds on the error channel to give a lossless result in the end. (Sorry Arne... but it's kind of on-topic you know with the Android image getting recooked for this). - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkv0s8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqLigCeLIEmWJieYNQk6nAGyJawaZSj W50Ani6oPQ0GRWNDkMrHxNjADBvipEjC =7g1J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Best 4.4.2 image?
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Alishams Hassam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have been using qtextended with mwester's kernel as a daily phone. > Using even the "unstable" kernel, ontop of daily phone features (making > and receiving calls, txt msgs, caller id, contacts off sim) it also > suspends/resumes perfect, can play mp3's with the media player (using > the headphones as well), and transfer files to the SD card. Should you > have any problems, you can always switch to the "stable" kernel. > http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html is where you will find the kernels. The > only issue I have had is a missing terminal shortcut when I used the > binary update for 4.4.1 to 4.4.2. Since you're not doing that, it should > be fine :) Hi, I did that, but if while it was still 4.4.1 I got the terminal and hit options at the right stage it will save the terminal into "Favorites". Then when it has been binary updated to version 4.4.2 the terminal is still in Favorites and can be used. clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
> but it's kind of on-topic you know with the Android image > getting recooked for this). now i am confused. care to elaborate? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Problem editing wiki
I tried and its working OK for me as well. Thanks BrendaWang wrote: > > Hi, I am Openmoko Wiki editor, > This problem seems caused by clouldTag extension, now we disabled this > function. > And while I edit wiki, it's OK now . So it fixed. > Please let me know if it OK for you also. > > Brenda > > glownan ??: >> Thanks! >> >> >> Thomas Franck wrote: >> >>> Hi.. >>> >>> I have a problem editing the wiki. [...] Is anyone else experiencing this? Do you know what can be causing it? >>> Known problem.. see: >>> http://n2.nabble.com/whitespace-going-missing-on-wikipages-td1479519ef1958.html#a1479519 >>> >>> -- >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Openmoko community mailing list >>> community@lists.openmoko.org >>> http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Problem-editing-wiki-tp1499011p1588805.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> but it's kind of on-topic you know with the Android image |> getting recooked for this). | | now i am confused. | care to elaborate? http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006894.html - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkv1K8ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMrmPQCfdxdU3PzJUA6ZTa2UqmTuuaGi daQAn025CJT5rJWxTO1nUQWiQRTllZgL =ovml -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
> |> but it's kind of on-topic you know with the Android image > |> getting recooked for this). > | > | now i am confused. > | care to elaborate? > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006894.html well, that's the starting point -- but how is the discussion about flac vs ogg vs wav and loss of analog audio quality while put on cd related to android or openmoko, ie any topic the list is designed for? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:06, Sean McNeil wrote: > ... > I'd like to point out also that the CD source is already lossy in that > it is a digital representation of analog signals. Recording companies, > however, compensate for this and work to make the sound output from > a CD > player as ideal as possible, I understood otherwise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war Google "loudness war" for many other posts on the subject - many of these posts are very readable and are complaints from genuine music- lovers disappointed with deteriorating audio quality on new releases. I don't listen to music so much these days - I've just gotten out of the habit of it, I guess. But I have fond memories of the very early 1990s, when CD was still the medium of audiophile choice, and the argument against vinyl still raged. I would kick back with a Jimi Hendrix remaster and pick out individual instruments to appreciate as part of the whole. Each was pure and remarkable - or perhaps that was just the spliff - but when I read about how the record companies are reducing the dynamic range of the albums they now publish I wonder if the same experience would be possible. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accel digital spirit-level wanted
On 28 Nov 2008, at 07:02, bytestore wrote: > anybody, write programm digital "building" level The English word for this is a digital "spirit level". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_level HTH, Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
