Re: Error found on "make fso-gta02-milestone5-image"

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

since it's glibc related, why not try this:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile#glibc_fails_to_build

Tom

Daniel.Li escribió:
> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 07:50 +0800, HouYu Li wrote:
>   
>> using the default makefile from download site works well. haven't
>> tried the git version. I think you might try milestone5.1.
>> 
>
> I have check "wget http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/Makefile";.
> And diff this file with common/Makefile.
>
> They are the same.
>   
>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Daniel.Li  wrote:
>> Dear List,
>> 
>> I have followed http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO to
>> build fso
>> $ git clone git://git.freesmartphone.org/fso-makefile common
>> $ ln -s common/Makefile Makefile
>> $ make fso-gta02-milestone5-image
>> 
>> blabla..
>> 
>> NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available.
>> Install it
>> to increase performance.
>> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (5389/6406) [84 %]ERROR: Could
>> not
>> include required file glibc_2.6.1.bb while
>> parsing 
>> /home/daniel/work4/fso/fso-milestone5/openembedded/packages/glibc/glibc-initial_2.6.1.bb
>> NOTE: Handling BitBake files: - (6406/6406) [100 %]
>> NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 6123 parsed, 282 skipped, 0
>> masked.
>> ERROR: Parsing errors found, exiting...
>> make[1]: *** [image] Error 1
>> make[1]: Leaving directory
>> `/home/daniel/work4/fso/fso-milestone5'
>> make: *** [fso-gta02-milestone5-image] Error 2
>> 
>> 
>> Have anyone met this before, how can i solve this? Thanks.
>> 
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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

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Glen Ogilvie escribió:
> On Sunday 22 February 2009, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
>   
>> as some might have noticed, I've been struggling with my efforts to
>> build QtExtended on FSO as specified on mwester's page[1]. Today I've
>> been successful on building the whole pack of stuff and run it on my
>> neo. 
>> 
> ---CUT--
>   
>> If anyone wants to try it, I can upload the whole set of images
>> somewhere, or maybe a full backup of my phone so people can try it for
>> themselves (just please notice that this is highly experimental and
>> probably not very well built)
>> 
>
> Hi Tomas,
>
> Do you have a tar.gz of QtExtended 4.4.3 on FSO with echo fixed?  I'd like to 
> try it, as am looking for something that I can use as an everyday OS for my 
> open moko.   What kernel are you running with it?  does supend and resume 
> work without any issues?
>
> Regards
> Glen Ogilvie
>   
Yes, I believe the backup i uploaded to 
http://triveros.go.dyndns.org/qtopia/ should be echo-free. However, I do 
not remember which kernel is that one using - probably om-testing 2.6.24 
(and the backup should have the modules installed too). Also, this is an 
internal backup, not one to put on your SD card.
You probably would prefer to use the following method to get an updated 
rootfs.
get a FSO "console" image and its kernel (use 2.6.24, not 2.6.28 or you 
will get weird issues with everything, especially suspend/resume), then 
blast a qtextended tarball to it (i have a 4.4.3 snapshot built on that 
same address, it's called qtefso.tgz) and then apply the echo patch from 
http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo
I believe that 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 are binary-compatible so it should pose 
no problem to use it.

good luck!
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[Qt Extended] Qt Extended discontinued

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

I dont't know about you guys, but I saw this coming already
http://www.qtsoftware.com/about/news/qt-software-discontinues-qt-extended

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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

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andrew howlett escribió:
> Tomas:
>
> I downloaded the .bin and .jffs2 which you had posted - they rock! WSOD is
> gone, phone sounds good. Thank you very much for posting the backup file.
>
> Andrew Howlett.
>   
I'm glad they worked for you. Hopefully, tomorrow's release will bring 
more improvements (specially with regards to wlan and dns)

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

now that was fastdid you by chance check if the echo fix was 
integrated or not? do we have to integrate it ourselves? (im talking 
about chris samuel's fix)

Tom

HouYu Li escribió:
> I made a qt-extended 4.4.3 release binary only build. you can get it here
>
> http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ 
> 
>
> rootfs come later...
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Chris Samuel  > wrote:
>
> Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source only
> so far) have
> just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking around.
>  More info
> in the posting by Lorn here:
>
> http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54
>
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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

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can you try to set up a wlan connection (or a gprs one) and check if 
resolv.conf gets updated properly? that's one of the biggest flaws that 
old QtE had
the rootfs you're using is fso, right?

regards,
Tom

HouYu Li escribió:
> Just had a test. Echo is there, and incoming call is received twice. I 
> am using rootfs and kernel from openmoko daily build 20090120. So the 
> kernel is 2.6.24.
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober 
> mailto:trive...@enable.cl>> wrote:
>
> now that was fastdid you by chance check if the echo fix was
> integrated or not? do we have to integrate it ourselves? (im talking
> about chris samuel's fix)
>
> Tom
>
> HouYu Li escribió:
> > I made a qt-extended 4.4.3 release binary only build. you can
> get it here
> >
> > http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/
> <http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/>
> > <http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/%7Elihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/>
> >
> > rootfs come later...
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Chris Samuel  <mailto:ch...@csamuel.org>
> > <mailto:ch...@csamuel.org <mailto:ch...@csamuel.org>>> wrote:
> >
> > Just noticed that the files for the release of 4.4.3 (source
> only
> > so far) have
> > just appeared on the Qt Extended site whilst I was looking
> around.
> >  More info
> > in the posting by Lorn here:
> >
> > http://qtextended.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=54
> >
> > cheers,
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Re: latest qt extended?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

that is absolutely no release!
that image was built from the source snapshots a while ago, and probably 
does not represent QtExtended's current state (i mean 4.4.3 release), so 
I would wait for a proper build from the latest release instead.

regards
Tom

andrew howlett escribió:
> yes, check this wiki page:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qt_Extended_4.4.3
>
> later,
> andrew.
>
>   
>> Is the any qt extended release that has been updated 
>> recently?  I.e, this year?
>>
>> I am looking for one with the echo and WSOD fixes in it.
>> 
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Re: latest qt extended?

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andrew howlett escribió:
>
> Sorry Tom, I'll remove the links at the referenced wiki page and update it
> (tomorrow?) after I've compiled the official 4.4.3 source which trolltech
> released today.
>
> andrew.
>   
No problem at all, besides, if there was a link in the wiki maybe I'd 
have to distribute the source too ;) and it's just a thrown together 
image that happens to work (for me, and apparently some others)
let's see who's first to put up updated QtE images!

regards,
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Re: Troubles with opkg.org repo

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

(...cut...)

With that huge list of broken packages, wouldn't it be better to just 
remove them from opkg.org's repository while good versions are uploaded?
maybe after that implement some sort of automatic check for both 
conditions (file type and control file inside)

regards
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[QtExtended] about bug reports

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Considering that QtE is officially "dead", what shall we do about bugs 
in the current (last) code?
shall we start a separate bug tracker in addition to the community git 
repo? shall we report back to nokia using the usual tracker? should we 
just send patches to the git repo (until a solution is found)?
It would be nice if we (the community) join efforts to keep QtE alive as 
long as possible.

Regards
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Re: [QTE 4.4.3] Determining which version of GSM firmware I have.

