Re: [computer-go] Re: 9x9 vs 19x19 (was: computer-go Digest)
Le mardi 22 mai 2007 01:52, Dave Dyer a écrit : I figured that a credible anchor player for 19x19 might need a lot of cycles, and need to play a lot of games at first, so spreading the load would be a good idea. Maybe GNU Go 3.7.10 is _the_ good anchor player for 19x19: - everybody use it at home for tests - at level 10 it is fast, level 8 is slightly weaker but really much faster - it is one of the strongest program available - it is GPL Alain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] 9x9 vs 19x19 (was: computer-go Digest)
Heikki Levanto wrote: I think it is better to stick to 9x9 as the beginners tournament, where it is easy to test new ideas in quick games, and 19x19 as the serious tournament where we can see how good computers are at playing the game like we humans do. I agree 100%. Other board sizes are unnecessary, and if 19x19 makes the 9x9 server decrease in interest, that's the natural evolution of the game. The 19x19 will be the one people will use as a reference of the state of the art in computer go. I am not ready yet, but have worked a lot in computer go this year even if not full time. In July, I will work at least 3 months full time in my engine. The board system is done although not debugged. Debugging it is a software project by itself because it has over 90.000 lines of automatically generated assembly language source code. ( Not kidding. Of course, the board does more that just checking if a move is legal ;-) ) I am eager to join the 19x19 server a soon as I am ready! Jacques. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Amsterdam 2007 paper
Yamato wrote: Rémi, May I ask you some more questions? (1) You define Dj as Dj=Mij*ci+Bij. Is it not Aij but Bij? What does this mean? Yes, it is ! Thanks for pointing that mistake out. (2) You have relatively few shape patterns. How large is each pattern? 5x5, 7x7, or more? I use radius 3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10, according to the distance defined in Table 1. This looks very much like those used by de Groot and the Microsoft guys, with some very small differences. With a radius of 10 according to my distance, the most distant point is 5 vertices away from the center. I did not make big efforts to learn more patterns, and bigger ones, because I found that they do not improve the playing strength. It improves prediction rate a lot, but not playing strength. Crazy Stone is not significantly stronger with patterns of size 3 to 10 than it was with patterns of sizes 3 and 4 only. That may be because it is not efficient to use knowledge in the widening algorithm that is not available to the random simulations. Also, large patterns are useful only in the opening, not in the middle game where most crucial tactics take place. (3) You say the nth move is added when 40*1.4^(n-2) simulations have been run. How did you determine these numbers? I tried plenty of alternatives and kept what produced the best strength against GNU Go. Remarkably, I found that the same formula produces good strength, whatever the size of the board. The alternatives I tried were linear widening (really does not work), and changing the values of 40 and 1.4. Performance is not very sensitive to those values. I tuned them when I was using less clever patterns, so it may be that they are not very optimal. Thank you very much for your feedback. Rémi ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules The idea is to have at least 1 or 2 playing at any given time on CGOS. You don't have to run it 24/7, that's why it's good to get a few volunteers, so at least 1 or 2 is always on. If you want to run one of these anchors give me: 1. The name on CGOS you will use for the program. The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 10:41 +0200, alain Baeckeroot wrote: Le mardi 22 mai 2007 01:52, Dave Dyer a écrit : I figured that a credible anchor player for 19x19 might need a lot of cycles, and need to play a lot of games at first, so spreading the load would be a good idea. Maybe GNU Go 3.7.10 is _the_ good anchor player for 19x19: - everybody use it at home for tests - at level 10 it is fast, level 8 is slightly weaker but really much faster - it is one of the strongest program available - it is GPL Alain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
I can run one. Let me know I can set it up tonight. -Josh On 5/22/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules The idea is to have at least 1 or 2 playing at any given time on CGOS. You don't have to run it 24/7, that's why it's good to get a few volunteers, so at least 1 or 2 is always on. If you want to run one of these anchors give me: 1. The name on CGOS you will use for the program. The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 10:41 +0200, alain Baeckeroot wrote: Le mardi 22 mai 2007 01:52, Dave Dyer a écrit : I figured that a credible anchor player for 19x19 might need a lot of cycles, and need to play a lot of games at first, so spreading the load would be a good idea. Maybe GNU Go 3.7.10 is _the_ good anchor player for 19x19: - everybody use it at home for tests - at level 10 it is fast, level 8 is slightly weaker but really much faster - it is one of the strongest program available - it is GPL Alain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 17:35 +0200, Heikki Levanto wrote: How about GnuGo-3.7.10-H Ok - I'm setting up GnuGo-3.7.10-H as an anchor. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Temporary instructions for CGOS 19x19
The 19x19 is serving games right now and is up and running. Here are some temporary instructions on getting going until I fix things up a bit: 1. You must modify the tcl engine client slightly: 1.1 Server is the same (cgos.boardspace.net) 1.2 Port is 6819 (instead of 6867 for the 9x9 server.) This requires a single line change to line 3 of the the cgos3.tcl script: set port 6819 2. This is an undocumented feature, but the current cgosview can be used by invoking it like this: cgosview cgos.boardspace.net 6819 or tclkit cgosview.kit cgos.boardspace.net 6819 all depending on which version you have. Earlier versions of cgosview do not support this, but version 0.32 does (you will see the version number in upper right hand corner of a game being viewed.) 3. The web pages need some fixing up - but you can see the current standings here: http://cgos.boardspace.net/19x19/standings.html I'll try to make a nicer way to make the clients more flexible about choosing the appropriate servers and ports, perhaps with configuration file. I don't really understand the best way to do this in Windows, but in linux I would use standard practices, a command line option to point to a config file, and a default config file in ~/.cgos.cfg - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