Dale Maggee wrote: > Denis Johnson wrote: > >> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> * It's my Hard drive that doesn't support FLAC! If I used flac, my music >>> library (I guess "mp3 collection" will soon become a misnomer!) would be >>> *enormous*! Yes, I realise it's lossless etc etc, but 320kpbs mp3s are >>> close enough for me. >>> >>> >> I understand and agree that from a quality pov MP3 @ 320kpbs is >> sufficient for most, and the amount of space required for your library >> matters, but I was under the impression that FLAC is also a compressed >> format. However I must admit I'm not sure how it compares to MP3 @ >> 320kpbs >> >> cheers Denis >> >> > FLAC *is* compressed, but it's lossless compression, meaning that there > is no change to the sound when you encode it to FLAC, Whereas when you > encode to MP3 or ogg, you're losing audio information. I'd like to point out also that the CD source is already lossy in that it is a digital representation of analog signals. Recording companies, however, compensate for this and work to make the sound output from a CD player as ideal as possible, > Usually it's not > noticable, and the higher bitrate you choose the less you lose, but > there is a difference. Personally, I can't hear the difference between > an audio CD and a 320kbps mp3 on my equipment, but ymmv. > > In terms of file size, FLAC is bigger than 320kbps (not sure exactly how > much bigger, as I don't have much experience with flac, but It's > substantially bigger). If you have unlimited HDD space and really care > about audio quality, FLAC is the way to go. If you want some free HDD > space and decent sounding stuff, 320kbps mp3s (or, more precisely, since > abandoning mp3 is the whole point of the discussion, the ogg equivalent > of a 320kbps mp3 - I haven't figured out how ogg's quality scale thing > works yet) are a very reasonable compromise, and if you can hear the > difference it pretty much means you're a) using expensive equipment and > b) a freak of nature. ;) > > But really it all comes down to personal taste. If you have a nice big > HDD, you might even want to encode everything in FLAC and then re-encode > it at 256kb for burning CDs for use in your car / mp3 player / clock > radio / fridge / whatever... > > -Dale > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian/fso] Re: zhone and sms
please prefix the subject with your distribution! > What should I do make it send after I write the message? dunno. but to help, enable logging to file in framework.conf, open a bug at the fso trac and append the log (remove any private information before, like phone numbers and the sms content). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
with all due respect i'd like to point out that this is now _totally_ off topic (and the issue of loss / lossless compression has been discussed elsewhere in extenso). seeing the huge number of traffic the list generates already it would be very kind of you to discuss the issue of music and compression somewhere else. thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
Denis Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> * It's my Hard drive that doesn't support FLAC! If I used flac, my music >> library (I guess "mp3 collection" will soon become a misnomer!) would be >> *enormous*! Yes, I realise it's lossless etc etc, but 320kpbs mp3s are >> close enough for me. >> > > I understand and agree that from a quality pov MP3 @ 320kpbs is > sufficient for most, and the amount of space required for your library > matters, but I was under the impression that FLAC is also a compressed > format. However I must admit I'm not sure how it compares to MP3 @ > 320kpbs > > cheers Denis > FLAC *is* compressed, but it's lossless compression, meaning that there is no change to the sound when you encode it to FLAC, Whereas when you encode to MP3 or ogg, you're losing audio information. Usually it's not noticable, and the higher bitrate you choose the less you lose, but there is a difference. Personally, I can't hear the difference between an audio CD and a 320kbps mp3 on my equipment, but ymmv. In terms of file size, FLAC is bigger than 320kbps (not sure exactly how much bigger, as I don't have much experience with flac, but It's substantially bigger). If you have unlimited HDD space and really care about audio quality, FLAC is the way to go. If you want some free HDD space and decent sounding stuff, 320kbps mp3s (or, more precisely, since abandoning mp3 is the whole point of the discussion, the ogg equivalent of a 320kbps mp3 - I haven't figured out how ogg's quality scale thing works yet) are a very reasonable compromise, and if you can hear the difference it pretty much means you're a) using expensive equipment and b) a freak of nature. ;) But really it all comes down to personal taste. If you have a nice big HDD, you might even want to encode everything in FLAC and then re-encode it at 256kb for burning CDs for use in your car / mp3 player / clock radio / fridge / whatever... -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
