Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss]

Hi Owen,

 

I can tell you that notices like this for LACNIC or IETF aren’t working the 
same with all the airlines …

 

Iberia refunded me some tickets. BA not yet (it seems now I may get a refund 
now because Iberia cancelled one of the legs).

 

However, Iberia can’t refund neither waive the cancellation/change fees for my 
LACNIC flight because it is for May and the coverage is only until a previous 
date.

 

For Kinshasa, Royal Air Maroc when I looked for this once I saw the email, was 
not allowing anything for flights in June.

 

Of course, the situation for all the airlines is changing quickly, but also 
knowing if it is a canceled meeting or postponed meeting helps to take a 
decision about changing (and sometimes it can be done at a later date) or 
refunding (which means that if you buy it later in a closer date to the 
meeting, it will become more expensive, most probably).

 

If the meeting is canceled, a voucher for 1 year doesn’t work for all, the 
destination may be covered by a different airline, or the 1 year may be from 
the voucher date, etc. Iberia for example only provides vouchers valid to be 
used until end of 2020 and excludes “vacations” periods.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 18/3/20 19:21, "Owen DeLong"  escribió:

 

This notice would be enough for most airlines (at least in the US).

 

In most cases, you can work with the airline and receive at least the following:

 

    1.    Change fees waived.

    2.    Ticket value is placed on file as a credit to be 
used to purchase a future flight.

    3.    Purchase must be made within one year or credit 
expires.

 

Owen

 



On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:14 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss 
 wrote:

 

Hi Nancy, all,

 

If I understand correctly, it means also the AFRINIC meeting part will not take 
place.

 

Some of us book the flights quite early, from our own pockets, and to make them 
cheap they are non-refundable.

 

Due to the circumstances of the Covid19, the airlines are offering free changes 
but only if the destination country is blocking the participants or not 
allowing meetings, which at the moment don’t seems to be the case, and in some 
cases ONLY changes, not refunding.

 

Furthermore, if they allow ONLY changes, we need to indicate the dates for the 
change and must be in the next 12 months, typically.

 

So, it is EXTREMELY URGENT to either, cancel the meeting, or announce 
immediately the new dates (and the city if is not the same).

 

Otherwise we will be in a situation of not only wasting our time but also our 
money.

 

I will suggest, as other RIRs and the IETF has done, to definitively cancel the 
meeting, due to the uncertainty of the situation and doing it online.

 

Changing the dates not only means possible conflicts with other events, but 
also that people that must participate in certain sessions (example Policy 
meeting), not being able to be there even remotely.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 18/3/20 16:58, "afnog en nombre de nancy dotse"  escribió:

 

Dear All,

Good afternoon.

On 16 March 2020, AfNOG, AFRINIC and the Local Host (ISPA-DRC) had another 
meeting to re-assess the Corona Virus pandemic as well as logistic issues.

Unfortunately we concluded that a change of plans was mandatory to safeguard 
the health of our members, community and staff. 

Thus, we agreed that it is best to postpone the AIS 2020  Workshop & Conference 
to a later date. We will continue to monitor the situation and adopt 
precautionary measures to ensure everyone’s well-being.

Further, we will communicate  decisions taken in consultation with all 
stakeholders, and will advise on new AIS 2020 dates and

the way forward in due course.

Please stay safe.

Kind regards

Nancy

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Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT

[Owen DeLong]

This notice would be enough for most airlines (at least in the US).

In most cases, you can work with the airline and receive at least the following:

1.  Change fees waived.
2.  Ticket value is placed on file as a credit to be used to 
purchase a future flight.
3.  Purchase must be made within one year or credit expires.