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

I have just upgraded using the sd card method from moko10 to moko11 
without issues on both my brother's phone  and mine, so maybe it's some 
sort of corner case

W.Kenworthy escribió:
> It did for me - absolutely refused to upgrade in every way I tried until
> I downgraded (as per the wiki page) and then the upgrade worked fine.
> This happened with moko10 and trying to upgrade to moko11 - yes doesnt
> make sense, but the fact I ran into it, and the wiki page had a fix that
> specifically mentioned it means its a real problem.
>
> BillK
>
> On Tue, 2009-03-10 at 14:01 +0300, Paul Fertser wrote:
>   
>> Friedrich Clausen  writes:
>> 
>>> On the previously mentioned GSM flashing page it says
>>>
>>>   
 Also PLEASE DON 'T USE moko9beta1, as there is at least one report on 
 reflashing to
 another FW gets difficult from moko9b1.
 
>>> but this is the GSM firmware that came with my phone so I have no
>>> choice but to flash from this firmware - I hope it goes well!
>>>   
>> Looks like there was some confusion and this information is
>> incorrect. The installed firmware version can't make upgrading harder,
>> especially given you use the ROM bootloader.
>>
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Re: [QTExtended] Qt Extended is still going

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HouYu Li escribió:
> The community just want to make Qt Extended moving forward. Now 
> everything is there.
>
> *Unofficial Qt Extended release 4.4.3 binary*
> http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/ 
> 
>
> *Unofficial git repository*
> git://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for git
> http://git.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved.git for web access
>
> *Bugs, Patches and Ideas*
> Go to http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved
> Register a user for submit bugs, patches and ideas.
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This is great! as soon as I get my neo back (it's on soldering 
nowbuzz fix), I will install 4.4.3 and report back whatever I find.
Thanks for all the work needed to setup a place for the community to start!

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Re: Yet Another Screen Of Death

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Denis Shulyaka escribió:
> Hi list!
> I think something similar have already been discussed here, but not
> exactly my problem.
> The problem is: I can't wake up from suspend. The first time after
> reboot I try to wake it up it showes me a white screen with a
> horisontal gray line at the bottom which quickly fades to black
> screen. The rest of the system is working, I can ssh into the device
> and suspend it again using power button.
> The next time I try to wake it up it usually showes me black screen,
> but sometimes it's white and sometimes I see vertical black/gray/white
> 'jazzy' lines that respond on me touching the screen. The most
> interesting thing is that sometimes it showes a normal screen even if
> it was unable to wake up previously.
> I can't tell whether it is temperature related, but it definately
> doesn't matter how long it was suspended.
> It never happens on startup.
> I'm using OM 2008.12 distribution. I tried andy-tracking kernel about
> a month ago with no luck.
> Is it a ralatively common problem or I'm so unlucky to be the only one?
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that happened to me while using Qi with 2008.12
try to use u-boot instead, and remember to install the kernel modules 
after flashing

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Re: Request for Feedback - SATAN

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Anton Persson escribió:
> Hi folkz!
>
> I just wanted to request user feedback for my app SATAN, if there are 
> _any_ users out there.. I know
> some people have at least tried, and hopefully all have succeeded, to 
> install and start the application..
>
> But I want to know; have anyone succeeded making some noise with it? 
> What are your thoughts?
> Do you want any specific improvements or changes?
>
> Best regards,
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Well I am not a user (yet), however, I certainly love the name.

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Re: [All] Suggested IMAP client?

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Cameron Frazier escribió:
> As per the subject, is there a suggested IMAP client for the FR? I'm
> using SHR-Unstable at the moment, but I figure it's a reasonable
> question for all distros.
>
> Kind regards,
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On QtE, the integrated imap client works wonders (however, since my 
account has 14k mails, it slows down to a crawl)

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

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xChris escribió:
> sorry to say the the wireless patch [1] is not only useless but worst (in my
> case, as it even NOT connects to wlan).
>
> I use the kernel [2] and the binary snapbuild 16032009.
>
> any ideas  are welcome,
>
> regards
>
> chris
>
> [1] http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/6
> [2]
> http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/4.4.3/testing-om-gta02-20090120.uImage.bin
>   
it works great for me, but I also fixed the dns resolving issues in 
/etc/resolv.conf

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Re: [QtExtended] Qt Extended 4.4.3 released

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xChris escribió:
> btw, I am trying to connect to a WPA network. (it worked ok with the 4.4.2
> version) 
> just I am curious if your networks that your connected are open.
> then.. i have no clue why it work for you and not for me... maybe my h/ware
> is buggy (its the GTA02v6).
>
> chris
>   
yes, it is WPA PSK, on two different locations
I have a gta02v5
maybe you failed to install the modules for your kernel (IIRC, one of 
the modules is crypto support, which means it is needed for WPA connections)

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

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Franky,
It's great to see you making huge progress with QtEI, however, I have 
some questions before trying your build.
1. Do incoming calls get answered using Speaker or Handset? On my phone 
all incoming calls are answered using Speaker, which is very annying. 
I've been having this problem since the time QtE was called Qtopia, and 
no build has had it fixed.
2. Is power management working fine? If I change any settings on my 
phone, suspend stops working.

regards
Tom

Franky Van Liedekerke escribió:
> (install instructions and script updated on 2090415: see below)
>
> Problems solved:
> 
> - 20090401: 2.6.28 ok (even 2.6.29-rc2 ok)
> - 20090401: alarms OK (using atd from
>   http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/armv4t/base/, since no
>   newer package exists), normal + when suspended
> - 20090401: wake up when receiving sms, OK
> - 20090401: call + echo check, all OK
> - 20090401: duplicate sms thing: solved (see also fix on 20090412)
> - 20090401: mail ok
> - 20090401: wifi ok
> - 20090403: voice notes (see my mail/patch) ok
> - 20090404: usb cable handling: ok (mailed a patch to Filip, I hope he
>   integrates all the 2.6.28 patches and commits them)
> - 20090404: bluetooth ok (need to downgrade to bluez3 and not use
>   bluez4, install script updated accordingly)
> - 20090410: voicemail number is now saved across reboots (see
> http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/15)
> - 20090410: snooze function works correctly now for repetitive alarms
>   (see http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/27)
> - 20090412: wlan no longer always "online" after unsuspend. I don't
>   know if this saves power or not though ...
> - 20090412: SMS's are deleted from SIM after being read (see
> http://trac.karadog.net/qt-extended-improved/ticket/29). THIS NEEDS
> TESTING!!!
>
> - 20090413: vibrating/alarm/snoozing: works reliable now (there was a
>   bug in the used timers logic that could cause infinite vibrating)
> - 20090415: "missed calls bug finally solved, it took some code
>   rewriting I found in the qtopia version Om2008.12 (thanks Holger!)
> - 20090415: outgoing call doesn't register anymore as "missed" when
>   aborting the call before the connection is made (again: thanks
>   Holger!)
>
> (the last 2 fixes aren't in any tickets, I need to create a patch for
> these.)
>
>
> Problems found (more like small nuisances now):
> ===
> - if you set the time back to something in the past, the clock service
>   crashes and you need to restart qtextended if you want to use the
>   clock again
> - bluetooth is not working totally ok, only after initial boot it
>   works, not after suspend/resume. Seems to be kernel/bluez3 version
>   combo issue ... After suspend/resume bluetooth seems to work, but
>   receiving files for sure don't.
> - if you try to delete the "Wireless Lan", the system crashes ... cool
>   huh, a crashed phone? So for now: don't do it :-)
>
> - waiting call notification doesn' t work for me, it seems that the
>   command to set the CCWA on the network fails for me:
>
>  AtChat :  T : "AT+CCWA=1,1,1"
>  AtChat :  F : "+CME ERROR: 4"
>  AtChat :  T : "AT+CCWA=1,2"
>  AtChat :  F : "+CCWA: 0,7"
>  AtChat :  F : "OK"
>
> The error "+CME ERROR: 4" means that the operation is not supported. Is
> this provider related?
>
> - I had a problem with the battery service crashing on me; all of the
>   suddenly (after many suspend/resumes) the device gave me a warning
>   that the battery was critical low, but after another suspend/resume 
>   cycle, the icon showed a full battery (even though the battery was at
>   60% or so)
>
>
> Install instructions:
> =
> download the script
> http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments
> at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having
> flashed the device and made sure internet works).
> For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download
> the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it:
> http://users.telenet.be/liedekef/qte_20090415.tgz.
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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 7

