Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Fernando Martins
Martino wrote:
> I think for optimize the low space in the screen that can be usefull 
> have the apps in sub category expandible and reducible (sorry for my 
> bad english.. :( ) like this muck up 
> http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-117305756 
>
> What do yuo think?
>
I like a lot the visuals but I don't see a point in the expand/shrink 
interface. Why would I want to have more than one category open? In 
addition, I can see a lot of scrolling/clicking coming out of this 
interface, to navigate categories/apps. On the other hand, the tabbed 
interface you have on the top right mock-up looks great to me.

Regards,
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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Martino
Thanks to evry body..
@Fernando:
For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category and
take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve using a
favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D

Thanks

2009/3/28 Fernando Martins 

> Martino wrote:
> > I think for optimize the low space in the screen that can be usefull
> > have the apps in sub category expandible and reducible (sorry for my
> > bad english.. :( ) like this muck up
> > http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-117305756
> >
> > What do yuo think?
> >
> I like a lot the visuals but I don't see a point in the expand/shrink
> interface. Why would I want to have more than one category open? In
> addition, I can see a lot of scrolling/clicking coming out of this
> interface, to navigate categories/apps. On the other hand, the tabbed
> interface you have on the top right mock-up looks great to me.
>
> Regards,
> Fernando
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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Fernando Martins
Martino wrote:
> Thanks to evry body..
> @Fernando:
> For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category 
> and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve 
> using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D
>
A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in 
illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed 
interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop 
icons from there into the toolbar.

Regards,
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Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)

2009-03-28 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Saturday 28 March 2009 01:58:34 Łukasz Pankowski wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am the author of Finger friendly alarms [1].  Which I developed for
> Om 2008.12 up to version 0.2.
>
> I am happy to announce version 0.2.1 of ffalarms which adds support
> for SHR (tested on SHR testing) -- for this I ported atd to work on
> top of FSO Framework Time API (called atd-over-fso available from
> ffalarms download page [2]). 

Awesome, that fits nicely in line with fso-gpsd and fso-apm. Would you be 
interested to have the code in the git.freesmartphone.org repository?

:M:

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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread kimaidou
Hi all

I think the Hackable:1 distribution uses a quite efficient and quick way to
organize the applications icons : a "home" screen with only the most used
applications (now dates, contacts, dialer), and another screen with a list
containing the categories. When selecting an item on the list, you get the
filtered icons.

Why not using this kind of menu for other distributions ?

Kimaidou

2009/3/28 Fernando Martins 

> Martino wrote:
> > Thanks to evry body..
> > @Fernando:
> > For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category
> > and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve
> > using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D
> >
> A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in
> illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed
> interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop
> icons from there into the toolbar.
>
> Regards,
> Fernando
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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Martino
@Fernando: Mmm.. I undersatnd.. Yes sure but I thinked at the sub category
vison on the main scree for more coerence at the illume.. In second Illume
has just a similar solution with the large slider ... I don't know If you
understand but my english is very bad..
@Kimaidou: I don't try the hackable:1, how it is the menu? where I can find
some screen shot?
And also I think at similar solution (in the svg there are some test but
nothing good)..


2009/3/28 kimaidou 

> Hi all
>
> I think the Hackable:1 distribution uses a quite efficient and quick way to
> organize the applications icons : a "home" screen with only the most used
> applications (now dates, contacts, dialer), and another screen with a list
> containing the categories. When selecting an item on the list, you get the
> filtered icons.
>
> Why not using this kind of menu for other distributions ?
>
> Kimaidou
>
> 2009/3/28 Fernando Martins 
>
>> Martino wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks to evry body..
>> > @Fernando:
>> > For example can you use frequently some apps from 2 different category
>> > and take open the 2 category (but I know the problem can be solve
>> > using a favorite category..).. It' only an idea.. :D
>> >
>> A favorites is nice but I would like to have a sliding toolbar (like in
>> illume config) where the common apps are shown as icons. Then the tabbed
>> interface would show the full collection and allow me to drag and drop
>> icons from there into the toolbar.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Fernando
>>
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Re: ffalarms 0.2.1 and atd-over-fso (now works on SHR-testing)

