Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-18 Thread Davide Scaini
on Fr now... so i'll be short.
i installed navit-dev and now it runs! i can see my actual position
but unfortunately no map under. [i have downloaded the entire Italy
from planet osm. i get no errors but no maps ... step by step i'll
win]
thanks guys for your help
d


On 7/17/09, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak  wrote:
> On 7/17/09, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>> tried all:
>> - installed shr on a big sd card
>> - installed navit first form opkg repos
>> - tried navit -> no result
>> - modified navit.xml with internal gui -> no result
>> - export NAVIT_LIBDIR=/usr/lib/ -> no result
>> - installed latest navit -> no result
>> get the very same error (???)
>> d
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Davide Scaini  wrote:
>>
>>> @Kazer:
>>> ok, so your advice is to download the latest navit instead of the one
>>> that
>>> comes with shr-u?
>>> thanks for your detailed reply ;-)
>>> d
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 2:29 PM, KaZeR  wrote:
>>>

 I would recommend copying navit.xml to /home/root/.navit, because a
 package
 upgrade could overwrite it. And it's a good idea to diff your xml
 against
 the shipped one for updates from time to time.

 Also, opkg's memory leak (or whatever was making it to eat 100% cpu and
 memory) has been fixed (at least in SHR-unstable) so now it's again easy
 to
 use navit's daily builds from http://download.navit-project.org/navit/
 (where the current revision is around 2395 i believe).

 Davide : if navit says that no gui can be loaded, then either it cannot
 find
 the .so files (can be because of a wrong NAVIT_LIBDIR variable) or that
 you
 choosed a gui that isn't available (not built) from your navit.xml.

 Recent packages of navit include a better config sample for the Neo
 (internal, with better settings for icon_xs and co). I can share my
 navit.xml if needed.
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>
> Did you install navit-dev? ... It provides symlinks which navit tries
> to use. You can also tweak config, but that's little more difficult.
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the joys of GSM devices you don't control, part 6438

2009-07-18 Thread Tom Yates
i haven't seen any mention of this on here yet, and it came from the 
latest SANS newsbytes (v11 n56).  it gave me a grin to think of yet 
another thing i don't have to worry about as an openmoko user, because my 
GSM device is entirely under my control, and i can inspect the source for 
everything i run, if i want to.



  --Blackberry Update Found to Contain Spyware
(July 14, 2009)
A United Arab Emirates service provider pushed out a BlackBerry update
that contains spyware capable of intercepting users email and text
messages and sending them back to the server. The
performance-enhancement patch was sent as a WAP Push message to 100,000
users. Its spyware capabilities were discovered only after one user took
a closer look at the update because it appeared to be draining the
devices battery. The battery was being drained because the application
was trying to register with a central server that became overwhelmed
with the traffic, so the devices repeatedly tried to make contact.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/14/blackberry_snooping/
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/07/blackberry-spies/



-- 

   Tom Yates  -  http://www.teaparty.net

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Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-18 Thread Robin Paulson
2009/7/18 Davide Scaini :
> on Fr now... so i'll be short.
> i installed navit-dev and now it runs! i can see my actual position
> but unfortunately no map under. [i have downloaded the entire Italy
> from planet osm. i get no errors but no maps ... step by step i'll
> win]
> thanks guys for your help

you need to make sure the map is being loaded. there's a config file
in the amps directory, or an option in the settings

did you download a .osm file? or a navit .bin file ? they're two
different methods of storing the data, although one can be processed
to the other

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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
Warren Baird  writes:
> What are your successes with the Freerunner?

I love how easy it is to do quick application development.

For example, last week I was in Norway and suddenly figured out that
all the hiking maps have UTM coordinates which I know nothing
about. The following was done in a car with the xvkbd virtual keyboard
on debian. (A real physical keyboard would probably have saved some
time).

1) 15 minutes to google what UTM is with the elinks browser over GPRS.

2) 15 minutes to figure out that debian has a package called 'proj'
   (Cartographic projection filter and library) that I can use to do
   the conversion. I installed this package first on my server over
   SSH so that I can test it before downloading it to my phone.

3) 15 minutes to read the man page of proj and write a simple script
   that converts latitude/longtitude to UTM x/y coordinates:

$ cat ~/bin/utm
#/bin/sh
lat="$1" # 60
lon="$2"
lon_0="$3"
echo $lat $lon |proj +proj=utm -r +ellps=WGS84 +lon_0=$lon_0

4) 10 minutes to read the man page again to really understand what an
   earth is going on and compare the results against a paper map :-)

5) 10 minutes to write a helper that fetches current position from GPS
   and shows it in UTM coordinates:

$ cat ~/bin/utm-show
#!/usr/bin/perl

my $ret = `gps-get-position`;
#my $ret = "70.175485000 24.903566833";
chomp($ret);
my ($lat, $lon) = split(/[ \t]+/, $ret);
$ret = `utm $lat $lon 29`;
chomp($ret);
my ($x, $y) = split(/[ \t]+/, $ret);
printf("%02.1f\n%02.1f\n",
   ($x % 10) / 1000.0,
   ($y % 10) / 1000.0);

6) 10 minutes to write a very simple helper that shows the UTM
   coordinates with xmessage in fullscreen and has two buttons, one to
   get new position from GPS and one to quit.