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Franky,
I've just installed your version of QtE and everything works very well 
with one major exception,
the phone suspends while on calls! I'm using the rootfs from april 4th 
(recommended in your script)
this is very, very bad!
Tom

Franky Van Liedekerke escribió:
> On Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:20:50 +0200
> Sound Freedom  wrote:
>
>   
>>> - 20090415: "missed calls bug finally solved, it took some code
>>>  rewriting I found in the qtopia version Om2008.12 (thanks Holger!)
>>>   
>> Is it resolve this problem ? :
>> When the phone is in supsend mode, when somebody call me, the phone
>> doesn't do anything. But when I wake the phone, it's ringing 3 time
>> for a call from unknown person. Then the real call is lost.
>> I don't know if it do the same with a sms.
>>
>> 
>
> This is kernel related probably ... what kernel+rootfs are you using?
>
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[SHR] Missing icons after install

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Hello,
I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable 
just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot 
find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal). 
i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the 
terminal launches it correctly. Same thing happens with other apps shown 
in the initial configuration screen, but somehow lost after booting to e.
Am I missing something incredibly stupid (it's been a while since I've 
tried SHR), or does it work that way? If so, how can I get launchers for 
those "missing" apps?

thanks in advance

Tom

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Re: [SHR] Missing icons after install

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Great! thanks for the quick answer!
should it be fixed by opkg upgrade or a .e removal or a full reflash?

thanks
Tom

Johny Tenfinger escribió:
> Oh. I should do it yesterday or today, but forgot about it. I will fix
> it tomorrow ;)
>
> 2009/4/17, Tomas Riveros Schober :
>   
>> Hello,
>> I've just tried installing latest SHR-testing (which should be unstable
>> just merged into testing), and it works quite good. However, I cannot
>> find a way to launch certain apps (except than by using the terminal).
>> i.e. TangoGPS is nowhere to be found, but calling tangogps from the
>> terminal launches it correctly. Same thing happens with other apps shown
>> in the initial configuration screen, but somehow lost after booting to e.
>> Am I missing something incredibly stupid (it's been a while since I've
>> tried SHR), or does it work that way? If so, how can I get launchers for
>> those "missing" apps?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> Tom
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Re: [android] koolu beta 6?

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Pieter Colpaert escribió:
> http://koolu.org/releases/beta6/
>
> I never heard of this before. Anyone tried it yet? Is this a cupcake
> release (I just got used to the great soft keyboard in android 1.5!)?
>
> Is there somewhere a "working/not working" list available?
>
> Pieter
>
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I tried it the other day and it got stuck booting at a "koolu" splash 
screen, so I didn't really get too far on testing

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Re: SHR desktop icon display issue.

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann escribió:
> Am Donnerstag 23 April 2009 16:05:43 schrieb Daniel.Li:
>   
>> On Thu, 2009-04-23 at 15:47 +0200, Johny Tenfinger wrote:
>> 
>>> It's not icon issue, it's theme issue. You have selected "Illume"
>>> theme instead of "Illume SHR".
>>>   
>> Sorry, so how can i fix this theme issue.
>> It should be easy, just reset some configurations or copy image files to
>> proper folder. is that right?
>>
>> Please just let me know where or what I have to change. Thanks.
>>
>> http://palfocus.oicp.net/wiki/doku.php?id=blog:daniel:neofreerunner#shr_des
>> ktop_issue
>> 
> you can change the theme with the illume settings (the wrench in the topbar)
>
> Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann
>
>   
Well, latest SHR testing does not have Illume SHR listed as a theme 
anymore (20090422-om-gta02)

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Re: [QT*] unpredictive keyboard

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leona...@lilik.it escribió:
> Hi list,
>
> I've changed strategy on the unpredictive
> qtopia/qtextended/qtextendedimproved keyboard.
> Instead of patching the matchbox keyboard I've changed the original
> qtopia keyboard. I've stretched it a little to make it larger and higher
> and i made it unpredictable. I added another gesture: if you slide from
> bottom-right along the diagonal to up-left you can toggle prediction.
>
> here you can find the binary and the patch.
> http://leonardo.lilik.it/wordpress/2009/04/26/qtextended-keyboard-made-unpredictive/
>
> the patch is on Franky's git tree but I guess it works with any Qt*
> since the keyboard doesn't seem changed at all. The binary is for the
> qt-extended-improved I'm using..
>
> two improvements are possible:
>  - give a visual feedback when toggling prediction on/off
>  - well, there are three more diagonal gestures that could be used if
> you have ideas.
>
> now matchbox seems quite useless.
>
> feedbacks are most welcome.
>
> ciao,
> leonardo.
>   
Well, I just get a network timeout. Maybe the server is down?

Tom

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Re: [QtExtended] Latest and greatest, progress mail 10

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Franky,
Thanks for all your hard work! Do you think it would be a good idea to 
adapt your script to "upgrade" installations? what I mean is that you 
could pass an option to the script and it would only upgrade the qt 
install and then apply relevant fixes (keyboard, prediction, etc), and 
not everything else that would not be needed for an upgrade (opkg stuff, 
fixing /etc/network, others). If that sounds good I will try to adapt 
your script to do that and then report it back to you for approval

Tom

Franky Van Liedekerke escribió:
> New location for the files, watch out!
>
> (install instructions and script updated on 2090427: see below)
>
> Problems solved:
> 
> See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues-fixed.txt
>
> Latest:
>
> - 20090427: backspace key added to the keyboard, made the keyboard
> faster in non predictive mode
> - qpe.sh startup script adapted to correct for bluetooth patchs
> differences in 2.6.24 and 2.6.28 kernels. But for the moment, openmoko
> doesn't provide the bluez3 package anymore, so no bluetooth at all for
> new installs for now
>
> See http://github.com/liedekef/qtmoko/commits/master for the changes
>
> Problems found (more like small nuisances now):
> ===
> See http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qt-issues.txt
>
> Install instructions:
> =
> download the script
> http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/openmoko_install.sh , read the comments
> at the top and then execute the script on your openmoko (after having
> flashed the device and made sure internet works).
> For those who just want to replace their existing QtE: just download
> the QtE compressed file and replace your existing QtE with it:
> http://www.e-dynamics.be/openmoko/qte_20090427.tgz.
>
> Enjoy!
>
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[H:1] connectivity

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Hi List,
I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor 
GPRS from the list of apps .

I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and 
wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k? 
wpa_supplicant?

regards,

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Re: [H:1] connectivity

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Vinzenz Hersche escribió:
> On Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2009 18.21:22 Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
>   
>> Hi List,
>> I've been testing H:1 today and I could not find a way to use wifi nor
>> GPRS from the list of apps .
>>
>> I could launch wifi-radar from the terminal but my AP uses WPA and
>> wifi-radar is strange. It asks me for a driver to use WPA. is it ath6k?
>> wpa_supplicant?
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Tom
>>
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> in which distro?
>   
Hackable:1 (H:1), and I don't know if mofi works with it, since it comes 
preinstalled with wifi-radar

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Microphone busted after buzz-fix

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Hello List,

I have 2 freerunners and both were A5's. I have a friend that is 
experienced soldering and doing reworks and he performed the buzz-fix on 
both freerunners. However, one of those seems to have the microphone not 
  working anymore. The other Neo was fixed correctly (despite having 
different resistors or whatever, the interference was reduced a lot).