Owen


> On Mar 18, 2020, at 11:14 , JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Nancy, all,
>  
> If I understand correctly, it means also the AFRINIC meeting part will not 
> take place.
>  
> Some of us book the flights quite early, from our own pockets, and to make 
> them cheap they are non-refundable.
>  
> Due to the circumstances of the Covid19, the airlines are offering free 
> changes but only if the destination country is blocking the participants or 
> not allowing meetings, which at the moment don’t seems to be the case, and in 
> some cases ONLY changes, not refunding.
>  
> Furthermore, if they allow ONLY changes, we need to indicate the dates for 
> the change and must be in the next 12 months, typically.
>  
> So, it is EXTREMELY URGENT to either, cancel the meeting, or announce 
> immediately the new dates (and the city if is not the same).
>  
> Otherwise we will be in a situation of not only wasting our time but also our 
> money.
>  
> I will suggest, as other RIRs and the IETF has done, to definitively cancel 
> the meeting, due to the uncertainty of the situation and doing it online.
>  
> Changing the dates not only means possible conflicts with other events, but 
> also that people that must participate in certain sessions (example Policy 
> meeting), not being able to be there even remotely.
>  
> Regards,
> Jordi
> 
> @jordipalet
> 
>  
> 
>  
>  
> El 18/3/20 16:58, "afnog en nombre de nancy dotse"   en nombre de na...@ghana.com 
> > escribió:
>  
> Dear All,
> 
> Good afternoon.
> 
> On 16 March 2020, AfNOG, AFRINIC and the Local Host (ISPA-DRC) had another 
> meeting to re-assess the Corona Virus pandemic as well as logistic issues.
> 
> Unfortunately we concluded that a change of plans was mandatory to safeguard 
> the health of our members, community and staff. 
> 
> Thus, we agreed that it is best to postpone the AIS 2020  Workshop & 
> Conference to a later date. We will continue to monitor the situation and 
> adopt precautionary measures to ensure everyone’s well-being.
> 
> Further, we will communicate  decisions taken in consultation with all 
> stakeholders, and will advise on new AIS 2020 dates and
> 
> the way forward in due course.
> 
> Please stay safe.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Nancy
> 
> AfNOG
> 
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Re: [Community-Discuss] [afnog] AIS 2020 - POSTPONEMENT

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss]

Hi Nancy, all,

 

If I understand correctly, it means also the AFRINIC meeting part will not take 
place.

 

Some of us book the flights quite early, from our own pockets, and to make them 
cheap they are non-refundable.

 

Due to the circumstances of the Covid19, the airlines are offering free changes 
but only if the destination country is blocking the participants or not 
allowing meetings, which at the moment don’t seems to be the case, and in some 
cases ONLY changes, not refunding.

 

Furthermore, if they allow ONLY changes, we need to indicate the dates for the 
change and must be in the next 12 months, typically.

 

So, it is EXTREMELY URGENT to either, cancel the meeting, or announce 
immediately the new dates (and the city if is not the same).

 

Otherwise we will be in a situation of not only wasting our time but also our 
money.

 

I will suggest, as other RIRs and the IETF has done, to definitively cancel the 
meeting, due to the uncertainty of the situation and doing it online.

 

Changing the dates not only means possible conflicts with other events, but 
also that people that must participate in certain sessions (example Policy 
meeting), not being able to be there even remotely.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 18/3/20 16:58, "afnog en nombre de nancy dotse"  escribió:

 

Dear All,

Good afternoon.

On 16 March 2020, AfNOG, AFRINIC and the Local Host (ISPA-DRC) had another 
meeting to re-assess the Corona Virus pandemic as well as logistic issues.

Unfortunately we concluded that a change of plans was mandatory to safeguard 
the health of our members, community and staff. 

Thus, we agreed that it is best to postpone the AIS 2020  Workshop & Conference 
to a later date. We will continue to monitor the situation and adopt 
precautionary measures to ensure everyone’s well-being.

Further, we will communicate  decisions taken in consultation with all 
stakeholders, and will advise on new AIS 2020 dates and

the way forward in due course.

Please stay safe.

Kind regards

Nancy

AfNOG

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