$ cat ~/bin/xutm-show
#!/bin/sh
while true; do
xmessage -fn '-*-clean-*-*-*-*-*-1600-*-*-*-*-*-*' -geometry 480x640+0+0 
-buttons r,q "`utm-show`"
ret="$?"
if [ "$ret" = "101" ]; then
continue
fi
if [ "$ret" = "102" ]; then
exit
fi
done




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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
The Digital Pioneer  writes:
> That said, if anyone knows a way to make it not cut and skip when playing
> OGG with mplayer niced at -19, I'd love to hear it. It's not too bad right

Use tremor.

gcc -o ~/bin/ivorbisfile_example -lvorbisidec 
/usr/share/doc/libvorbisidec-dev/examples/ivorbisfile_example.c 
sudo renice -19 -p $$
ivorbisfile_example < foo.ogg | aplay -t raw -c 2 -f S16_BE -r 44100 -B 800 
-

CPU usage should be strictly less than 25%.

If you have time please look at 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515259



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bluetooth headset detection

2009-07-18 Thread Petr Vanek
it seems that while bluez reports status of bluetooth device correctly,
see bellow, fso doesn't see this. what in fso is responsible for knowing
the same thing when asked by oevents rule? or can the rule check with
bluez directly?

thank you

Petr

mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof
bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_09_DD_31_92_98 org.bluez.Headset.GetProperties

{   'Connected': True, 'MicrophoneGain': 65535,
'Playing': False,
'SpeakerGain': 13,
'State': 'connected'}

mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof
bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_09_DD_31_92_98 org.bluez.Headset.GetProperties

{   'Connected': True, 'MicrophoneGain': 65535,
'Playing': True,
'SpeakerGain': 13,
'State': 'playing'}

mdbus -s org.bluez /org/bluez/`pidof
bluetoothd`/hci0/dev_00_09_DD_31_92_98 org.bluez.Headset.GetProperties

{   'Connected': False, 'Playing': False, 'State': 'disconnected'}





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Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-18 Thread arne anka
>> Did you install navit-dev? ... It provides symlinks which navit tries
> i installed navit-dev and now it runs! i can see my actual position

sounds to me like a packaging problem -- a -dev package shouldn't be  
necessary to only run a program, shouldn't it?

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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin
Am 18.07.2009 um 00:19 schrieb arne anka:

> hi,
> just upgraded to fso 5.5 and opp seemed to work as usual.
> in a second step i installed fsousaged and disabled ousaged.
>
> after that opp wasn't able to start up properly at boot (confusing  
> lxpanel
> heavily).
> killing opp and starting it manually after i registered to my provider
> went through w/o hassle.
>
> seeing that fsousaged comes up considerably later than frameworkd, i
> guess, opp is too fast -- it should probably have more patience and at
> least start with all icons in a disabled state, enabling them when
> fsousaged becomes available.

will have to investigate. set in on my opp todo-list.

cheers
christian (morlac) adams

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Re: gsm restart

2009-07-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 17 July 2009 21:12:18 Petr Vanek wrote:
> as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to restart
> it on the fly? power off; power on?

Do you still see firmware crashes even with fso-abyss as muxer?

:M:


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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Saturday 18 July 2009 00:19:32 arne anka wrote:
> hi,
> just upgraded to fso 5.5 and opp seemed to work as usual.
> in a second step i installed fsousaged and disabled ousaged.
>
> after that opp wasn't able to start up properly at boot (confusing lxpanel
> heavily).
> killing opp and starting it manually after i registered to my provider
> went through w/o hassle.
>
> seeing that fsousaged comes up considerably later than frameworkd, i
> guess, opp is too fast -- it should probably have more patience and at
> least start with all icons in a disabled state, enabling them when
> fsousaged becomes available.

I agree. When moving applications to using interprocesscommunication (such as 
DBus), applications need to cope with all kinds of startup and shutdown 
orders, as well as servers that are restarted during the lifetime.

This will make apps more solid and reliable.

Cheers,

:M:




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Re: [shr-u] navit - howto config navit.xml

2009-07-18 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/18/09, arne anka  wrote:
>>> Did you install navit-dev? ... It provides symlinks which navit tries
>> i installed navit-dev and now it runs! i can see my actual position
>
> sounds to me like a packaging problem -- a -dev package shouldn't be
> necessary to only run a program, shouldn't it?

For me it looks rather like configuration problem, as default conf
file depends of files, which are usually found in -dev packages.

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Re: the joys of GSM devices you don't control, part 6438

2009-07-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 08:17:03AM +0100, Tom Yates wrote:
> i haven't seen any mention of this on here yet, and it came from the 
> latest SANS newsbytes (v11 n56).  it gave me a grin to think of yet 
> another thing i don't have to worry about as an openmoko user, because my 
> GSM device is entirely under my control, and i can inspect the source for 
> everything i run, if i want to.