Any suggestions on how to diagnose it correctly?
I already loaded the A7 state file (which works wonders on the other 
neo), tried different distros.

Is there any kind of "warranty" (i know there's not an official one) 
from openmoko in case i need to ship it back to taiwan or something?

Since I'm in Chile and no local distributor is available, I had to 
perform the fix "unoficially".

Thanks for the time

Tom

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Re: Microphone busted after buzz-fix

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Thanks to everyone that answered.
I will ask my friend to re-check for shorts and see what he finds.


regards
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Re: [Qt Extended] Disabling predictive text ?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

I think that you have to delete the dictionaries for the keyboard to 
stop doing its predictive thing.
i dont have the exact location of the files at hand, but it should be 
easy to find in the wiki (or the list archives).

Tom

Chris Samuel escribió:
> Hi folks,
>
> Does anyone know if it's possible to disable the predictive
> text in the alpha-only keyboard in Qt Extended 4.4.2 ?
>
> I find the handwriting method too hard to get right and
> the full size QWERTY keyboard is too small for fingers.
>
> The purely alpha keyboard looks about the right size for
> doing an SMS, but it seems to only do predictive text with
> no way to just be able to type what you want..
>
> Anyone got any clues ?
>
> cheers,
> Chris
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Re: Android open sourced

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

anyone knows where is the changelog for this new image?
i couldn't find it anywhere.

abatrour escribió:
> A new rootfs has been released. 
> http://people.openmoko.org/sean_mcneil/
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Re: [Android] Soft keyboard

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

I'm not familiar with the android environment so here are a couple of 
questions
do I need the android SDK to install this keyboard? if I don't need it then,
how do I ssh into android once it's running? I've tried the usual 
ifconfig usb0 x.x.x.x && ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] but the connection is 
refused.
if i dont need to ssh to install it, then how to do it?

regards
Tom

Walter Chang escribió:
> i can't wait till q1 of next year for google to come out with a soft 
> keyboard so i made one.  I used the copy-and-paste functionality on 
> Android so the keyboard works with other apps without changing them.  
> to download: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/downloads/list and 
> download qad-keyboard.apk.  for instructions on installation and 
> usage: http://code.google.com/p/netgents/wiki/QadKeyboardHowto .
>
> enjoy,
>
> walter chang
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[OM-testing] change default dialer volume

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Hello list,
I've been playing around with the daily testing image and found it to be 
reasonably good. The only thing that I've not found how to do i to set 
the default in-call volume (the qtopia-dialer one) since on every call 
the volume starts at 0 so, as you can imagine, i can barely hear anything.
Anyone knows where to set the default value?

regards,
Tom

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Re: [OM-testing] change default dialer volume

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
> Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
>   
>> Hello list,
>> I've been playing around with the daily testing image and found it to be 
>> reasonably good. The only thing that I've not found how to do i to set 
>> the default in-call volume (the qtopia-dialer one) since on every call 
>> the volume starts at 0 so, as you can imagine, i can barely hear anything.
>> Anyone knows where to set the default value?
>> 
>
> As I've written in the bug #2140 two days ago, to avoid this issue the
> openembedded PhoneProfile.conf should have been updated, but it seems
> that it hasn't been.
>
> Btw you can easily fix your problem by editing the file
>  /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/PhoneProfile.conf
> Adding, for each profile, a line like:
>  CallVolume = 3
>
> More infos at [2].
>
> [1] http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/2140#comment:6
> [2]
> http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=1819dc7a500d51083b8871cd55b5e4507da329a5
>
>   
wow, thank you very much for the information, that was precisely what i 
was looking for (however, the bug is not exactly the same, since the 
phone is configured to ring, not to silence or vibrate only)

Tom

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[big C rework] Anyone in Chile doing this?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Hello list,
I wonder if anyone in Chile with a freerunner is interested in doing the 
rework proposed by joerg. I´m cuerrently checking prices and they are 
making a big discount if they repair 10 or more units.
If anyone is interested just email me.

Tom
PS. I´m going to post this to the spanish mailing list too in case 
people don´t read the english one.

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Re: Dead Neo 1973 - drained battery

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

well I've used a usb cable to boot a not-so-dead neo, and a nokia 
battery to boot one that was turned off for like a week

wim.delv...@adaptiveplanet.com escribió:
> Any way I can ressusitate this device ?
>
> W
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Re: SHR Unstable

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wp escribió:
> I'm using shr-unstable aswell, but from 13th january. Newer versions
> have not working gsm, and have that very annoying issue "program
> crashed and left no error log" when accesing contacts or messages. I'm
> flashing every new images to see if it is solved, because this the
> best distribution I used so far. Good work!
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I've been using shr unstable from jan 23rd and I can confirm the 
crashing. It did, however worked great until I tried to start 
numptyphysics (meaning I could send and receive calls without any 
issues, and they were echo-free). After starting numpty, the neo crashed 
badly i.e. screen not responding and filled with different colors 
vertical lines, so i had to remove the battery and start the phone 
again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the 
time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM

Regards,
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Re: SHR Unstable

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Michael Sheldon escribió:
> Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
>   
>> so i had to remove the battery and start the phone 
>> again. After that the dialer app has never worked (crashes all the 
>> time), and neither does contacts or anything that accesses the SIM
>> 
>
>   Have you checked to make sure that your SIM is seated correctly? Try 
> removing it and putting it back in to make sure, it's possible that when 
> removing the battery you opened the SIM holder's catches slightly and 
> it's no longer making correct contact.
>
>   Cheers,
>Mike
I've just reseated the sim card and I still have crashes on both apps 
(also, the contacts apps no longer shos anything, it's like it cannot 
read it properly anymore)

regards,
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Re: what tests for (non working) 3G SIM?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

well, I had a non-working 3g card, but did the firmware upgrade and it 
works ok now.
so i suggest you do the same

Tom

Chris Syntichakis escribió:
> Hi,
>
> As I see the SIM from 3mobile (UK) is not working with the GTA02v6 (running
> SHR unstable).
>
> Should I run any debugging tests (just for your info..)?
> If so, what can I do?
>
> Chris
>
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Re: Buzz fix attempt, tomorrow

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Yoann ARNAUD escribió:
> Yoann ARNAUD a écrit :
>
>   
>> I'll try to make the pictures available tonight.
>> 
>
> Here they are :
>
> http://perso.crans.org/yarnaud/Openmoko/Buzz_Fix/
>
>
>   
is this buzz + bass fixes? because the reference pictures from the SOP 
paper don't show that second thing you soldered (not the yellow one, the 
other)

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Re: Questions about the usability of GTA02

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Well, now that my "regular" phone is on repairs, I've been using my neo 
as my main phone without major issues (just a little bit of buzz and low 
volume, but nothing extreme).
It is currently running the "fixed" QtExtended 4.4.2 with the echo patch 
kindly posted by Chris  Samuel (which works wonders by the way - never 
had any echo complains anymore)
I can use it for gprs but so far not for wifi

Tom

Juergen Schinker escribió:
> bytestore wrote:
>   
>> Freerunner is my daily phone, my hobby,my freeing, my satisfaction
>> its help me on the work (terminal, gps, gprs)  
>> se w300i is my second phone (only phone and photomaker)
>> 
>
> please everyone who uses the freerunner as a daily phone
>
> always mention how e.g with which distribution software etc.
>
> i'm happy for everyone who does but i desperatly want to use it as well
>
> as a phone...
>
>
> BTW: i use my desktop as a daily desktop !?!
>
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Re: Qt Extended update ?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Al Johnson escribió:
> On Saturday 31 January 2009, Joerg Lippmann wrote:
>   
>> Am Montag 26 Januar 2009 schrieb HouYu Li:
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Chris Samuel  wrote:
>>>   
 Does anyone know if there's any updates for Qt Extended in the pipeline
 ?
 