Dale Maggee a écrit : >>> >> I understand and agree that from a quality pov MP3 @ 320kpbs is >> sufficient for most, and the amount of space required for your library >> matters, but I was under the impression that FLAC is also a compressed >> format. However I must admit I'm not sure how it compares to MP3 @ >> 320kpbs >> I compress my music library with FLAC, and noticed that a FLAC file takes approximately half the size of the original WAV file, which means approx 300 Mbytes (most of my albums between 200 and 400). By the way, my hard disk is full, and I'm thinking of burning my FLACs on DVDs, and keep high-quality OGG on my hard drive. My 2 cents. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: |> |> but it's kind of on-topic you know with the Android image |> |> getting recooked for this). |> | |> | now i am confused. |> | care to elaborate? |> |> http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006894.html | | well, that's the starting point -- but how is the discussion about flac vs | ogg vs wav and loss of analog audio quality while put on cd related to | android or openmoko, ie any topic the list is designed for? Sean says he will aim for ogg support in Android, with large SD flac is also interesting for users I think and... on the thread topic... both are allegedly safe patentwise. I agree though a mailing list full of just folks' favourite colours tends to die and lictors serve a function. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkv3wUACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqffwCeNeSjYkHs7i56Vj7Q6hZ/utF4 T14AoIiZyj+9DZeUQOiLNQ7urbBuyiaJ =z9s2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Dale Maggee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * It's my Hard drive that doesn't support FLAC! If I used flac, my music > library (I guess "mp3 collection" will soon become a misnomer!) would be > *enormous*! Yes, I realise it's lossless etc etc, but 320kpbs mp3s are > close enough for me. I understand and agree that from a quality pov MP3 @ 320kpbs is sufficient for most, and the amount of space required for your library matters, but I was under the impression that FLAC is also a compressed format. However I must admit I'm not sure how it compares to MP3 @ 320kpbs cheers Denis ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accel digital spirit-level wanted
:) Many thanks, I did not know Stroller-2 wrote: > > > On 28 Nov 2008, at 07:02, bytestore wrote: >> anybody, write programm digital "building" level > > The English word for this is a digital "spirit level". > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_level > > HTH, > > Stroller. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Accel-digital-%22building%22-level-wanted-tp1588059p1588832.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Norwegian keyboard layout for illume
I have created a Norwegian keyboard layout for the illume on-screen keyboard. The file and screenshots can be found here: http://www.aitel.hist.no/~helgehaf/openmoko/ In addition to Norwegian layout, the keyboard also uses dead keys so a wide range of accents/umlauts can be used. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT]Software patents end? ??:) light at the end of tunnel
Stroller wrote: > On 28 Nov 2008, at 11:06, Sean McNeil wrote: > >> ... >> I'd like to point out also that the CD source is already lossy in that >> it is a digital representation of analog signals. Recording companies, >> however, compensate for this and work to make the sound output from >> a CD >> player as ideal as possible, >> > > I understood otherwise: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war > > Google "loudness war" for many other posts on the subject - many of > these posts are very readable and are complaints from genuine music- > lovers disappointed with deteriorating audio quality on new releases. > > I don't listen to music so much these days - I've just gotten out of > the habit of it, I guess. But I have fond memories of the very early > 1990s, when CD was still the medium of audiophile choice, and the > argument against vinyl still raged. I would kick back with a Jimi > Hendrix remaster and pick out individual instruments to appreciate as > part of the whole. Each was pure and remarkable - or perhaps that was > just the spliff - but when I read about how the record companies are > reducing the dynamic range of the albums they now publish I wonder if > the same experience would be possible. > Ah, now we are talking about opinion of "ideal" ;) Yes, I agree with all you have said, but the interpretation of ideal for record companies is to appeal to the largest body of consumers and they are marketing it that way. Kids want it loud. Back on topic, my point is you are starting with a lossy format to begin with even if you use FLAC. What really matters is how it sounds to an individual and the type of device you are using, quality of headset, etc. With choices, a user can see what he/she can tolerate and determine a reasonable compression to get the most music on a device. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO ms4] Settings?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello All, perhaps I've missed an email on this but I've noticed that the spanner/wrench settings in FSO ms 4 have no effect. I've not tested all settings but some I've tested don't appear to work like the power setting to change the phone suspending. Can't seem to find a GUI for setting the time either has this been removed. I can use the command line of course but just wondering why it would have been removed. Granny don't do bash ;-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJMAuEXlbjSJ5n4BARArg9AJ44dtdO9tnGd+LxB1zUMrIpzfb5wgCfVqJd 31MplFmU8l6K7mrIkRqtf/Y= =22hg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SPAM] Quake III on Nokia devices