You mean the phone! Because the GSM firmware is, sadly, quite a blob :(

Rui

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Re: [debian 2.6.28|29 xserver-xorg-video-glamo] wsod when xserver stops

2009-07-18 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,

Am 17.07.2009 um 15:36 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:

> 2009/7/16 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak :
>>> since i installed 'xserver-xorg-video-glamo' instead 'xserver-
>>> xglamo', every 2nd (or so) time
>>> i try to shutdown/reboot i get a WSOD when x11 stops.
>>> has someone an idea what i should do?
>>
>> Wait for upgrade. It's already fixed AFAIK.
>
> Indeed. I've run the latest GIT from
> http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xf86-video-glamo.git;a=summary for over a
> week now and haven't experienced the problem (nor the filling of
> Xorg.0.log bug) anymore.
>
> -Timo

maybe a dumb question .. but could you give me some hints howto
actually build it?

cheers,
christian (morlac) adams

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I need a cookbook. Pleeeease...

2009-07-18 Thread lists
Hello community:
As the "I love/I hate Openmoko" thread unfold, I want voice my opinion:
I don't know. 

I don't know because my phone came with some QT stuff that I haven't been 
able to figure out and seems to not be discussed in this list. 

So I've made a decided decision!
But I need help... 

Obvious help...
This may seem abusive because I know that this information is out there, but 
I faced the choice to get an Iphone that will "just work" (sort of anyway) 
or get the device I *KNOW* I need, and I don't regret my decision, but I 
just don't have the time now to devote to this toy.
I *REALLY* need a working tool... 

I am unbelievable tied up in other projects and my new phone has been 
sitting for 2 weeks on my desk...   :( 

Done with the apology, I hope someone here can provide me a simple cookbook 
to change this QT thing to the latest Openmoko.
Something like: 

1.- Go to (http://...) and connect the phone to your computer (I have this 
one).
2.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest GSM (Maybe?)
3.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest ... 1
N.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest ... n
END .- Reboot the thing and SCREAM!!! 

Any help will be appreciated.
If you feel a compelling need to insulting me for asking for obvious help, 
please feel free to ignore thos message and save the list another useless 
flame war.
THANKS!!!
Enrique 

PS: But I *LOVE* the little I've seen...   :)

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Re: using a FreeRunner without cellular service

2009-07-18 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Brolin Empey wrote:
> I thought I could use flight mode to disable the GSM modem to improve the
> battery runtime when I do not need cellular service but still want to use
> the non-phone features, such as the Organiser, but then I discovered my
> phone lacks flight mode.  This might not be significant if I could use my
> phone without a SIM installed, but I cannot do that either.

this has more or less come up before. check out this thread:
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000305.html

some where within there is a terminal print out you could assign to a
desktop shortcut. im about to head out or i would have found it for
you. should take care of what you need

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Re: [debian 2.6.28|29 xserver-xorg-video-glamo] wsod when xserver stops

2009-07-18 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2009/7/18 Christian Adams :
>> Indeed. I've run the latest GIT from
>> http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xf86-video-glamo.git;a=summary
>
> maybe a dumb question .. but could you give me some hints howto
> actually build it?

Not a dumb question. I'm using Debian, so I have all the compilation
software directly on the phone, and also git. So, something like:

apt-get install git-core build-essential gcc xserver-xorg-dev
git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/xf86-video-glamo
cd xf86-video-glamo

At this point you should run autotools, and I don't directly remember
what I ran. Probably something like:

aclocal
libtoolize --automake
automake --add-missing
autoconf

...but I still had some problem so I simply ran autoreconf -vi also.

then:
./configure
make

I installed the driver manually with:

cp -a src/.libs/glamo_drv.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/glamo_drv.so

Hope this helps.

-Timo

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Re: I need a cookbook. Pleeeease...

2009-07-18 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Enrique,

If you just need a phone, goto
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Flashing_the_Neo_FreeRunner
Use the latest om2009, flash kernel and rootfs, reboot twice  and scream :-)
This will give you a basic phone you can use right away, and it will
give you the opertunity to toy when you have more time.

Good luck !

kind regards,
Ed

li...@kitepilot.com wrote:
> Hello community:
> As the "I love/I hate Openmoko" thread unfold, I want voice my opinion:
> I don't know. 
>
> I don't know because my phone came with some QT stuff that I haven't been 
> able to figure out and seems to not be discussed in this list. 
>
> So I've made a decided decision!
> But I need help... 
>
> Obvious help...
> This may seem abusive because I know that this information is out there, but 
> I faced the choice to get an Iphone that will "just work" (sort of anyway) 
> or get the device I *KNOW* I need, and I don't regret my decision, but I 
> just don't have the time now to devote to this toy.
> I *REALLY* need a working tool... 
>
> I am unbelievable tied up in other projects and my new phone has been 
> sitting for 2 weeks on my desk...   :( 
>
> Done with the apology, I hope someone here can provide me a simple cookbook 
> to change this QT thing to the latest Openmoko.
> Something like: 
>
> 1.- Go to (http://...) and connect the phone to your computer (I have this 
> one).
> 2.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest GSM (Maybe?)
> 3.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest ... 1
> N.- Go to (http://...) and and flash the phone with the latest ... n
> END .- Reboot the thing and SCREAM!!! 
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
> If you feel a compelling need to insulting me for asking for obvious help, 
> please feel free to ignore thos message and save the list another useless 
> flame war.
> THANKS!!!
> Enrique 
>
> PS: But I *LOVE* the little I've seen...   :)
>
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Re: [debian 2.6.28|29 xserver-xorg-video-glamo] wsod when xserver stops