I just sent out instructions on how to get on the server. All I need to know is the exact name you want to use on CGOS and I can set it up as an Anchor. Be sure to run it exactly as specified using GnuGo 3.7.10 - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 11:35 -0400, Joshua Shriver wrote: I can run one. Let me know I can set it up tonight. -Josh On 5/22/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules The idea is to have at least 1 or 2 playing at any given time on CGOS. You don't have to run it 24/7, that's why it's good to get a few volunteers, so at least 1 or 2 is always on. If you want to run one of these anchors give me: 1. The name on CGOS you will use for the program. The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 10:41 +0200, alain Baeckeroot wrote: Le mardi 22 mai 2007 01:52, Dave Dyer a écrit : I figured that a credible anchor player for 19x19 might need a lot of cycles, and need to play a lot of games at first, so spreading the load would be a good idea. Maybe GNU Go 3.7.10 is _the_ good anchor player for 19x19: - everybody use it at home for tests - at level 10 it is fast, level 8 is slightly weaker but really much faster - it is one of the strongest program available - it is GPL Alain ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] Temporary instructions for CGOS 19x19
This list is weird. I have 2 emails on this list but when I use [EMAIL PROTECTED] it takes a long time for my post to get back to the list - at least from my site. But when I use the email of my local provider, it happens quickly! So I'm sending this again since it's been 1/2 hour and the previous copy has not arrived: The 19x19 is serving games right now and is up and running. Here are some temporary instructions on getting going until I fix things up a bit: 1. You must modify the tcl engine client slightly: 1.1 Server is the same (cgos.boardspace.net) 1.2 Port is 6819 (instead of 6867 for the 9x9 server.) This requires a single line change to line 3 of the the cgos3.tcl script: set port 6819 2. This is an undocumented feature, but the current cgosview can be used by invoking it like this: cgosview cgos.boardspace.net 6819 or tclkit cgosview.kit cgos.boardspace.net 6819 all depending on which version you have. Earlier versions of cgosview do not support this, but version 0.32 does (you will see the version number in upper right hand corner of a game being viewed.) 3. The web pages need some fixing up - but you can see the current standings here: http://cgos.boardspace.net/19x19/standings.html I'll try to make a nicer way to make the clients more flexible about choosing the appropriate servers and ports, perhaps with configuration file. I don't really understand the best way to do this in Windows, but in linux I would use standard practices, a command line option to point to a config file, and a default config file in ~/.cgos.cfg - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
On 5/22/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules In GTP mode, if the time_settings command is received by the GNU Go engine, it will start adapting its own level automatically. If you want similar responses and playing levels from programs running on different hardwares (mostly CPU speed), you need to limit the engine's abillity by specifying both --min-level and --max-level and make sure the chosen level will have good chances to meet the deadline. On a slow box, there's a potential that level 10 may not be able to finish a 400 moves game in 15 minutes (and 400 moves long games may very well happen with the CGOS rules) And I'm not sure if it makes a difference (I don't recall if it's the default setting in the engine or not), but I added --positional-superko to the command line, which means, my program did experience losses on CGOS due to illegal moves without it. -- nando ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
Don Dailey wrote: I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. [...] The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. Just a thought: couldn't different speeds of the computers running the Anchors lead to differnt strengths? eph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 09:29 -0700, terry mcintyre wrote: I can set up tomorrow. How about TMGnuGo3_7_10 or something like that? How about TMGnuGo-3.7.10 which is a more conventional notation? I have set up TMGnuGo-3.7.10 as an anchor. I think that this version is sufficiently fast that it will move in time on most modern systems. - Don MMM, with 30 minute clock, does it make a difference how fast the various CPUs are, or is GnuGo3.7.10 sufficiently quick that it is unlikely to run out of time? Terry McIntyre UNIX for hire software development / systems administration / security [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Heikki Levanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:35:50 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready. On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:22:19AM -0400, Don Dailey wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. Great! I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. Since I asked for 19x19, I think it is fair if I colunteer. I put one running on my server box, a 2GHz Celeron, which doesn't have so much else to do... The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules 1. The name on CGOS you will use for the program. How about GnuGo-3.7.10-H I can try to set it up tonight. But I need to know where to connect it, and if I need to change anything (else) in the cgos script to get it to work. - Heikki -- Heikki Levanto In Murphy We Turst heikki (at) lsd (dot) dk ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ __ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] 9x9 and 19x19