2009-03-28 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 28 March 2009 01:58:34 schrieb Łukasz Pankowski:
> Hello
>
> I am the author of Finger friendly alarms [1].  Which I developed for
> Om 2008.12 up to version 0.2.
>
> I am happy to announce version 0.2.1 of ffalarms which adds support
> for SHR (tested on SHR testing) -- for this I ported atd to work on
> top of FSO Framework Time API (called atd-over-fso available from
> ffalarms download page [2]).  Version 0.2 also fixes Daylight Saving
> Time problem and adds several minor improvements, see [3] for
> installation instructions and detailed changes and [2] for downloads.
>
> Please report any problems or possible improvements (those may take
> long time to come :)).
>
> [1] http://ffalarms.projects.openmoko.org/
> [2] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=260
> [3] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=488

Hey Łukasz,

first: you've built a nice gui there :)
But I've got some problem: I'm using Debian (which somehow has an atd on my 
desktop system but I cannot find it in the repositories...) and am happy to 
hear you made a(n?) fso wrapper. Having extracted the binary and initscript 
from the ipkg by hand, I get this message on starting atd:

d-a318:~# DISPLAY=:0 atd /var/spool/at/
Error: Connection ":1.57" is not allowed to own the 
service "org.openmoko.projects.ffalarms.atd" due to security policies in the 
configuration file

[added the DISPLAY-variable because I suspected x forwarding to mess something 
up there]
Which config file do I have to change and what would these changes look like?

I'd be really happy having an actually working alarms app for the Neo, thanks 
for your work! :)

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Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode

2009-03-28 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:21:59AM +0800, Qingyou Meng wrote:

> To set brightness: write (brightness_percent / 100 * 255) to file
> "/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness"

   I think that's why you get so high currents. This

# echo >/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness 0

doesn't do what you hope it does. You should try

# echo 
>/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.9/glamo3362.0/glamo-spi-gpio.0/spi2.0/state
 sleep

also. A shorthand for that file is /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state. When
the display isn't blanked, it reads 'normal'.

   But, IMHO, consider using a higher-level interface (such as
freesmartphone.org) to turn off the display instead of trying to find all
the places to mess with under /sys yourself.

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[SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?

2009-03-28 Thread George Brooke
Hi,
I've just got a new freerunner (I've been lurking on this list for a while but 
only just got a FR) and I'm using SHR unstable, the only problem (so far) that 
I've come across is that even on the silent profile there is not way to make 
the phone vibrate briefly when a new SMS arrives does anyone know of  a way to 
do this?

Thanks

solar.george


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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Fernando Martins
Martino wrote:
> @Fernando: Mmm.. I undersatnd.. Yes sure but I thinked at the sub 
> category vison on the main scree for more coerence at the illume.. In 
> second Illume has just a similar solution with the large slider ... I 
> don't know If you understand but my english is very bad..
I'm afraid I don't follow you. Maybe you could post in Italian (I guess 
it's your language) and post also an automatic English translation (e.g. 
using translate.google.nl).

Some other remarks, merely my very subjective opinion:
- in the first picture, I don't like so much the layout of the top bar. 
The bar doesn't look so elegant, as the rest of the design, because:
-- it looks  un-organised with wasted space. I suppose the two icons on 
top left represent running applications. I would rather have mini-icos 
representing running applications, fit next to the already existing 
min-icons, without a need to expand de top bar.
-- IMHO, the notification/info mini icons should also never move (they 
went down with the expansion). They should provide a sense of 
stability/anchor to the interface.

BTW, what would your interface do when a category has more icons than 
can be fitted in one line? Would it work like a horizontal scrollbar or 
would the area expand vertically to fit all icons, or...

I hope I'm not making you loose motivation with my challenges. I really 
like the visuals and it looks a clean, elegant and intuitive interface. 
I would love to have something along those lines in my FR.

Regards,
Fernando

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Re: [SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?

2009-03-28 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 28 March 2009 15:16:21 schrieb George Brooke:
> Hi,
> I've just got a new freerunner (I've been lurking on this list for a while
> but only just got a FR) and I'm using SHR unstable, the only problem (so
> far) that I've come across is that even on the silent profile there is not
> way to make the phone vibrate briefly when a new SMS arrives does anyone
> know of  a way to do this?
>
> Thanks
>
> solar.george

I'm not really into the daemon, but if such a signal exists you could tell 
fso-frameworkd in /etc/frameworkd.conf (iirc) that it should vibrate on new 
sms. At least the ringtone is also configured there (iirc again, cannot look 
myself atm).