2009-07-18 Thread Christian Adams
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Am 18.07.2009 um 15:22 schrieb Timo Jyrinki:

> 2009/7/18 Christian Adams :
>>> Indeed. I've run the latest GIT from
>>> http://git.openmoko.org/?p=xf86-video-glamo.git;a=summary
>>
>> maybe a dumb question .. but could you give me some hints howto
>> actually build it?
>
> Not a dumb question. I'm using Debian, so I have all the compilation
> software directly on the phone, and also git. So, something like:
>
> apt-get install git-core build-essential gcc xserver-xorg-dev
> git clone git://git.openmoko.org/git/xf86-video-glamo
> cd xf86-video-glamo
>
> At this point you should run autotools, and I don't directly remember
> what I ran. Probably something like:
>
> aclocal
> libtoolize --automake
> automake --add-missing
> autoconf
>
> ...but I still had some problem so I simply ran autoreconf -vi also.
>
> then:
> ./configure
> make
>
> I installed the driver manually with:
>
> cp -a src/.libs/glamo_drv.so /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/ 
> glamo_drv.so
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Timo

thanks a lot timo,
with these instructions it went flawlessly and playing with
my freerunner is a lot more fun again :)

cheers,
christian (morlac) adams

p.s. @arne anka:
i'm not sure if i got that far if i didn't send my request to all
IMHO relevant m/l ..

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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,

Am 18.07.2009 um 00:19 schrieb arne anka:

> hi,
> just upgraded to fso 5.5 and opp seemed to work as usual.
> in a second step i installed fsousaged and disabled ousaged.
>
> after that opp wasn't able to start up properly at boot (confusing  
> lxpanel
> heavily).
> killing opp and starting it manually after i registered to my provider
> went through w/o hassle.
>
> seeing that fsousaged comes up considerably later than frameworkd, i
> guess, opp is too fast -- it should probably have more patience and at
> least start with all icons in a disabled state, enabling them when
> fsousaged becomes available.

arne,
could you take a look at xsession-errors and send me opp-regarding  
lines?
would help to see what happend there and do something for robustness  
of opp

cheers,
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Re: gsm restart

2009-07-18 Thread Petr Vanek
>> as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to
>> restart it on the fly? power off; power on?
>
>Do you still see firmware crashes even with fso-abyss as muxer?

i found out about fso-abyss only recently. I am just switched to it now.
thank you.

what could we do to allow us, users, to be able to learn about this new
things earlier and help test using them? i find that i learn about
things way too late... like this fso-abyss thing and bluetooth
support... i try to keep up with the git commits but it's limited. irc
is not really an option everybody can afford timewise...

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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread GNUtoo
On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 12:21 +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> The Digital Pioneer  writes:
> > That said, if anyone knows a way to make it not cut and skip when playing
> > OGG with mplayer niced at -19, I'd love to hear it. It's not too bad right
> 
> Use tremor.
> 
> gcc -o ~/bin/ivorbisfile_example -lvorbisidec 
> /usr/share/doc/libvorbisidec-dev/examples/ivorbisfile_example.c 
> sudo renice -19 -p $$
> ivorbisfile_example < foo.ogg | aplay -t raw -c 2 -f S16_BE -r 44100 -B 
> 800 -
> 
> CPU usage should be strictly less than 25%.
> 
> If you have time please look at 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515259
does modifying the mplayer config(if I remember well it's
in /usr/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf) file for making it use libvorbis
instead of ffmpeg and installing tremor works?
(that's what I use and the cpu usage is lower)
Denis.


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Re: bluetooth headset detection

2009-07-18 Thread Petr Vanek
>it seems that while bluez reports status of bluetooth device correctly,
>see bellow, fso doesn't see this. what in fso is responsible for
>knowing the same thing when asked by oevents rule? or can the rule
>check with bluez directly?

i tried going through fso framework as suggested on irc but it just goes
over the top of my head... sorry Paul.

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[Om2008] sometimes the AUX button is disabled

2009-07-18 Thread Matthias Apitz

Hello,

I encounter the problem that sometimes after a call the AUX button is
disabled and does not lock the screen anymore. First I thought in a hw
fault, but because a simple reboot makes it working again, it must be
some software problem. As well today after a call, the red light in the
AUX does not go on on charging (yes I've checked that it is charging
with the battery.py app), as well the small symbol on the screen was not
indicating the charging.