>>> I am looking forward to it.
>>>   
>> Does the silence here mean that no one here is working on QtE or that no
>> one can/wants to give any information?
>> 
>
> Probably.
>   
Well, you can always build it from source 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qtopia#Installation_option_4:_updating_from_source
however, it is not clear to me if we _have_ to start from the current 
rootfs (meaning flashing QtExtended, then compiling and scp'ing the 
updated binaries into the neo), or if we can start from, say, a 
"minimal" rootfs (fso console comes to mind) and then install QtE on it.

regards
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Re: QT Extended GPRS

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Jelle De Loecker escribió:
> Good morning everyone,
>
> I've flashed the latest QT Extended image, once with mwester's kernel, 
> once with the kernel supplied in the package.
> To get GPRS working I tried these instructions: http://tinyurl.com/dysvkn
> (Which made me download a set of packages from mwester's site)
>
> For some reason, though, whenever the phone would initiate gprs it would 
> completely freeze...
>
> Has anyone else encountered the same problem?
>
> Greetings,
> Jelle De Loecker
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no, but my gprs works fine after setting it up using the gui (setting 
the dns myself using the opendns one) and manually editing 
/etc/resolv.conf  and /etc/ppp/resolv.conf to the opendns values since 
somehow only using the gui managed to connect but not resolve names 
properly.

Tom

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

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and...@howlett.net escribió:
> Hi all,
>
> Just getting started with FreeRuner and thought I would share my 
> experience building Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. Follow this link for the 
> details:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:Radagast#Qt_Extended_SDK
>
> later,
> andrew.
> 
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Thanks for your work!
I've been trying to build QtE too, however, I'm trying to build it using 
FSO as the base image, using the FSO toolchain as mwester's page.
However I've not been successful so far (it complains about not finding 
dbus-1, I will be trying to debug it and get it to work all day today so 
I'll report back if i get to something)
The main idea is to modernize the underlying rootfs for qtextended, so 
we can benefit from all the kernel bugfixing and all that (and faster 
boot times!)

regards
Tom

PS. your instructions are indeed very helpful

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Daniel.Li escribió:
> Dear Andrew,
> Thanks for the great work.
>
> I'm using ubuntu 8.10 to compile the Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK.
> I have updated qt lib on ubuntu, still can't fix the problem? 
> Any ideas?
>
> $ $QTOPIA_DEPOT_PATH/configure -device neo -D _FORTIFY_SOURCE=0
>
> This is the Qt Extended Open Source Edition.
>
> You are licensed to use this software under the terms of the GPL.
> Please see the file LICENSE.GPL for the licensing terms.
>
> Type 'yes' to accept this license offer.
> Type 'no' to decline this license offer.
>
> Do you accept this license agreement? yes
>
> Testing the system Qt: FAIL
> Qt Extended requires Qt 4.3 or higher to be installed.
> You must have qmake in your PATH.
> If your system's package manager does not provide Qt 4 development
> libraries
> please see the Guide to Configuring and Building Qt Extended for
> information
> on how to build Qt from the included source or pass -build-qt to
> configure
> and it will build Qt for you (and then bootstrap QBuild from that).
> make: *** [src/build/mkconf/configure] Error 2
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 15:23 +, and...@howlett.net wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Just getting started with FreeRuner and thought I would share my
>> experience building Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK. Follow this link for the
>> details:
>>
>> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:R
>> dagast#Qt_Extended_SDK
>>
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You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think that 
should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install what 
you see fit)

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[QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Hello list!
as some might have noticed, I've been struggling with my efforts to 
build QtExtended on FSO as specified on mwester's page[1]. Today I've 
been successful on building the whole pack of stuff and run it on my 
neo. So here's my report to whoever is interested (skip down to just 
check out what works and what doesn't):

Built on Ubuntu 8.04, using backported Qt.

First thing I built was FSO, but since fso-testing was not compiling 
(some packages were missing from the src repos), i decided to compile 
fso-m5. All was good (takes a long time!!).
So i built the images, then built the nox version and then the 
toolchain. All was good.
To build QtExtended was another story. No matter what I did, it would 
always complain about not finding libdbus-1 when using FSO's toolchain. 
I tried all the pkg-config wizardry I could come up with but nothing 
worked in the end, so I ended up compiling QtE using nokia's toolchain.
If anyone got any tips on how to compile QtE using FSO's toolchain, I'd 
love to know them.
So after everything was built I flashed the whole pack into the phone 
and installed QtE as mwester's instructions (thanks!), only to realize 
that 2.6.28 is terribly supported under QtE, and would kill the screen 
upon resume from suspend, and also, most thing would freeze up and just 
die a painful death.

Then I flashed a 2.6.24 kernel from openmoko's daily build[2], together 
with the modules and console image, then installed QtE again and bam! 
all was working. This is what I've tested so far:

working good:
suspend and resume
power management changes (which didn't work properly on 4.4.2)
UI speed (way better than 4.4.2)
boot speed (boots in under a minute in my phone)
GSM (it unregistered once, maybe a one-time issue), but phone quality is 
superb, and it never happened again.

not working so good:
Wifi (can register, but won't update /etc/resolv.conf so no dns, and it 
will stop working after a suspend, to never come back)

did not test yet:
GPRS (however, it was working perfectly in 4.4.2 so I assume this is 
still the case)
GPS
Bluetooth (same as gprs, was fine before)

so, if anyone was thinking about compiling 4.4.3 snapshots to get better 
networking...well, I cannot say I reccomend it since it did not fix the 
dns issues that 4.4.2 has, but it is indeed way speedier.
If anyone wants to try it, I can upload the whole set of images 
somewhere, or maybe a full backup of my phone so people can try it for 
themselves (just please notice that this is highly experimental and 
probably not very well built)

hope I didn't bore you with this lengthy post.

[1]http://moko.mwester.net/qtextended.html
[2]http://downloads.openmoko.org/distro/testing/

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a 
bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be 
able to start qtopia.
I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but it is 
just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy

Tom

HouYu Li escribió:
> Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs image? 
> I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner 
> with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help?
>
> On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li  <mailto:lida_m...@163.com>> wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> > You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages (i think
> > that
> > should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and install
> > what
> > you see fit)
>
> Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems didn't
> work.
> I think there must be something else that should be installed.
>
> $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
> qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version.
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

That jffs2 file will give you a barebones fso install, to which you have 
to copy your compiled qtopia package and then untar, unzip and install.
You can follow these instructions to do that (taken from mwester's website):

ssh to the phone
(do these ones on the phone)
wget http://moko.mwester.net/download/apm-qtopia-v2.tgz
tar -xzf apm-qtopia-v2.tgz
cd apm-qtopia-v2
./install.sh
| ln -s /etc/init.d/qpe /etc/rc5.d/S98qpe
||mkdir /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia|
|
(do this on the host)
scp /path/to/qtextended.tgz r...@192.168.0.202:/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia

(do this on the phone)
cd ||/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia|
|tar xzf qtextended.tgz
cp ||/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/qpe.sh /etc/init.d/qpe