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Re: [SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?

2009-03-28 Thread The Digital Pioneer
There might be some magic you can pull in rules.yaml. Not sure, I'm not
particularly familiar with that file, but when I was browsing through it, it
appeared that it handled such things. I don't remember the whole path to it,
but it's in /etc somewhere... :P
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projects.openmoko.org not reliable

2009-03-28 Thread Leonti Bielski
Hello!
Sometimes I can't open http://projects.openmoko.org/
At the same time http://planet.openmoko.org works every time.

Is it only my provider or there is something wrong with openmoko.org site?

Leonti

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Re: projects.openmoko.org not reliable

2009-03-28 Thread Leonti Bielski
Just tried it using anonymizer site - it works.
I guess the problem is my provider. Weird though.

Leonti

On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Leonti Bielski  wrote:
> Hello!
> Sometimes I can't open http://projects.openmoko.org/
> At the same time http://planet.openmoko.org works every time.
>
> Is it only my provider or there is something wrong with openmoko.org site?
>
> Leonti
>

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Wiki: Permission denied?

2009-03-28 Thread Toni Mueller

Hello,

while trying to read the wiki, I _often_ get permission denied. Eg.
here:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot

Go to the lower half of that page, and click on "Boot from microSD".
The link is
http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Boot_from_sd_card&action=edit
which I take as meaning that the target page has been removed. I saw
such a page recently, though I can't say whether it was this, or
another page.

Similar things actually happen all over the place. :-(


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Re: Wiki: Permission denied?

2009-03-28 Thread Marcel
Am Saturday 28 March 2009 17:16:26 schrieb Toni Mueller:
> Hello,
>
> while trying to read the wiki, I _often_ get permission denied. Eg.
> here:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Boot
>
> Go to the lower half of that page, and click on "Boot from microSD".
> The link is
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Boot_from_sd_card&action=edit
> which I take as meaning that the target page has been removed. I saw
> such a page recently, though I can't say whether it was this, or
> another page.
>
> Similar things actually happen all over the place. :-(

http://wiki.openmoko.org/index.php?title=Boot_from_sd_card&action=edit
Noticed that "&action=edit" in the link? You try to edit the page 
Boot_from_sd_card and you're not allowed to do that without being logged in. 
Afaik. Try without &action=edit, that should work.
In this case the edit is appended to the url because the page does not exist 
yet (fat red link instead of normal orange one) and therefore editing it to 
fill it with content is the only option. One just created the link without 
writing the page.

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Re: [debian] preferred working kernel at the moment?

2009-03-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Fox Mulder  writes:
> i wonder which kernel is the "best" or lets say the most stable and
> working für debian at the moment. Since i upgraded from the last 2.6.24
> kernels to the 2.6.28/29 i have more problems than benefits. :/

I have tested andy-tracking b8b36e5ec3db71d for a long time and it
seems to be quite stable.

> The really big improvment from 2.6.24->2.6.28/29 is that the standby
> time has improved really much. With this i can firstly carry the phone

What's the contents of the current_now file in /sys in both cases
immediately after resume?

> problem is that after suspend the backlight mechanism doesn't recognize
> a touch on the screen anymore. Therefor after it dims and gets dark it

That sounds really really odd. Can you reproduce this without having
frameworkd running (it tries to control backlight too)?

Which X server are you running?

> Another problem is that the memory consumption on debian is much higher
> and the system responsiveness is much slower than before. But this could
> also be a problem of other system components which are updated on a
> regular basis.

ps -eorss,cmd | sort -n?

