Re: [Community-Discuss] AFRINIC Borad Elections
Great to AfriNIC staff to have on the table this will to be up-dated, relating to such world-wide important issues! Looking forward to seeing sound proposals & actions, among them "education kits" for the readiness of our community to complain with these nowadays "acceptable rules" of Internet beyond continents, as Internet is ONE! Merci beaucoup Alan Dr Ousmane TESSA Alan Barrett a écrit : On 10 Jul 2019, at 12:22, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: Right now, I just checked the privacy statement in the web site (https://afrinic.net/privacy). Sadly, I don’t think this is consistent with the latest GDPR (even for the Mauritius regulation). We recognise the need to update the privacy statement, and we have been working on that. Alan Barrett ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss -- ** Dr Ousmane MOUSSA TESSA Département de mathématiques et d'informatique Université A. Moumouni, Niamey, NIGER Adresse postale: B.P. 10.111 Niamey, NIGER Téléphone (domicile): +227 20 31 52 28 (mobile) : +227 93 77 74 93 / 91 49 16 39 / 96 27 99 92 E-mail: ousmane(at)musatesa.net ou musatesa(at)yahoo.com Skype : musatesa ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against W
Dear all, Again and again, let's be more constructive bearing in mind our "common denominator" to use our time reading and discussing LONG messages! I hope that such clear proposas form Jordi & Mirriam, will consolidate transparency and trust in our community, and will gain support of all of us, beyond their specific acceptions of AfriNIC. For the sake of strengthen our community, this very easy to implement suggestion can put an end to all these disputes around an entity, which can and have to respect such rules, when agreed by all of us. Let's go out quickly from vain quarrels, even fueled by invisible hands usually in Africa. Just stand up to stop anyone, within ou outside our community, who wants to proceed just by " divide, then conquer". Thank for all our community members ( inside and outsider Africa) for their genuine contribution to permit AfriNIC to fullfill its mandate and gain in momentum towards its objectives. The last not the least, those who to consider AfriNIC as a "game meat" will face fierce hitback from our community. Dr Ousmane TESSA Mirriam via Community-Discuss a écrit : Hi Jordi I have already suggested a solution of AfriNIC taking a leadership role and providing a solution to the challenge presented by Larus Foundation a third party fellowship provider whose activities should be discouraged as they seem to undermine the Policy Development Process. Since Larus Foundation fellowship program is not popular within the community due to the issues raised by members of the community, my suggestion and I will repeat again, is that AFRINIC takes a central role with matters related to fellowship. Larus Foundation is better of working with AfriNIC, if indeed they mean well for this community. Only AfriNIC should be responsible for fellowship programs that are related to the AfriNIC PDP to avoid bias, influence and the undermining of the PDP. Only AfriNIC can be transparent and trusted to offer support and education to fellows about the PDP as well as being the main contact for any form of fellowship. This is how we can fix this issue. Mirriam. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android[1] On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:16 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss Liens: -- [1] https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers_wl=ym_sub1=Internal_sub2=Global_YGrowth_sub3=EmailSignature ** Dr Ousmane MOUSSA TESSA Département de mathématiques et d'informatique Université A. Moumouni, Niamey, NIGER Adresse postale: B.P. 10.111 Niamey, NIGER Téléphone (domicile): +227 20 31 52 28 (mobile) : +227 93 77 74 93 / 91 49 16 39 / 96 27 99 92 E-mail: ousmane(at)musatesa.net ou musatesa(at)yahoo.com Skype : musatesa ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Lobbying Allegations against W
Great Mirriam I guess that this proposal is welcome by our community members for the sake to proceed without being melting in useless quarrels stiring here and there! We're waiting for a quick whistle to hal this waste of time and let the community to focus on a better and beneficial usages of our number ressources to promote Internet services i n Africa! Dr Ousmane TESSA Mirriam via Community-Discuss a écrit : Hi Jordi I have already suggested a solution of AfriNIC taking a leadership role and providing a solution to the challenge presented by Larus Foundation a third party fellowship provider whose activities should be discouraged as they seem to undermine the Policy Development Process. Since Larus Foundation fellowship program is not popular within the community due to the issues raised by members of the community, my suggestion and I will repeat again, is that AFRINIC takes a central role with matters related to fellowship. Larus Foundation is better of working with AfriNIC, if indeed they mean well for this community. Only AfriNIC should be responsible for fellowship programs that are related to the AfriNIC PDP to avoid bias, influence and the undermining of the PDP. Only AfriNIC can be transparent and trusted to offer support and education to fellows about the PDP as well as being the main contact for any form of fellowship. This is how we can fix this issue. Mirriam. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android[1] On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 12:16 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss wrote: ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss Liens: -- [1] https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers_wl=ym_sub1=Internal_sub2=Global_YGrowth_sub3=EmailSignature ** Dr Ousmane MOUSSA TESSA Département de mathématiques et d'informatique Université A. Moumouni, Niamey, NIGER Adresse postale: B.P. 10.111 Niamey, NIGER Téléphone (domicile): +227 20 31 52 28 (mobile) : +227 93 77 74 93 / 91 49 16 39 / 96 27 99 92 E-mail: ousmane(at)musatesa.net ou musatesa(at)yahoo.com Skype : musatesa ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] Larus foundation fellowship