Now restart and QtE will boot next time instead of the console image.
I have a prebuilt qtextended 4.4.3 snapshot tarball in 
http://triveros.go.dyndns.org/qtopia/qtefso.tgz in case you don't feel 
like building your own tarball (this is vanilla, no patches applied)

regards
Tom

|HouYu Li escribió:
> Ok, I really downloaded a rootfs tarball from 
> http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=4, the first 
> one. And created a .jffs2 file sucessfully. And then flash it to my 
> freerunner. But I cannot start it.
>
> Do you know any tutorials on how to use qtopia with fso rootfs?? And I 
> am happy to see how you do it...
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Tomas Riveros Schober 
> mailto:trive...@enable.cl>> wrote:
>
> You don't really get a rootfs after the compilation, but more like a
> bunch of binary files that you have to blast to a proper rootfs to be
> able to start qtopia.
> I can share my experiment with qtopia on fso if you guys want, but
> it is
> just a backup of my phone, so it's nothing fancy
>
> Tom
>
> HouYu Li escribió:
> > Hi, Is it possible to have a tutorial on how to create a rootfs
> image?
> > I can build qte sucessfully but I cannot start qte on my freerunner
> > with the default rootfs from qtextended.org any help?
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Daniel.Li  <mailto:lida_m...@163.com>
> > <mailto:lida_m...@163.com <mailto:lida_m...@163.com>>> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 12:13 -0300, Tomas Riveros Schober wrote:
> > > You need to install the qt4-dev-tools, libqt4-dev packages
> (i think
> > > that
> > > should pull all dependencies, else just search for qt4 and
> install
> > > what
> > > you see fit)
> >
> > Humm,, I know what u mean. I have tried this, but it seems
> didn't
> > work.
> > I think there must be something else that should be installed.
> >
> > $ sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev qt4-dev-tools
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > libqt4-dev is already the newest version.
> > qt4-dev-tools is already the newest version.
> > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> >
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Re: OE git problem?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Daniel.Li escribió:
> Dear Fellows,
> I have posted this yesterday. It seems that I have mail the wrong place.
> Did anyone met this before, or simply direct me to the right direction.
>
> Any help is mostly appreciated. THanks.
>
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 21:17 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
>   
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Did anyone meet this before? How can I fix the problem? Thanks in
>> advance.
>>
>> $ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded openembedded
>> Initialized empty Git repository
>> in /home/daniel/work4/FSO/openembedded/.git/
>> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
>> fatal: early EOF
>> fatal: index-pack failed
>>
>>
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I'm a total noob, but so far things look good:

$ git clone git://git.openembedded.net/openembedded openembedded
Initialized empty Git repository in /home/tomas/OE/openembedded/.git/
remote: Counting objects: 271863, done.
remote: Compressing objects: 100% (95864/95864), done.
Receiving objects:   1% (3659/271863), 507.99 KiB | 330 KiB/s

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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 Feed

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

and...@howlett.net escribió:
> I couldn't find any good Qt Extended 4.4.2 feeds so I made my own:
>
> http://radagast.bglug.ca/neo
>
> All Qt Extended 4.4.2 users are welcome to use it. If you want me to 
> add your package email it to me at and...@nospampleasehowlett.net  
> (remove the nospamplease to form the correct email address).
>
> So far I've got the example app, qtgps and qterminal in the feed.
>
> later,
> andrew.
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Thanks for the repo, but so far qterminal doesn't work in 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 
just compiled (doesn't crash either, but it's only showing the keyboard, 
and the screen freezes)

regards
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Re: Qt Extended 4.4.2 SDK Build Instructions

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Answering on-list:

Daniel.Li escribió:
> Dear Tom
>
> Thanks for ur help. It works :)
>
> Well, I'm a fresh-man to Qt. 
>
> I have a few question about QT extension, and sorry for below dumb
> questions :(
> a) QT is a library of GUI, is it right?
>   
QT is a gui toolkit, which is used to build QtExtended and many othe 
applications
> b) Which driver is QT based on?  Can u point me to the right direction?
> Thanks. 
>   
I don't get this question...if you mean which distro is the QtE image 
based on, it's based on 2008.x unstable
> c) How can I install QT extension? Does I need a basic console file
> system? How can I build this simple basic file system?
>   
You can get a basic console system from 
http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/ and selecting the "console" image.
After you flash that you can install QtE on it like an application.
> d) I have done with the last two steps
> -->bin/qbuild image
> -->bin/qbuild sdk
>   
good! that should give you both the QtExtended binaries and the 
QtExtended SDK
> e) I need to develop a 3-D QT application, how can I use openGL? 
>
>   
I don't think QtE can use OpenGL, since it's using the framebuffer to 
draw the screen. It doesn't use X, so i believe that you're out of luck 
in that regard.
> Any advise and tips are mostly appreciated. Thanks very much for ur
> help!
>
> :)
>
> On Sun, 2009-02-22 at 00:08 +0800, Daniel.Li wrote:
>   
>>> did you ever try it with -build-qt? because i once did that and it 
>>> borked my qt installI basically had to remove the build
>>>   
>> directory 
>> 
>>> and start over.
>>>   
>> Well, it's compiling now. Thanks. 
>> And I have no idea when it'll be done, I have to go back to sleep,
>> cause
>> mid-night:)
>> Report back to u tomorrow :) (GMT+8 timezone)
>>
>> Thanks again.
>> 


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Re: build fso image erorr

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

HouYu Li escribió:
> Hi, Danie, I have the same problem...
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Daniel.Li  > wrote:
>
> Dear All,
> I followed http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Building_FSO to build
> fsoMakefile and found following error, which can't get resolved in
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Talk:MokoMakefile .
>
> Did I miss something?
>
> Any help is mostly appreciated! Thanks.
>
> > an...@daniel-laptop:~/work4/FSO$ make fso-gta02-testing-image
> > ( cd fso-testing ; \
> > make setup-image-fso-image ; \
> > make setup-machine-om-gta02 ; \
> > make -k image )
> > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing'
> > ( grep "IMAGE_TARGET = \"fso-image\"" conf/auto.conf > /dev/null
> ) || \
> >   sed -i -e
> 's/^IMAGE_TARGET[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*\".*\"/IMAGE_TARGET =
> \"fso-image\"/' conf/auto.conf
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing'
> > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing'
> > ( grep "MACHINE = \"om-gta02\"" conf/auto.conf > /dev/null ) || \
> >   sed -i -e
> 's/^MACHINE[[:space:]]*=[[:space:]]*\".*\"/MACHINE =
> \"om-gta02\"/' conf/auto.conf
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing'
> > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing'
> > . conf/topdir.conf && test "`pwd`" = "$TOPDIR" || echo
> "TOPDIR='`pwd`'" > conf/topdir.conf
> > . ./setup-env; exec bitbake "fso-image"
> > NOTE: Psyco JIT Compiler (http://psyco.sf.net) not available.
> Install it to increase performance.
> > NOTE: Handling BitBake files: | (6580/6580) [100 %]
> > NOTE: Parsing finished. 0 cached, 6301 parsed, 279 skipped, 0
> masked.
> > NOTE: build 200902240731: started
> >
> > OE Build Configuration:
> > BB_VERSION= "1.8.13"
> > METADATA_BRANCH   = "org.openembedded.dev"
> > METADATA_REVISION = "d5ab9dee3874c2b0e871e626cf3bc0220cd038c4"
> > TARGET_ARCH   = "arm"
> > TARGET_OS = "linux-gnueabi"
> > MACHINE   = "om-gta02"
> > DISTRO= "openmoko"
> > DISTRO_VERSION= "-20090223"
> > TARGET_FPU= "soft"
> >
> > ERROR: Nothing PROVIDES 'fso-image'
> > make[1]: *** [image] Error 1
> > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/work4/FSO/fso-testing'
> > make: *** [fso-gta02-testing-image] Error 2
>
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I ended up passing the command make fso-gta02-milestone5-image and it 
worked. No clue why testing and unstable are broken