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Re: graphical nethack for freerunner (alpha version released)

2009-03-28 Thread giacomo "giotti" mariani

>> http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/
>> Warnign: Not yet playable!
>> 
> Hi Giacomo,
> Actually, I think you can help me. Take one screenshot and start Gimp.
> Make decise, is it portrait or landscaped (fullscreen / default
> statusbar). Cut and paste elements. Use text tool and check different
> fontsizes. Count number of commands. Maybe do some sorting for
> commands, which must be always visible, which are in some dropdown
> menu. (or toggleable toolbar rows?). How menus are used? How small
> command-icon we can use?
>
>
>   
Hi Aapo,
I will do something (I'm not good in graphic, again sorry) as soon as I 
can.
I can tell what I think now:
i)   portrait is better;
ii)  full-screen is better (see iv));
iii) I've found  some interesting screen-shots [2] that are similar to 
[1] and improve the playable area;
iv) the win-ce specific area (last row in [2]) can be used for 
frequently used commands 
   (I suggest: quit, save, throw, zap, look, loot and someone 
else... );
v)  about  menu I think that pop-ups like  [3] are the best solution;
vi) it would be nice to resize fonts in both menus and dialog (if possible).
> btw: Is there way to tune scrollbars width in one program only or it
> is binded to theme? Because nethack is not for finger, one must use
> stylus. So we need more space and narrow scrollbars.
>
>
>   
I agree with you, but I don't know the answer.sorry.

> -Aapo Rantalainen
>   

Cheers
Giacomo

[1]
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/portrait1.png
[2]
http://www.pocketpc-spiele.de/nethack.gif
http://static.sftcdn.net/it/scrn/2/20236/3_netppc_02.jpg
[3]
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/landscape_inventory.png
http://cc.oulu.fi/~rantalai/freerunner/nethack/landscape_menu.png
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Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode

2009-03-28 Thread mqy

Hi,

Thanks a lot!

With "echo > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state sleep", the current drops 
from 82.125 mA to 81.562 mA within 10 minutes. The battery is fully charged 
before test.

My kernel:
# uname -a
Linux om-gta02 2.6.28-rc4 #1 PREEMPT Sun Feb 8 19:53:16 CET 2009 armv4tl unknown

Before read your reply, I get nothing by removing SD card, ifdown usb0, power 
off backlight.

Here is the new script I used:

#!/bin/bash

# for exit SSH shell, unplug USB
sleep 5 

# strange, 1 to power of backlight
echo > /sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/bl_power 1

echo > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state sleep

for ((i=0; i<20; i++)); do
  echo "i = $i:"
  cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/{current_now,capacity,voltage_now}
  sleep 30 
done

echo > /sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/bl_power 0
echo > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state normal

But comparing to your ~50 mA, 82 mA is still too large :)

Could anybody who has latest SHR installation on GTA02, give a test to verify?

Before start this script, please make sure:
1. `/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron` output 0, else you can 
echo 0 into it.
2. disable GSM/WIFI/Bluetooth in SHR settings
3. SSH to FR through USB if you haven't connect to it.
4. stop /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm, /etc/init.d/frameworkd
5. killall batget; killall wakerd;
6. start the above script, e.g. `power.sh > output_power.txt &` , exit SSH 
shell, unplug USB

10 minutes later, you can plug USB and SSH into FR again. If you can't wait for 
10 minutes, 
modify "sleep 30" to "sleep 5" or something else.

I'd like to say "thank you" to Rask Ingemann Lambertsen again :)


On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:21:59AM +0800, Qingyou Meng wrote:

> To set brightness: write (brightness_percent / 100 * 255) to file
> "/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness"

   I think that's why you get so high currents. This

# echo >/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness 0

doesn't do what you hope it does. You should try

# echo 
>/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.9/glamo3362.0/glamo-spi-gpio.0/spi2.0/state
 sleep

also. A shorthand for that file is /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state. When
the display isn't blanked, it reads 'normal'.

   But, IMHO, consider using a higher-level interface (such as
freesmartphone.org) to turn off the display instead of trying to find all
the places to mess with under /sys yourself.

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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Martino
 Yes I must study hard english... :P

At first I'm not loose my motivation on the contrary I want people tall me
wath is wrong or could be better..

The first picture is an old muck up and the style isn't very good.. Yes the
mini icons are the running apps.. I'll go to improve the space ottimization
and the notifycation ..

The second interface is composed by 2 parts.. One about the apps
organization and a second around the notification system... (the keyboard is
only a clone of the cupcake android kbd)

The organization in category is IMHO the simply way to don't show all the
apps on the desk without loose the original (minimal and great) idea of
illume.. Of course when the category have more icons it use more raw ..