Any ideas? Thx

matthias
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Re: gsm restart

2009-07-18 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/18/09, Petr Vanek  wrote:
>>> as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to
>>> restart it on the fly? power off; power on?
>>
>>Do you still see firmware crashes even with fso-abyss as muxer?
>
> i found out about fso-abyss only recently. I am just switched to it now.
> thank you.
>
> what could we do to allow us, users, to be able to learn about this new
> things earlier and help test using them? i find that i learn about
> things way too late... like this fso-abyss thing and bluetooth
> support... i try to keep up with the git commits but it's limited. irc
> is not really an option everybody can afford timewise...
>
> Petr

fso-abyss is default in SHR - next image will use it out of box. About
bluetooth - BT support was added ages ago and it was described on wiki
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Re: gsm restart

2009-07-18 Thread Petr Vanek
>> what could we do to allow us, users, to be able to learn about this
>> new things earlier and help test using them? i find that i learn
>> about things way too late... like this fso-abyss thing and bluetooth
>> support... i try to keep up with the git commits but it's limited.
>> irc is not really an option everybody can afford timewise...
>>
>> Petr
>
>fso-abyss is default in SHR - next image will use it out of box. About
>bluetooth - BT support was added ages ago and it was described on wiki

maybe you haven't noticed, but i am trying to be constructive, asking
question "what could we do to change this".

it perhaps has been described on wiki but the reality is that majority
of fr owners didn't know it was functional already so it wasn't used.

if this, as developer, satisfies you, well, so be it.

Petr




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Re: I need a cookbook. Pleeeease...

2009-07-18 Thread Damian Spriggs
On Jul 18, 2009, at 9:12 AM, li...@kitepilot.com wrote:

> Done with the apology, I hope someone here can provide me a simple  
> cookbook
> to change this QT thing to the latest Openmoko.

Not a full cookbook, but the 2 quickest/easiest recipes. (No  
disrespect to the OM and SHR teams, but they take a bit more low level  
knowledge and way more time to get a fully working phone.) After you  
get one of these installed (or both. They live nicely together on my  
phone), I recommend reading up on the other distros available, and  
picking one you feel comfortable with. Anyway, on with the "cooking":

"Android Snack"
This is sort of the "microwave pizza" distro. Quick, simple, filling  
the basic needs, but it lacks the satisfying "I can hack the planet  
from my phone!" feeling.

Ingredients:
Computer (any flavor)
Freerunner (duh)
1 SD card reader (attached to above computer)
1 SD card, FAT formatted (the 512k one that came with the Freerunner  
will work fine)
Latest Android for Freerunner release [1]

Directions:
- Open up the Freerunner and remove the SD card [2]
- Insert card into card reader and mount on computer
- Download the Android zip file and unzip.
- Copy all the files from inside the folder to the SD card. Do not  
just copy the folder over
- Reassemble the Freerunner and plug in.
- Power on the Freerunner while holding down the AUX button [3]
- At the boot menu, press the AUX key until "Boot from microSD (FAT 
+ext2) is selected, then press the power button
- Watch text scroll by as Android installs itself onto the phone
- When it's done, it will reboot itself. You will first see a Koolu  
splash screen, then an Android one. The first boot may take a few  
minutes, so just be patient
- Android is installed, and ready to use. More usage information can  
be found at Googles Android site [4]


"Hackable:1 Takeout"
This distro has the "Everything, including the kitchen sink" approach  
that comes with Debian. It takes some basic Linux knowledge, but it's  
fast and fairly stable. It lives on the SD card, so you can dual boot.

Ingredients:
Computer (Linux based, distro doesn't matter. Mac or Win works, but  
they need special tools)
Freerunner (again, duh)
1 SD card reader (attached to above computer)
1 SD card, FAT and ext2 formatted, details below (minimum 1Gig, but I  
recommend an 8Gig Trancend card. I've used it without any problems)
  Latest Hackable:1 for Freerunner boot and file system files  
(currently Rev4) [5] [6]

Directions:
The Hackable:1 team already wrote up some good installation docs on  
their wiki [7]


[1] 
http://koolu.org/releases/cupcake-1.5-alpha1/android-freerunner-koolu1.5-alpha-1.zip
[2] 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Installing_the_Micro-SD_card.2C_the_SIM_card.2C_and_the_Battery
[3] 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo_FreeRunner#Buttons_and_connectors
[4] http://www.android.com
[5] http://download.hackable1.org/h1-ext2_partition-rev4-classic-rc1.tar.gz
[6] http://download.hackable1.org/h1-fat_partition-rev4.tar.gz
[7] http://www.hackable1.org/wiki/Installation

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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/18/09, Christian Adams  wrote:
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> moinmoin,
>
> Am 18.07.2009 um 00:19 schrieb arne anka:
>
>> hi,
>> just upgraded to fso 5.5 and opp seemed to work as usual.
>> in a second step i installed fsousaged and disabled ousaged.
>>
>> after that opp wasn't able to start up properly at boot (confusing
>> lxpanel
>> heavily).
>> killing opp and starting it manually after i registered to my provider
>> went through w/o hassle.
>>
>> seeing that fsousaged comes up considerably later than frameworkd, i
>> guess, opp is too fast -- it should probably have more patience and at
>> least start with all icons in a disabled state, enabling them when
>> fsousaged becomes available.
>
> arne,
> could you take a look at xsession-errors and send me opp-regarding
> lines?
> would help to see what happend there and do something for robustness
> of opp
>
> cheers,
>   christian (morlac) adams
>
Just fsousaged was started when openmoko-panel-plugin requested it.
opp should just try again, instead of failing.