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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Yes usb networking is running after the second reboot.
to fix the echo you have to patch it according to 
http://www.csamuel.org/2009/01/08/echo-suppression-fix-for-qt-extended-442-on-openmoko-neo
 
(or just download the patched binary)

Tom

HouYu Li escribió:
> I am also able to build the latest qt-extended snapshots. Is the usb0 
> network running? I am not able to get it work. And .. the phone 
> "echo" is still not fixed..
>
> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM, Ali  > wrote:
>
> Very nice! Ever since I saw it on mwester's page i've been wanting
> to do
> this, but ran into an error and haven't had know how/time to
> investigate. I love the pim features of qt extended but the lack of
> packages make it quite boring. Is it possible to run an xserver
> simultaneously so I can run other applications than qt ones? I would
> really appreciate a jffs2 image of the rootfs. Mwester has stuff at
> http://moko.mwester.net/dl.html#qtx_on_fso but I think it's
> somewhat old
> now and it didn't work when I last tried it.
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Re: [QtExtended] Report on 4.4.3 src on FSO

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Daniel.Li escribió:
> On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:16 +0800, HouYu Li wrote:
>   
>> Hi, Tom. Thank you for you instruction although I haven't try it. And
>> I just made a compile on qtextended snapshot 20090223, no patches
>> applied. And I made a rootfs image and a tarball with the daily build
>> nox rootfs and 2.6.24 kernel (20090223) from downloads.openmoko.org.
>> You can get it here:
>> http://dashi-x02.karadog.net/~lihouyu/qtextended/. I haven't give it a
>> test. I will do it after work today. If anyone would like to try, just
>> download it. Hope it gives you a lot of fun.
>> 
>
> BTW, what can I get the source code ver 4.4.3. I have tried wiki link,
> but I didn't find any.
>
> Could u please direct me to the right place? Thanks.
>   
http://qtextended.org/downloads/snapshots/

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Re: FDOM (FAT and Dirty Openmoko) Distribution ready to download

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

I used to have kernel panics too, and it was due to an incomplete 
download on my side.
finished the download with wget -c and flashed again and everything was 
working great.
hope its something like that and you solve your issue

Shawn Thompson escribió:
> David,
> This looks like a great image idea for having a prepackaged 
> all-in-one. The only problem I found is that for some reason I kept 
> getting kernel panics so I'm back off to stock OM2008.8 for now but will 
> try downloading and flashing again tonight.
>
> -Shawn
>
> David Samblas wrote:
>   
>> Hi there,
>> you have aviable on http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM a 
>> rootfs/kenel  image ready to flash of an OM2008.08-updates 
>> distribution with some apps already installed and some fixes posted in 
>> the lists done.
>>
>> here you have more detailed information
>>
>> http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM/README.txt
>>
>> I recommend you to use wget -c to retrieve the files because of the 
>> server seems to cut the connection time to time, a most robust mirror 
>> is on the way
>>
>> Sugesstions , comments, and anything else will be welcome
>>
>> Regards and a hug
>>
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Re: Mac USB Networking

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

What im doing is using a vmware virtual machine with linux mint 
installed (it was the only image i had lying around in my hd),
so i just share the network using NAT and then the trick in the wiki 
(linux simple networking) after plugging the FR with the virtual machine 
focused.
that way i can df-utils and get usb network to the FR.

hope it helps!

Warren Baird escribió:
> I had slightly more luck with the opensource zaurus driver also 
> mentioned on the mac page - but I found neither solution worked well - 
> after rebooting 6 or 7 times I think I managed to get the USB 
> networking going once.   I'm afraid I gave up and ended up just using 
> a linux server that I was fortunate to have access to...
>
> I tried briefly using a Linux vmware image, but I also couldn't get 
> that working.
>
> If anyone else has managed to get this to work, I'd love to hear about 
> it...
>
> Warren
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 6:25 PM, Lally Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>  Just got the FR yesterday (nice physical design).  I installed the
> patched network driver listed under "Apple CDC Ethernet driver
> 10.5.x," and the Networking pane shows a USB serial connection, but no
> ethernet.  It also does not show up as enXX in ifconfig.
>
>  This is OS X 10.5.4.   I can use dfu-util fine.
>  But, I haven't found
> a way to get the wifi working yet, so the device is networkless.
>
>  Anyone else have a mac with a working usb networking setup?  What'd
> you do?  I'll happily update the wiki with the result.
>
> Here's my ifconfig when the device is plugged in (this was right
> before I did the dfu-util reflash):
> lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384
>inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1
>inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 0xff00
>inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
>inet6 fd5d:a24b:2849:fed7:217:f2ff:fece:65ba prefixlen 128
> gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280
> stf0: flags=0<> mtu 1280
> en0: flags=8863 mtu 1500
>ether 00:17:f2:ce:65:ba
>media: autoselect status: inactive
>supported media: autoselect 10baseT/UTP 
> 10baseT/UTP
>  10baseT/UTP  10baseT/UTP
>  100baseTX  100baseTX
>  100baseTX  100baseTX
>  1000baseT  1000baseT
>  1000baseT  none
> fw0: flags=8822 mtu 2030
>lladdr 00:19:e3:ff:fe:22:6b:5c
>media: autoselect  status: inactive
>supported media: autoselect 
> en1: flags=8863 mtu 1500
>inet6 fe80::219:e3ff:fe04:85c2%en1 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x6
>inet 10.0.1.2  netmask 0xff00
> broadcast 10.0.1.255 
>ether 00:19:e3:04:85:c2
>media: autoselect status: active
>supported media: autoselect
> vmnet8: flags=8863
> mtu 1500
>inet 172.16.1.1  netmask 0xff00
> broadcast 172.16.1.255 
>ether 00:50:56:c0:00:08
> vmnet1: flags=8863
> mtu 1500
>inet 172.16.74.1  netmask 0xff00
> broadcast 172.16.74.255 
>ether 00:50:56:c0:00:01
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> -ls
>
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Re: FDOM updated

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

Thank you very much for this!
im still downloading this one, but if its as good as the last one, then 
its gonna rock!

btw, thanks for the info about qtopia crashing afer an opkg 
update/upgrade, it was driving me nuts

Tom

David Samblas escribió:
> see wiki page for more details (thanks to all that help to mantain and
> correct it)
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FDOM_-_a_Fat_and_Dirty_OM_based_distribution
>
> Added Pidgin, and Remoko and something else :)
>
> http://compartida.net/openmoko/FDOM
>
> Regards 
> David Samblas 
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Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

yes, im trying to access my voicemail inbox #123
and the dialer goes poof.
tried in both 2008.8 and qtopia so i think its related to qpe

andres escribió:
> is this something happening to others?
> if I dial a string that starts with # or * (such as those to access 
> phone carrier features)
> the dialer crashes and goes puff,
>
>
> 
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Re: 2008.8 default dialer crash on # or *

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

I'd love to test a patched binary, but im not really in a hurry so 
knowing that the patch is already commited is still great news.

thanks treviño

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Re: Idea for Openmoko application: Tide updates

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

well i think the gps can give you the altitute, albeit not very precise, 
but it works fine.