The idea that I think usefull around the notification system is to give more
highlights at the notification manager.. Or rather when you want to see all
the notifications can appeare a window with all of this and the rest of the
desktop become more dark...




2009/3/28 Fernando Martins 

> Martino wrote:
> > @Fernando: Mmm.. I undersatnd.. Yes sure but I thinked at the sub
> > category vison on the main scree for more coerence at the illume.. In
> > second Illume has just a similar solution with the large slider ... I
> > don't know If you understand but my english is very bad..
> I'm afraid I don't follow you. Maybe you could post in Italian (I guess
> it's your language) and post also an automatic English translation (e.g.
> using translate.google.nl).
>
> Some other remarks, merely my very subjective opinion:
> - in the first picture, I don't like so much the layout of the top bar.
> The bar doesn't look so elegant, as the rest of the design, because:
> -- it looks  un-organised with wasted space. I suppose the two icons on
> top left represent running applications. I would rather have mini-icos
> representing running applications, fit next to the already existing
> min-icons, without a need to expand de top bar.
> -- IMHO, the notification/info mini icons should also never move (they
> went down with the expansion). They should provide a sense of
> stability/anchor to the interface.
>
> BTW, what would your interface do when a category has more icons than
> can be fitted in one line? Would it work like a horizontal scrollbar or
> would the area expand vertically to fit all icons, or...
>
> I hope I'm not making you loose motivation with my challenges. I really
> like the visuals and it looks a clean, elegant and intuitive interface.
> I would love to have something along those lines in my FR.
>
> Regards,
> Fernando
>
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Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode

2009-03-28 Thread Richard Kralovic
Hello,

> With "echo > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state sleep", the current drops 
> from 82.125 mA to 81.562 mA within 10 minutes. The battery is fully charged 
> before test.
> 
> My kernel:
> # uname -a
> Linux om-gta02 2.6.28-rc4 #1 PREEMPT Sun Feb 8 19:53:16 CET 2009 armv4tl 
> unknown

It may be the case that the fixes for the current leak were introduced
in devel branch (linux-openmoko-devel). On kernel 2.6.29-rc3, my tests
show a drop from cca 80mA to cca 47mA.

Richard

> 
> Before read your reply, I get nothing by removing SD card, ifdown usb0, power 
> off backlight.
> 
> Here is the new script I used:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> 
> # for exit SSH shell, unplug USB
> sleep 5 
> 
> # strange, 1 to power of backlight
> echo > /sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/bl_power 1
> 
> echo > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state sleep
> 
> for ((i=0; i<20; i++)); do
>   echo "i = $i:"
>   cat /sys/class/power_supply/battery/{current_now,capacity,voltage_now}
>   sleep 30 
> done
> 
> echo > /sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/bl_power 0
> echo > /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state normal
> 
> But comparing to your ~50 mA, 82 mA is still too large :)
> 
> Could anybody who has latest SHR installation on GTA02, give a test to verify?
> 
> Before start this script, please make sure:
> 1. `/sys/bus/platform/devices/neo1973-pm-gps.0/pwron` output 0, else you can 
> echo 0 into it.
> 2. disable GSM/WIFI/Bluetooth in SHR settings
> 3. SSH to FR through USB if you haven't connect to it.
> 4. stop /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm, /etc/init.d/frameworkd
> 5. killall batget; killall wakerd;
> 6. start the above script, e.g. `power.sh > output_power.txt &` , exit SSH 
> shell, unplug USB
> 
> 10 minutes later, you can plug USB and SSH into FR again. If you can't wait 
> for 10 minutes, 
> modify "sleep 30" to "sleep 5" or something else.
> 
> I'd like to say "thank you" to Rask Ingemann Lambertsen again :)
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 05:21:59AM +0800, Qingyou Meng wrote:
> 
>> To set brightness: write (brightness_percent / 100 * 255) to file
>> "/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness"
> 
>I think that's why you get so high currents. This
> 
> # echo >/sys/class/backlight/gta02-bl/brightness 0
> 
> doesn't do what you hope it does. You should try
> 
> # echo 
> >/sys/class/i2c-adapter/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-regltr.9/glamo3362.0/glamo-spi-gpio.0/spi2.0/state
>  sleep
> 
> also. A shorthand for that file is /sys/bus/spi/devices/spi2.0/state. When
> the display isn't blanked, it reads 'normal'.
> 
>But, IMHO, consider using a higher-level interface (such as
> freesmartphone.org) to turn off the display instead of trying to find all
> the places to mess with under /sys yourself.
> 


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Re: Simple touching test (maybe someday multitouch test)

2009-03-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Aapo Rantalainen  writes:
> It is gtk program which prints
> 1) mouse location
> 2) mouse button press (and its location)
> 3) mouse button release (and its location)

Hmm, isn't this what xev already does? It also supports timestamps.