Hello everybody =) http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/28/nokia-quake-iii-gains-on-phone-server-bluetooth-keyboard-and-mo/ I wonder if there any way we would get something like this on FR? =) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Quake III on Nokia devices
Am Friday 28 November 2008 16:24:28 schrieb Ivan Shirokoff: > Hello everybody =) > > http://www.engadget.com/2008/11/28/nokia-quake-iii-gains-on-phone-server-bl >uetooth-keyboard-and-mo/ > > I wonder if there any way we would get something like this on FR? =) Unlikely from what I've heard about the glamo. Especially with today's state of drivers, although Graeme was working on a new/better one if I remember correctly. -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian -FSO -GPS] No Fix
I've put milestone 4 back on, and I'm now getting UBX messages in the debug log, so something clearly broke in 4.1 . Took a while (it's raining hard and I'm indoors) but I finally got a fix. Methinks something's broken between 4 and 4.1 - there doesn't appear to be an existing bug for this so I'll stick something on. On Thursday 27 November 2008 09:45:48 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My FSO 4.1 is running the fso-gpsd too. > > The only oddity with mine is that it lives on the SD card. I deliberately > kept everything clean as far as the install goes - I just installed > tangoGPS after installing FSO 4.1, then when the GPS didn't work I did a > opkg update/upgrade on 24th and tried it again, then I enabled logging and > reported on my findings. > > Anyone got any pointers ? I'm a bit of a noob with the freerunner though > I've been sysadmining on Linux for, um, more years than I care to remember > :-) > > On Tuesday 25 November 2008 22:13:08 Julien Cassignol wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:24 PM, glownan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hi, I'm using SHR and having the same problem. > > > > SHR latest image was shipped with gpsd instead of fso-gpsd. > > Just opkg remove --force-depends gpsd; opkg install fso-gpsd and it'll > > work. > > > > Future images will be corrected. -- Antony King - 01908 268 901 Systems Consultant SolutionTrax Technologies - http://www.solutiontrax.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Choosing a distro right now
Hi everyone, I've been happily running QTextended 4.1.0 for a while now, it's quite stable and fast, but I'd like to try a distro using X11 again. How are the others doing, right now? I'm not looking for a milestone release, a snapshot is good, too. I read the SHR doesn't use a PIM at the time, just reads SMSes straight from the sim card. Are the snapshots of 2008.11 any good? How's battery life? etc ... Greetings, Jelle De Loecker ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
microSD issue again
Hi All Who have same problem ? Transcend 2Gb microSD GTA02v6 # mmcinit cmd 0x8, arg 0x1aa flags 0x75 Error after cmd: 0xfffc Card Type: SD Manufacturer: 0x1c, OEM "SV" Product name: "USD ", revision 1.0 Serial number: 167850 Manufacturing date: 2/2007 MMC/SD size:503MiB GTA02v6 # glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8020 mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 3919855 end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 3919856 end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 3919857 end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 3919858 end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 3919859 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x120 glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x4120 After change " glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=1000" anyway still problem. B.R Popov Dmitry ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD issue again
