Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd
In message DANIEL NANGHAKA wrote: >AFRINIC has provided updates to the community where necessity of the update >is important. > >If CI is to do there press releases, there is no problem as it is also >noted that they should present facts and not mislead the community. > >CI's press release looks vague and does not give detailed information. If >you do a press release then present the exact issues otherwise just shut up >and let the courts do there job. +1 Regards, rfg ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [apnic-talk]Re: [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd
Good day all, chairs, I would like to call out a violation of the Code of Conduct by Ronald. His statements are clearly against section B, numbers 2, 3 and 4 within the AFRINIC code of conduct. His actions and statements are defamatory and quite offensive. Regards On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 6:15 AM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message blyrvw01c2mkm...@mail.gmail.com> > Ibeanusi Elvis wrote: > > >This "sockpuppet" ideology and terminology that has become an excessively > >overused irrelevant term in this mailing list. What is wrong with sharing > a > >link of interest or a link that a member consider relevant to him/herself. > >Freedom of expression is always promoted in this community as long as it > >does not go out of line. Members of this community including the AFRINIC > >organization itself always share updates and links; never have it been > >considered an act of being a "Sockpuppet". Lets stop throwing words around > >in this community mailing list and create unwanted confusion. > > Sockpuppetry is not an "ideology". It is a well-established fact of life > on the modern Internet, just as "astroturfing" is in real life. If you > don't know that then it is because either you are ignorant or else it is > because you are pretending to be ignorant. > > The poster in question is using and was using a fradulent name together > with > an essentially anonymous gmail account. The name given in the From: header > is bogus and is a reference to a non-existant fictitious person, as anyone > who simply takes a moment to google the name can readily see. > > This is fundamentally different from Real People posting to these lists. > Real People have histories, known connections, and readily identifiable > employers. Sock puppets have none of these things. > > If you don't like people talking about sock puppets on these mailing lists > then perhaps you should, in the first instance, try to get the sock > puppets to stop posting garbage and unenlightening recycled company PR > blurbs to these mailing lists. > > Most of us have real work to do, and if we really want to be bombarded by > commercial advertisments being written and spread around by specific > individual companies, at their request or prompting, and for their benefit, > then there are other places where we can seek out that kind of stuff. > > > Regards, > rfg > ___ > apnic-talk mailing list -- apnic-t...@lists.apnic.net > To unsubscribe send an email to apnic-talk-le...@lists.apnic.net > ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd
In message Ibeanusi Elvis wrote: >The press release is in no way obstructing the functionality and the >ability of the court to carry out its duties nor is it misleading the >community. There is nothing vague, defamatory or "not facts" about the >press release... It alleges "multiple" violations of court orders. Please list those so that others can independently verify whether this is true or bullshit. Regards, rfg ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [apnic-talk]Re: [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd
On 31/12/2021 16:45, Cheken Chetty wrote: Good day all, chairs, I would like to call out a violation of the Code of Conduct by Ronald. His statements are clearly against section B, numbers 2, 3 and 4 within the AFRINIC code of conduct. His actions and statements are defamatory and quite offensive. Regards Hi Cheken Chetty, Please assist to state any affiliation of concern you have and assist to clarify : - who is defamed - who is offended Thanks, Frank ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
Re: [Community-Discuss] [apnic-talk]Re: [arin-ppml] Update on Litigation Between AFRINIC and Cloud Innovation ltd
Indeed Ronald’s statements were offensive and defamatory. Which violates the AFRINIC Code of Conduct in section B; 2, 3 and 4. To be exact, his statement against me referring to me as IGNORANT "Sockpuppetry is not an "ideology". It is a well-established fact of life on the modern Internet, just as "astroturfing" is in real life. If you don't know that then it is because either you are ignorant or else it is because you are pretending to be ignorant” Additionally, defamatory as he infers that the people in the community are not “REAL PEOPLE”. The community is of course open-minded to criticism, we are not always going to agree with each other but we can be and have opposite perspectives but I believe there are better ways to disagree than being offensive, defamatory, and violating the Code of Conduct. Best regards, Elvis. > On Dec 31, 2021, at 23:36, Frank Habicht wrote: > > On 31/12/2021 16:45, Cheken Chetty wrote: >> Good day all, chairs, >> I would like to call out a violation of the Code of Conduct by Ronald. His >> statements are clearly against section B, numbers 2, 3 and 4 within the >> AFRINIC code of conduct. His actions and statements are defamatory and quite >> offensive. >> Regards > > Hi Cheken Chetty, > > Please assist to state any affiliation of concern you have and assist to > clarify : > - who is defamed > - who is offended > > Thanks, > Frank > > ___ > Community-Discuss mailing list > Community-Discuss@afrinic.net > https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss ___ Community-Discuss mailing list Community-Discuss@afrinic.net https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss