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Re: [Om2008] sometimes the AUX button is disabled

2009-07-18 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Sorry to tell you this, but OM2008 is outdated for a long time ago
already, OM2009 is now more active..

  -> thanks for reporting but I'm 95% sure, it will not be fixed..

r



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Re: [Om2008] sometimes the AUX button is disabled

2009-07-18 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Saturday, July 18, 2009 a las 07:18:09PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa escribió:

> Sorry to tell you this, but OM2008 is outdated for a long time ago
> already, OM2009 is now more active..
> 
>   -> thanks for reporting but I'm 95% sure, it will not be fixed..
> 
> r

Risto,

Thanks for the feedback; to be exact I (still) run Om2008.9 and I know
that it is a bit outdated. But, I use it as my daily and only mobile and
need this way some kind of stability; at the same time I've done a lot of
tweaking to let the device match what I need:

http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt

I followed ofc as well closely this list talking about Om2009, but have
not found a real reason to update yet. But, ofc I will do once I will find
the time;
 
Is my mentioned problem as well in Om2009 known? thanks

matthias

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BrightPlayer 0.2

2009-07-18 Thread Daniel MT
Howdy.
I just uploaded the new version of BrightPlayer available in
http://www.faltantornillos.net/proyectos/gnu/brightPlayer/brightPlayerGTK0.2.tar.gz
A fast, lightweight and easy random music player.
Now we switched to GTk, you can change the volume while playing, lock
and unlock the screen and decide if you want to play music that turns
you up or down.
  faltantornillos.net

   disculpenlasmolestias.com


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Re: [Om2008] sometimes the AUX button is disabled

2009-07-18 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:04:33PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
> El día Saturday, July 18, 2009 a las 07:18:09PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa 
> escribió:
> 
> > Sorry to tell you this, but OM2008 is outdated for a long time ago
> > already, OM2009 is now more active..
> > 
> >   -> thanks for reporting but I'm 95% sure, it will not be fixed..
> > 
> > r
> 
> Risto,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback; to be exact I (still) run Om2008.9 and I know
> that it is a bit outdated. But, I use it as my daily and only mobile and
> need this way some kind of stability; at the same time I've done a lot of
> tweaking to let the device match what I need:
> 
> http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt

Ouch, Om2008.12 was way better for me as a daily phone. Basically because
the White Screen of Death was then fixed for my model :)

Now seriously, although with less features, Om2009t5 is about as faithful as
2008.12 was. At least for me...

Rui

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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,

Am 18.07.2009 um 17:58 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak:

> Just fsousaged was started when openmoko-panel-plugin requested it.
> opp should just try again, instead of failing.


thats what it actually is supposed to do ..

to know what happend there and to be able to change opp's behaviour i
need logfiles (xsession-errors) ..

cheers,
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Re: good bye google code

2009-07-18 Thread mqy

I registered to github, need some time to get used to it.
My first impression is clean and efficient.

Strange that can't be authorized by SVN of projects.openmoko.org.

BTW, a new omgps installer ipk package was released, download from
omgps.googlecode.com.

regards,
  mqy


Bumbl wrote:
> 
> you might check out github
> which really rocks and is free for opensource projects
> 
> 2009/7/17 jeremy jozwik 
> 
>> search function is very bad as well. the only way to get to the intone
>> page is to search google for c_c
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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread arne anka
Xsession: X session started for arne at Sat Jul 18 19:57:49 CEST 2009
libnotify-Message: GetServerInformation call failed: The name  
org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files
INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of keyboard
INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of gps
INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of battery
INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of bluetooth
INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of buttons
INFO:root:entering init for UsageInterface for gps
INFO:root:resourceChanged: name: GPS state: 0 attributes: None
INFO:root:entering postDisable of gps
INFO:root:entering init for battery
INFO:root:entering init for UsageInterface for bluetooth
INFO:root:resourceChanged: name: Bluetooth state: 0 attributes: None
INFO:root:entering postDisable of bluetooth
INFO:root:entering init for UsageInterface for wifi
INFO:root:resourceChanged: name: WiFi state: 0 attributes: None
INFO:root:entering postDisable of wifi
INFO:root:entering init for buttons
ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/dbus/connection.py", line 214, in  
maybe_handle_message
 self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
   File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/panelplugin/UsageIcon.py", line 297,  
in resourceAvailable
 logging.info("resourceAvailable: name: %s available: %s" % (name,  
available1))
NameError: global name 'available1' is not defined

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Using gps from command line

2009-07-18 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi!