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Hi All | Who have same problem ? | Transcend 2Gb microSD | glamo-mci glamo-mci.0: Error after cmd: 0x8020 | mmcblk0: error -110 sending read/write command | end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 3919855 It's kind of suspicious that this is at byte +2006965760 into the "2GByte" SD Card... it's right at (or beyond) the end... - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkkwLKAACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqlIQCfQrSOam6/E25wmHFD65s+MrUa fF8AniN7rsgwgiGa1F7IIWc2hMENajUO =kfiU -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[FSO ms4] Operator SMS Message problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, this problem arises from another thread that I started "[FSO ms4] GPRS problem on one network" where I'm having problems establishing a GPRS connection to one of the Irish Operators. This problem is not related but found it along the way. I thought at one point that I might be out of credit so was trying to check that I had money in the account to rule that out of the GPRS issue. To try and check my credit I tried to register my phone with the o2.ie web site. Registering the account is a simple process of putting your gsm phone number into a web page, O2 then send an SMS message to that number with a code which you then enter on the web page and that's pretty much it. You then just enter you details. I was typing in my O2 phone number but was not receiving any SMS message. I then pulled the O2 Sim out of the FR and popped it into the old Nokia, filled in the web page again with my phone number and almost instantly the Nokia received a SMS message from the operator. The source number of the SMS message is "00" Ten zeros if my typing is correct. My queston is "is this something that would be worth looking into?" I obviously can't re-register the SIM again but if it is worth looking into I could get another SIM and try again and this time have a look at logread. What can I say I wasn't thinking straight the first time. I never suspected that the phone could be at fault. Must read the jokes page again ;-) Let me know if it's of any interest to solve or if it's already a known issue. Don't remember this problem being reported but there's been so many ;-) I'd be happy to help in testing in so far as I can. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJMD/hXlbjSJ5n4BARAhjiAKCZIAMIPULRXdI3IqW5I4w118dZdQCgzGpy ik8rJ0QB/IGG5tVRQIMPKWc= =IMkx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
In these days many telecom operators are offering USB internet dongles, which can connect to a computer by USB port and allow the computer to access the internet in any place through wireless communications (UMTS, GPRS, etc.). In Italy, all the telecom operators (Vodafone, Tim, 3, etc.) are offering these internet keys. Is it possible to connect this internet keys to the Neo Freerunner and so navigate on internet in any place? What driver/module do we need? Are they available? If it is possible, we can have the Neo always connected to internet, even where there is no WiFi, which is the most of places. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: is FDOM unstable
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 21:18, David Reyes Samblas Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/11/18 Levy A. M. Sant'Anna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>FDOM is so cool >> and have so much potential that I try to use it every day, all the >> apps. > Tanks a lot :) feel free to join the devel list to discuss about > pre-release policy if one day is any :) I am also there, this is the why I am so frightened without a test image. Thanks for FDOM, Levy. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
> the internet in any place through wireless communications (UMTS, GPRS, > etc.). gprs does the fr by itself, umts requires i 3g sim and those are know to be ... uhm ... problematic with the fr, though i don't remember if the recent firmware upgrade for the modem does fix it. > What driver/module do we need? Are they available? you need the same as for your desktop -- check the relevant sources if there are any available. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
A light for the Freerunner
Hello, because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has any improvements for me :D Here you can find a wiki article about the light http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light And here two videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of devices :) At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) Have fun! with kind regards Patrick Beck signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
On Friday 28 November 2008, arne anka wrote: > > the internet in any place through wireless communications (UMTS, GPRS, > > etc.). > > gprs does the fr by itself, umts requires i 3g sim and those are know to > be ... uhm ... problematic with the fr, though i don't remember if the > recent firmware upgrade for the modem does fix it. Only some 3G SIMs are problematic (bug #666), and that seems to have been fixed with the recent gsm firmware update. It now works for my O2 UK SIM anyway. > > What driver/module do we need? Are they available? > > you need the same as for your desktop -- check the relevant sources if > there are any available. There's nothing particularly unusual about the drivers, but many of them start up as usb-storage to provide the Windows driver, then need to be switched over to usb-serial mode to do the comms. This seems to cover most models, but I don't know if it's been tried on ARM yet. http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accel digital spirit-level wanted