A+ Jordi! As an academic, most useful educational materials to leraners community have to be FAIR (findable accessible interoperable and reusable)! So selective use of filtered and uncorrect "quoted" opinions have a flavour of ... project! Those who say that they come as samaritain to "help" must bear in mind that AfriNIC community is more agile and smart than they think! RESPECT! RESPECT! "Shouting is not a act of vitality"! Dr Ousmane TESSA JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss a écrit : Actually, I think this is something to be done by Afrinic, with the help of PDP chairs and policy proposal authors. The goal is not to convince them about *ANY* policy proposal, just to have more open time for openly discussing them, and mainly oriented to newcomers, but not only. I’ve actually suggested (several times) for the last couple of years, some of those activities, that I’ve suggested as well in other RIRs and have been implemented already, with a great success. Up to now, it has never been done, despite how much I’ve insisted (staff and co-chairs can confirm that I’ve once and again provided lots of those ideas). Here is a copy & paste of an email about that with the staff: … concrete actions some of the in every meeting: 1) Setting up open sessions for discussion with policy proposal authors. The idea is that all the authors (willing to contribute) have a short explanation of each policy proposal (no slides, a common slide with titles of all policy proposals just for reference), and they can discuss openly with the participants. There is not any decision process here. In order to plan agenda, I suggest doing this after the session for newcomers and/or sponsored fellows, same meeting room, so the people don't need to move, make it as easier as possible for them. In LACNIC we did that on Sunday evening because most of the folks travel on the morning. Distances and flights aren't the same in this region, so we should consider that. 2) Setting up specific tables for lunch for the same. Similar to above, so people with interest or questions about policy proposal, can sit down with authors to have a more open discussion. 3) Group Dynamics. Take newcomers and other people interested in the PDP. One morning before the policy-day. Create 3-4 small groups depending on how many folks participate (may be more if there are more people, but you need one staff or co-chair for each group), and each group should work in "understanding" a different policy proposal, looking for pros-cons, and trying to "develop" consensus on it and then presenting shortly their results to all the groups. The idea is that they get used to the process and can bring their views to the policy day. As the previous ones, this is not a formal part of the PDP. But in LACNIC has been useful because new people get engaged in the list and in the mics of the meeting. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 2/7/19 20:55, "Noah" escribió: On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 17:11 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss, wrote: When anyone present a summary of a policy proposal (which has been done already by the authors) you’re directly or indirectly doing your own analysis and arguing for or against based on your own perspective. This is influencing participants, it can be never 100% unbiassed. +1 Jordi I believe Wafa has provided far much better educational materials (unbiassed) on the policy development process to all the newbie's who can parse through and understand through those various links the origins of AfriNIC and how the entire pdp process works. If anything, new folks would find the rpd list and its archives even more educational than a well documented and somewhat misleading document which is suspect. I have been party to various working groups that lobby for or against some policies which is completely fine but the Larus Foundation approach is on some next level and seriously undermines the entire pdp process. Noah ** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the
Re: [Community-Discuss] Larus foundation fellowship
Huumm! Noah. Better ask difference between "sponsorship to educate newcomers" or lobbying to push specific agenda in Africa. Elsewhere, the fear of Justice will deter most of people to even think about this trick. Ousmane TESSA Noah a écrit : On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 16:04 Anne-vivien Paris, wrote: If you have any questions regarding the Foundation and its events, please do not hesitate to contact us. A quick one Anne-vivien Paris if you dont mind. I am curious to know if you have supported similar activities and events in other RIR other than AfriNIC? Noah -- ** Dr Ousmane MOUSSA TESSA Département de mathématiques et d'informatique Université A. Moumouni, Niamey, NIGER Adresse postale: B.P. 10.111 Niamey, NIGER Téléphone (domicile): +227 20 31 52 28 (mobile) : +227 93 77 74 93 / 91 49 16 39 / 96 27 99 92 E-mail: ousmane(at)musatesa.net ou musatesa(at)yahoo.com Skype : musatesa ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