I tried to follow a gps tutorial on my freeerunner using om2009.t5:
http://totalueberwachung.de/blog/2008/10/14/fso-tutorial-part-1-gps

cli-framework
usageiface.RequestResource("GPS")
gpsposition.GetPosition()

And it only returns with (0, 0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0).

I thought it is because it didnt get a fix, but it is the same after a
half an hour.

So anybody can show me a working code using the gps through frameworkd?

Best regards,
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Re: [debian/fso] openmoko-panel-plugin should be more patient?

2009-07-18 Thread Christian Adams
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moinmoin,
Am 18.07.2009 um 20:04 schrieb arne anka:

> Xsession: X session started for arne at Sat Jul 18 19:57:49 CEST 2009
> libnotify-Message: GetServerInformation call failed: The name
> org.freedesktop.Notifications was not provided by any .service files
> INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of keyboard
> INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of gps
> INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of battery
> INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of bluetooth
> INFO:root:entering dbusReInit of buttons
> INFO:root:entering init for UsageInterface for gps
> INFO:root:resourceChanged: name: GPS state: 0 attributes: None
> INFO:root:entering postDisable of gps
> INFO:root:entering init for battery
> INFO:root:entering init for UsageInterface for bluetooth
> INFO:root:resourceChanged: name: Bluetooth state: 0 attributes: None
> INFO:root:entering postDisable of bluetooth
> INFO:root:entering init for UsageInterface for wifi
> INFO:root:resourceChanged: name: WiFi state: 0 attributes: None
> INFO:root:entering postDisable of wifi
> INFO:root:entering init for buttons
> ERROR:dbus.connection:Exception in handler for D-Bus signal:
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/dbus/connection.py", line  
> 214, in
> maybe_handle_message
>  self._handler(*args, **kwargs)
>File "/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.5/panelplugin/UsageIcon.py",  
> line 297,
> in resourceAvailable
>  logging.info("resourceAvailable: name: %s available: %s" % (name,
> available1))
> NameError: global name 'available1' is not defined

i just uploaded a current version of opp where i fixed this typo to
http://projects.openmoko.org/projects/panel-plugin/

cheers,
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Re: gsm restart

2009-07-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Saturday 18 July 2009 16:27:04 Petr Vanek wrote:
> >> as calypso sometimes crashes under heavy load is there a way to
> >> restart it on the fly? power off; power on?
> >
> >Do you still see firmware crashes even with fso-abyss as muxer?
>
> i found out about fso-abyss only recently. I am just switched to it now.
> thank you.
>
> what could we do to allow us, users, to be able to learn about this new
> things earlier and help test using them? i find that i learn about
> things way too late... like this fso-abyss thing and bluetooth
> support... i try to keep up with the git commits but it's limited. irc
> is not really an option everybody can afford timewise...

For one, there are the community updates on the wiki. Then there are the 
regular freesmartphone.org releases (ms 5.5 will be announced tomorrow) with 
status reports (also on the wiki). Last but not least, you could subscribe to 
smartphones-standards and smartphones-userland -- this is where all the FSO 
action happens.

Cheers,

:M:


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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread pike
Hi

>> But I could sit in the train in peace.
> And while on that train, did you see the light at the end of the tunnel?

no, sorry, i was staring at a black terminal

:-)
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Re: [Om2008] sometimes the AUX button is disabled

2009-07-18 Thread Michele Brocco
On 7/18/09, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra  wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 07:04:33PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote:
>> El día Saturday, July 18, 2009 a las 07:18:09PM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa
>> escribió:
>>
>> > Sorry to tell you this, but OM2008 is outdated for a long time ago
>> > already, OM2009 is now more active..
>> >
>> >   -> thanks for reporting but I'm 95% sure, it will not be fixed..
>> >
>> > r
>>
>> Risto,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback; to be exact I (still) run Om2008.9 and I know
>> that it is a bit outdated. But, I use it as my daily and only mobile and
>> need this way some kind of stability; at the same time I've done a lot of
>> tweaking to let the device match what I need:
>>
>> http://www.unixarea.de/openmoko.txt
>
> Ouch, Om2008.12 was way better for me as a daily phone. Basically because
> the White Screen of Death was then fixed for my model :)
>
> Now seriously, although with less features, Om2009t5 is about as faithful as
> 2008.12 was. At least for me...
>
> Rui
>
I changed from 2008.12 to SHR some week ago as well. But I can
understand people who still use OM 2008. One reason is the PIM support
is much better until now. However, I would also advice to switch to
another distro because IMHO all the other things except for PIM (and
some other small things) work better there.

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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread Alexander Lehner


My 2 Cents:

My goal is to have the FR with me on a one week outdoor holiday without 
power plants, without battery shops etc.
(Mainly is GPS tracking, and some GPRS/UMTS connects).
So I was trying different ways to keep the phone charged 24/24 + 7/7 by 
alternative resources: solar power, bycicle dynamo, even a hand crank.