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:28:32 -0800 (PST), bytestore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > :) Many thanks, I did not know > > > Stroller-2 wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Nov 2008, at 07:02, bytestore wrote: >>> anybody, write programm digital "building" level >> >> The English word for this is a digital "spirit level". >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_level >> >> HTH, >> >> Stroller. I explored this a couple months ago. My conclusion was that we didn't get enough precision and stability from the accelerometers for this purpose, without smoothing computations I didn't explore. My testing indicated, for example, that if the FR is laying on a 4-foot long shelf, you can raise or lower one end of that shelf by about an inch before being certain via /dev/input/event3 that you've in fact tilted the FR that direction. At about a half-inch it's clear that the values are changing, but the constant low-level fluctuations drown out your certainty, short of quite a bit more work (computationally, smoothing and comparing) than I was interested in putting into the project at the time. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Accel digital spirit-level wanted
On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:17:17 -0500, Joel Newkirk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:28:32 -0800 (PST), bytestore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> :) Many thanks, I did not know >> >> >> Stroller-2 wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 28 Nov 2008, at 07:02, bytestore wrote: anybody, write programm digital "building" level >>> >>> The English word for this is a digital "spirit level". >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_level >>> >>> HTH, >>> >>> Stroller. > > I explored this a couple months ago. My conclusion was that we didn't get > enough precision and stability from the accelerometers for this purpose, > without smoothing computations I didn't explore. My testing indicated, > for > example, that if the FR is laying on a 4-foot long shelf, you can raise or > lower one end of that shelf by about an inch before being certain via > /dev/input/event3 that you've in fact tilted the FR that direction. At > about a half-inch it's clear that the values are changing, but the > constant > low-level fluctuations drown out your certainty, short of quite a bit more > work (computationally, smoothing and comparing) than I was interested in > putting into the project at the time. > > j I tarballed up my work-in-progress. It's a short python program and a couple image files, at http://newkirk.us/om/testing/level.tar.gz - extract, 'python bubble.py' to run, tap screen to exit. (depends on python-pygame) After starting up it calibrates by averaging the first 17 samples it takes, calls that 'level' and proceeds to show deviation from that. Obviously this is useless in the actual use of a spirit level / bubble level, it's set that way for testing. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A light for the Freerunner
I use "flashlight" - turns the screen backlight up to max. Touch to turn off (& return screen to previous setting). Its actually quite bright and useful, and no soldering involved. BillK On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 22:56 +0100, Patrick Beck wrote: > Hello, > > because i like my light on my older phone, a Sony Ericsson W800i, i > added a light on the miniusb - connector. Perhaps anybody like it or has > any improvements for me :D > > Here you can find a wiki article about the light > http://yourse.de/wiki/doku.php?id=openmoko:usb_light > > And here two videos > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5w-OHSm9g > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2H4QZq2xxE > > It was a proof-of-concept and it works! Perhaps Openmoko likes the idea > and adds a light directly into the case in the next generation of > devices :) > > At least manufacutring at one's own risk ;) > > Have fun! > > with kind regards > > Patrick Beck > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
Giovanni <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is it possible to connect this internet keys to the Neo Freerunner and so > navigate on internet in any place? Works fine here. http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/openmoko/3gnettitikku1.jpg > What driver/module do we need? Are they available? The same you need on your PC (usb host support and ppp at least to name a few). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Internet Key on Neo Freerunner?
Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > over to usb-serial mode to do the comms. This seems to cover most models, but > I don't know if it's been tried on ARM yet. Works fine. http://iki.fi/lindi/debian/pool/main/u/usb-modeswitch has an unofficial debian source and binary package. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