Crane, Matthew escribió:
> It would be a pretty straight forward project to make a ez-usb key with a 
> magnetometer and pressure sensor.  
>
> But maybe it's easier to flywire inside case as I think these chips would be 
> pretty tiny. 
>
> Of course, it would be super cool to productize a ez-usb project and make it 
> a full sensor add on kit, with gyro, temp, 3d magnetometer, and air pressure. 
>  Make a package that fits flush with the moko frame. 
>
> Air pressure sensor:
>
> http://www.vti.fi/en/products/pressure-sensors/
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Denis Galvão
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 8:53 AM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: Idea for Openmoko application: Tide updates
>
>
> On 18/09/2008, at 01:56, Adam Bogacki wrote:
>   
>> I like the concept and would like to volunteer to test a prototype in
>> New Zealand conditions.
>> 
>
>
> For sure Adam.
>
> Like Michael said, we should start something in the wiki.
>
> I was looking for something similar and found this:
> http://www.sonimtech.com/
>
> This is what Im looking for, at least as a water proof case.
>
> Is this possible to use the actual GTA_02 hardware version to do:
> - Compass ?
> - Altimeter ?
>
> How should be the best way to have this information on the phone?  
> Using an external hardware module?
>
> Cheers,
> --
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> Brazil
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Re: FDOM 2008.9 update?

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

i read a couple messages ago that its being worked on.
so, being patient or getting involved are the only 2 options for now...

regards

Tom

Glen Ogilvie escribió:
> Hi,
>
> I enjoyed using FDOM, with the already configured stuff it was nice and
> easy to get things working.
>
> Is the going to be an update that is based on om2008.9 release?
>
> Regards
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Re: dead battery

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

well whenever im hit with a "dead battery" i just plug the freerunner to 
the computer's usb port and let it sit for a few minutes then turn it on 
to NOR...or NAND whichever one works first

Paul escribió:
> Joel Newkirk wrote:
>   
>> A desktop charger for a Nokia BL-5c or BL-6c battery will do the job, at
>> least the two non-Nokia ones I've tried.  I've done it a few times.  I've
>> never let it sit on the charger until full, so I don't know if the charger
>> can recognize full charge on the FreeRunner battery or not, but left on the
>> charger for 15-20 minutes it will boot the FreeRunner.
>>   
>> 
>
> Very useful to know, thank you. I am anxiously waiting for my FR to arrive.
>
> I wonder about something: does a FR come with charged batteries?? One 
> would expect so, otherwise it can never be started/used.
>
> Am I correct in this?
>
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Re: dead battery

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

try again and it will eventually workthe usb cable connected to the 
computer is usually the way to go...and when it boots, quickly swap it 
to the ac charger...at least that's what i just did (my neo died during 
the night)


Vince M. Clark escribió:
> Well, I'm out of options. I left my fr plugged into the trickle 
> charger overnight. Still won't boot.
>
> Then I read this last post, about removing the battery long enough for 
> a reset, plugging into USB for 5-10 min, unplug/pause/plug back in. 
> Still won't boot.
>
> The only thing I haven't done that was recommended in this last post 
> is to use the latest u-boot. Unfortunately I cannot do this until I 
> get it to boot. Guess I will wait for my external charger to arrive.
>
> Should I be concerned that this isn't just a battery issue and maybe 
> my fr is dead?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "William Kenworthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 1, 2008 12:01:52 AM (GMT-0700) America/Denver
> Subject: Re: dead battery
>
> These are my understandings from lots of reading and previous posts
> between myself and Andy Green and others on the subject - should all be
> in the archives.  With 2007.2 I was hit one out of every 3 overnight
> suspends ending in a flat battery.  At least with 2008.9 its rarer (but
> does happen :(
>
> With the later u-boots, usb default is 100ma as soon as its plugged in.
> This unfortunately is less than a running Fr needs.  Normally as soon as
> the operating system is up enough, it will negotiate up to 500ma with
> the host, or in the case of the wall charger, read the sense resistor
> and see that 1A is available.  When the OS is suspended, the PMU manages
> the charge until the battery is charged whereupon it switches off - and
> stays off.  If the OS is running, it will cycle back on when the battery
> level falls to 10-20% (reports vary) as the OS can reset and renegotiate
> the charge level.
>
> If the battery is very low (i.e., the internal fail-safe disconnects
> it), remove it from the phone for 30 seconds or so.  This allows the
> fail-safe to reset (this is what I think happens based on my
> observations) so the 100ma can get to the battery, and also reset the
> phone hardware - in particular the GSM modem which is directly connected
> to the battery and is thought to be root cause by Andy Green - possibly
> goes into a wierd state as power drops as well, preventing restart until
> reset.
>
> The power rail of course drops due to the inrush current much more
> during startup with a low battery than normal, causing one chip (USB I
> think) to detect a dangerously low voltage and issue a shutdown.  So you
> cant get the phone to boot until the battery has had a few minutes of
> charge.
>
> In my case, USB to my laptop or a desktop machine does it.
> Remove/pause/replace battery
> plug into USB for 5-10 minutes
> remove/pause/replug USB cable and normal boot will happen within a few
> seconds.
>
> The wall charger should work as well, but on my one try it didnt -
> possibly because the u-boot wasnt new enough at the time.
>
> Recommendation - use a late (latest!) u-boot.
>
> BillK
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 22:13 -0700, Michael Shiloh wrote:
> > > Vince,
> > > When my battery died I plugged my phone into the OpenMoko 
> supplied
> > > charger, started it using NOR boot, leaving it at the boot menu 
> until it
> > > timed out (repeat that twice) then I was about to select boot from 
> the
> > > NOR menu and after a few extra seconds the phone booted.
> > >
> > > -Shawn
> > >
> >
> > I'm confused. I thought that we didn't turn on the charger until we
> > booted into Linux. Am I wrong? Do we charge in u-boot, even at a low 
> rate?
> >
> > Michael
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Re: The Lost Openmoko Community

[Tomas Riveros Schober]

My brother feels exactly like you.
he's not really a techie and depends on me for most stuffhowever i 
tought him how to report bugs and watch the tracker, but he gets 
dissapointed that whenever he tries to report something its either 
already there or he doesnt have the logs required.
Thing is, he packed his freerunner in the box and saved it for when its 
more developed (aka, ready).
I'm more of a tinkerer so im happy to have a half-assed phone, with lots 
of noise and echo and not a good alarm (i had to buy something else to 
wake me in the morning reliably), and usually flash every other distro 
every other day and test stuff.

However, I do believe that there's lack of community communication with 
openmoko...we dont know their plan or priorities (ie, for many many 
users, first and foremost we need a phone without noise or echo, but 
there seems to be little done by openmoko in that area).
Also showing lack of focus is the releases. There have been some patches 
that dont appear to be implemented in 2008.x but FDOM has had it since 
the beginning (gtk fix, dns resolv, or the infamous keyboard debate)

I think that's it for now, sorry for the long post, but it's 2 users 
around here.

Tom

Risto H. Kurppa escribió:
>
> BUGS
> I don't know how others feel but I really don't feel like reporting
> bugs in the bug tracker [3]. OK, I'm running an unsupported distro
> (2007.2) so there's one reason but I also feel that it's okay to post
> kernel bugs only there, not anything that a normal user would see in
> his GUI. Is this correct or just a feeling or misunderstanding?
> Remember that all Freerunner owners and people here in the community
> are not kernel developers. I don't even know how to save back traces
> or hack the source code but I'm happy to report if something doesn't
> work and then when someone more skillful finds what's wrong and
> eventually fixes it, I'm again happy to try if the fix works for me.
> For some reason I feel that there's no space in the community for
> users like me.
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