See some funny pictures on my site:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Blutsauger

It is surprising, how difficult and even hard it is, to produce 
electricity this way.
By using the hand crank, I could even 'feel' the power consumption of the 
phone!
So this gave me an impression, how important a power-saving software 
development is (this is something that can/should also be done on the 
application level), and second:

It is sursprising how resistent the FR is against strange power input!
I now really have feed the phone with almost everything between 1.0 and 
12 Volt, real DC and some badly smoothed DC, and it is still alive!
Also playing with the different options of charging currents is pretty 
much fun and I learned a lot about USB power specs etc. and I must say 
that FR really does everything right, in contrast to many different other 
USB power leeching devices.


A.


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Re: Anti-Whining: Happy Moko Moments

2009-07-18 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Alexander
Lehner wrote:
> See some funny pictures on my site:
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Blutsauger

ok, i think you get the biggest geek award thus far. that setup is
most impressive

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Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread c_c

Hi,
  Well, after quite a few tweaks - here is the latest version of Intone.

Changes :-
* (hopefully) better top bar in playlist view
* change priority from gui
* change playing song icon to play in list
* fixes to better support logical order when changing from random->normal
and vice versa
* support bluetooth streaming to A2DP sets from intone (__you'll have to
pair the headset yourself__)
* better time display on progress bar
* even better scan routine (please rescan your songs for the right names to
be picked up)
* some code speedups
* fixed ui break in album art view with long song names

  So try it out and post feedback.
  Coming soon - progress during scanning, quick search for songs and
bluetooth headset button support.

  I don't have a bluetooth headset - so please try the feature and post back
if it works. Will start work on the commands once this is proven.

Thanks

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3283204/intone_0.60_arm.ipk intone_0.60_arm.ipk 

http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3283204/Screenshot-4.png 
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Quick bluetooth note: you need to turn the bluetooth chip on before you can
use it (as you know). Please request it from FSO before trying to use it, as
that makes life easier for the users (we don't have to do it manually) and
it saves battery life (only have it on when you're using it).

I'll be more than happy to beta test AVRCP functionality (which is bluetooth
control buttons). Just give me a binary, as I can't compile for FR, and I'll
tell you what I get. :)

Finally, AWESEOME UI updates. Everything works perfectly, and I really like
the new way to control repeat/random. It's excellent to have a nice control
for mplayer in the GUI too (saves me a lot of time starting the music). Just
one quick request: remember what I set mplayer's nice to between sessions.

Lots of great updates. :D Thanks!
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread c_c

Hi,

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> Quick bluetooth note: you need to turn the bluetooth chip on before you
> can
> use it (as you know). Please request it from FSO before trying to use it
> 
  Ok. And switch it off on exiting intone? Should I be doing this? Hmmm. 

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> I'll be more than happy to beta test AVRCP functionality.
> 
  Thanks.

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
> remember what I set mplayer's nice to between sessions.
> 
  That should be working. Can you confirm?
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread The Digital Pioneer
>
> That should be working. Can you confirm?

Oh, it probably is. I had to kill -9 intone to make it exit when I tried it,
I didn't think about that... :P Why did I have to kill -9 it? Because it
tried to use bluetooth without having the chip on.

 And yes, if you're using bluetooth, you should request the resource from
FSO. Otherwise, it's luck of the draw whether it'll actually be usable or
not, and if it's not, bad stuff happens. Just tell FSO when you need it and
then when you're done (which would probably be on exit) and it'll take care
of everything. :)
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread c_c

Hi,

The Digital Pioneer wrote:
> 
>  And yes, if you're using bluetooth, you should request the resource from
> FSO.
> 
 Ok. Will do that. Have started work on reading key scancodes from X. Can
someone point me in the right direction - an example will really help.
Thanks.
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Well, FWIW, here are the release events for my AVRCP buttons as told by xev:

KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x101,
root 0x1a7, subw 0x0, time 820765331, (-671,-139), root:(428,480),
state 0x0, keycode 162 (keysym 0x1008ff14, XF86AudioPlay), same_screen
YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x101,
root 0x1a7, subw 0x0, time 820844540, (111,-141), root:(1210,478),
state 0x0, keycode 153 (keysym 0x1008ff17, XF86AudioNext), same_screen
YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 34, synthetic NO, window 0x101,
root 0x1a7, subw 0x0, time 820870269, (95,-73), root:(1194,546),
state 0x0, keycode 144 (keysym 0x1008ff16, XF86AudioPrev), same_screen
YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
XFilterEvent returns: False


Hopefully the details are the same on the FR, but I can't be sure as I can't
actually see what keycodes are received on the FR. I just know for certain
that it's getting some.

I'll be happy to give any other info you need.
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread c_c

Hi,

ran wrote:
> 
> Application failed to start  ( Om2009 un )
> 
  Well, I think it must be the e libs. Can you run intone in a terminal and
post the error message?
Thanks
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Re: Intone 0.60 Almost Stable ;-)

2009-07-18 Thread c_c

Hi,

>Librarys ??? 

 Yup. Will post a package for OM2009 soon.


  Looking for local information? Find it on Yahoo! Local 
http://in.local.yahoo.com/
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