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Re: [SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?

2009-03-28 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Latest frameworkd (from few days ago) has message-vibration support
added. You should try it ;)

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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Launcher from Hackable:1 is simply that old one from Om2007.2.

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Re: [SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?

2009-03-28 Thread George Brooke
How would I do that - does it mean changing to an FSO distro?

solar.george

On Saturday 28 March 2009 20:19:02 Johny Tenfinger wrote:
> Latest frameworkd (from few days ago) has message-vibration support
> added. You should try it ;)
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Re: [SHR unstable] Vibrate on new message?

2009-03-28 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Unless I'm completely insane, I believe SHR is an FSO distro.
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opkg unhold

2009-03-28 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Hi. I flagged a couple packages for hold in opkg, and now I want to remove
that flag. How do I do that? I can't find any info on it, which means it
must be glaringly obvious, but I sure can't figure it out :\

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Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode

2009-03-28 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Rask Ingemann Lambertsen  writes:
> sleep 120 && cat 
> /sys/class/power_supply/battery/{status,current_now,voltage_now,capacity}

Interestingly I get

Discharging
73125
4126000
100

with andy-tracking b8b36e5ec3db


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Re: test result of battery current against display brightness and GPS power mode

2009-03-28 Thread Rask Ingemann Lambertsen
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 07:32:24PM +0100, Richard Kralovic wrote:
> 
> It may be the case that the fixes for the current leak were introduced
> in devel branch (linux-openmoko-devel). On kernel 2.6.29-rc3, my tests
> show a drop from cca 80mA to cca 47mA.

   Do you know which git revision that kernel is? Alternatively, where did
you get that kernel from?

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Re: Organize the desktop in sub category..

2009-03-28 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
For illume based distros you have shortdesk to organize the icons, it
works pretty well and is highly costumizable
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/sortdesk/ or
http://www.opkg.org/package_95.html

old screen shot of shortdesk in action thanks to costumizer kustomizer,
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Image:Kustomizer-home.png

now has improved default icons
http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/topic,1079.0.html

2009/3/28 Martino :
> I think for optimize the low space in the screen that can be usefull have
> the apps in sub category expandible and reducible (sorry for my bad
> english.. :( ) like this muck up
> http://mandarancio.deviantart.com/art/Around-mobile-interface-117305756
>
> What do yuo think?
>
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Kernel git repository branch name understanding-- Help!

2009-03-28 Thread Daniel.Li
It seems that I have sent the wrong list, resend it again.

Dear List,

I have found that there are lots of branches in repository, see below:
  origin/HEAD
  origin/andy-tracking
  origin/andy-tracking-nohist
  origin/balaji-tracking
  origin/drm-tracking
  origin/master
  origin/master-nohist
  origin/mokopatches-tracking
  origin/mokopatches-tracking-nohist
  origin/pending-tracking
  origin/pending-tracking-nohist
  origin/proposed
  origin/stable
  origin/stable-tracking
  origin/stable-tracking-nohist

I always use andy-tracking branch, which is supposed to be the latest,
but he has left. Well, I'm quite confused which one is right for me
now. 

Or maybe I have missed something, which is discussed earlier, if so, a
link is really appreciated.

Or can anyone help to let me know how to recognize those branches. From
the above branch names, I just can tell there might be personal/stable
branches. But I can't tell what's the version of kernel 2.6.24/2.6.29/
bla... bla...

So I have following questions on current branches:
a) What's kernel version in those branches 2.6.24/2.6.29/others...?

b) Which one is the main developing branch, where all personal branches
will be merged to by maintainer, might be someone from openmoko???

c) Current branch names and their classifications:
personal-tracking/developing/stable

My understanding of branches, but I don't have any idea about others:
Personal-tracking branches:
  origin/andy-tracking
  origin/andy-tracking-nohist
  origin/balaji-tracking
  origin/drm-tracking
stable branches:
  origin/stable
  origin/stable-tracking
  origin/stable-tracking-nohist

d)What's the difference between stable/stable-tracking/stable
tracking-nohist.

Note: Later stable tracking and stable-tracking-nohist (no commit
history)???!!!???!


Well, if I'm wrong, please correct me. As I just wanna keep an eye on
just 1~2 branches, suitable for me. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Kernel git repository branch name understanding-- Help!

2009-03-28 Thread Nelson Castillo
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 8:26 PM, Daniel.Li  wrote:
> It seems that I have sent the wrong list, resend it again.

What a cross-post! It's a weekend. Relax :-)

> Dear List,
>
> I have found that there are lots of branches in repository, see below:
>  origin/HEAD
>  origin/andy-tracking
>  origin/andy-tracking-nohist
>  origin/balaji-tracking
>  origin/drm-tracking
>  origin/master
>  origin/master-nohist
>  origin/mokopatches-tracking
>  origin/mokopatches-tracking-nohist
>  origin/pending-tracking
>  origin/pending-tracking-nohist
>  origin/proposed
>  origin/stable
>  origin/stable-tracking
>  origin/stable-tracking-nohist
>
> I always use andy-tracking branch, which is supposed to be the latest,
> but he has left. Well, I'm quite confused which one is right for me
> now.
> Or maybe I have missed something, which is discussed earlier, if so, a
> link is really appreciated.

Check this out:

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Kernel_branches
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2008-November/006945.html

It seems a new stable kernel might be forked from andy-tracking soon.
I guess you will be on the safe side watching andy-tracking until
something changes (The branch policy might be changed). Werner and
collaborators who are more experienced in Git than we are have made a
few suggestions.

Stay tuned in the kernel list in case a change gets implemented.

Nelson.-

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Re: [All] Suggested IMAP client?

2009-03-28 Thread Josh Thompson
I wrote a very basic imap mail reader (can't compose messages yet) app in 
python/GTK.  You can find a little more about it here:

http://people.engr.ncsu.edu/jfthomps/freerunner/

It starts with a screen listing all of the configured imap servers.  Clicking 
on one changes the window to be a display of all of your mail folders on that 
server.  Clicking on a folder changes the window to be a display listing the 
messages in the folder (from/subject/date).  Clicking on a message changes 
the window to display the message body.  There's a back button that is always 
displayed at the top that lets you go back to the previous screen.

I don't have much time to develop right now, but if there is anyone else that 
would like to take what I started and add some more features to it, I'll 
apply to get it started at projects.openmoko.org.

Josh

On Mon March 23 2009 7:12:40 am Jan Keymeulen wrote:
> On Sat 21 March 2009 om 07:36:52 GMT William Kenworthy told us:
> > Yes, this would be nice.  In the meantime, Ive fallen back to
> > squirrelmail on my webserver and midori to read it on the FR.  Works ok,
> > but is there a better webmail more suited to a small screen?
>
> I use MIMP, part of the Horde framework. http://www.horde.org/mimp/
>
> However, a real mail client would be vey nice.
>
> > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 17:29 -0400, Cameron Frazier wrote:
> > > As per the subject, is there a suggested IMAP client for the FR? I'm
> > > using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable
> > > question for all distros.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Cameron

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trouble update with tangoGPS, any idea?

2009-03-28 Thread Daniel.Li
Dear List,

I'm trying to update tangoGPS with latest version. So I followed
http://www.tangogps.org/gps/articles/7-Installation.html 

And found below errors, I can ping downloads.freesmartphone.org.

How can I fix the problem? Any idea?

r...@om-gta02:~# pkill packagekit
r...@om-gta02:~# opkg update
Downloading
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//all/Packages.gz
Inflating
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//all/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/om-dev-all
Downloading
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz
Downloading
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4t/Packages.gz
Inflating
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4t/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/om-dev-armv4t
Downloading
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//om-gta02/Packages.gz
Inflating
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//om-gta02/Packages.gz
Updated list of available packages in /var/lib/opkg/om-dev-om-gta02
Collected errors:
 * Failed to download
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-milestone5/feeds//armv4/Packages.gz, 
error 404

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