Hi everyone! It is really exciting and captivating to follow the threads exchanged here and I have the impression that computer go is again coming in a very hot phase these days! After having done a lot 13x13 in 2002-2005 ( meanwhile with WinHonte, Explorer, ... 25 'classic' programs listed at http://geocities.com/comp_go/13x13.html ) I am now playing a continuation of my private tournaments for as much different programs as possible in 9x9 Go and 19x19 Go! I am totally found of Don Daileys CGoServer which is indeed a fantastic, great work and of immense use for all computer Go programmers. And also the KGS tournaments run by Nick Wedd has become one of the most important goals for every actual Go program. So my personal tournaments, run on my private PC, are just meant to give an additional possibility to compare some actual with some older Go software, that perhaps would/could not participate in those two events above. To begin with, I started playing 9x9 Go with GnuGo v3.6 (I took this version as being the last 'released' one, but if there won´t be a newer version or even a v3.8 soon, I´ll probably change to v3.7.10 next) on different levels to see how much playing strength would increase with more thinking time. From a total of over 2.500 games played in levels 10, 12, 14, 15 or 16 It showed that GnuGo 3.6 was best for 9x9 Go on level 15. Meanwhile I am playing 9x9 Go nearly round-robin with some actually available Go software (Aya v5.99, SmartGo v2.6, WinHonte v2.01, Dariush v3.157) as well as some older versions (ManyFaces v11.0, Go Intellect v10.0, GoeMate of 2001, Go++ v5.0) and even started some games with CrazyStone0005 (the version that won gold in Turin, 2006) and some first experimental versions of Suzie. Detailed results as well as all the games will be posted soon and hopefully published as well. Next I want to play 19x19 as well (and also include FunGo from 2000, which only runs on 19x19). Actually I let play 150 games per pairing in 9x9 Go with two moves preset and 100 games per pairing in 19x19 Go with five moves preset. This might change with more experience and first of all I plan to include series of handicap games! There is lots of work to be done for it. Comments questions ( soon new versions of Go software..!) are highly appreciated and welcome! Thanks, Stefan Stefan Mertin, Osnabrueck / Germany [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-05-21 19:58 Heikki Levanto wrote: [computer-go] 9x9 vs 19x19 (was: computer-go Digest) I think there has been a marked change of interest since the introduction of UCT, and - around the same time - the cgos 9x9 tournament page. I understand that most people do their experiments on 9x9, the results are available so much faster. Still, I think it might be time to loosen the focus on 9x9, and have some more things happening on other sizes. Would there be interest in a tournament system for 19x19 programs? Something like 30 mins / player sounds like a reasonable extrapolation. 2007-05-22 17:22 Don Daileywrote: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready. Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules ... ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
On Tue, 22 May 2007, Don Dailey wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules Did you ever say which level for gnugo? Christoph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
OK, everyone running a GnuGo anchor needs to know this. Let's make the default level be level 8 - since we want to be able to very comfortably run this on slow hardware. So let's make this the command for gnugo: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --min-level 8 --max-level 8 --chinese-rules --positional-superko - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 19:21 +0200, nando wrote: On 5/22/07, Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules In GTP mode, if the time_settings command is received by the GNU Go engine, it will start adapting its own level automatically. If you want similar responses and playing levels from programs running on different hardwares (mostly CPU speed), you need to limit the engine's abillity by specifying both --min-level and --max-level and make sure the chosen level will have good chances to meet the deadline. On a slow box, there's a potential that level 10 may not be able to finish a 400 moves game in 15 minutes (and 400 moves long games may very well happen with the CGOS rules) And I'm not sure if it makes a difference (I don't recall if it's the default setting in the engine or not), but I added --positional-superko to the command line, which means, my program did experience losses on CGOS due to illegal moves without it. -- nando ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 19:47 +0200, Ephrim Khong wrote: Don Dailey wrote: I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. [...] The Anchors will be fixed at 1800 ELO. Just a thought: couldn't different speeds of the computers running the Anchors lead to differnt strengths? Evidently so. I wasn't aware of that feature of Gnugo. Note my last message - calling for anchors to be level 8 - Don eph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Orego 5.04 released
On May 20, 2007, at 8:08 AM, Stuart A. Yeates wrote: A couple of quick observations: In java it's usually faster on modern hardware to pipe serialised objects through a gzip filter before you serialise them to disk. Compression effort is more than offset by reduced disk bandwidth, which is often bottleneck. Interesting! I'll keep that in mind. The Orego code should be of use to anyone familiar with Java who is just getting into computer Go. should read The Orego code should be of use to anyone familiar with Java who is just getting into UCT and computer Go. Fair enough. I was surprised not to find a copy of the javadocs on your website. They're in the .jar file. At a later date I'll consider putting them directly on the website, but the way web space is allocated around here makes this awkward. Other than that, it looks great. Thanks! Peter Drake http://www.lclark.edu/~drake/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
ok. Will set up the min and max parameters as per email from DRD. Terry McIntyre UNIX for hire software development / systems administration / security [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Don Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 10:52:13 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready. On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 09:29 -0700, terry mcintyre wrote: I can set up tomorrow. How about TMGnuGo3_7_10 or something like that? How about TMGnuGo-3.7.10 which is a more conventional notation? I have set up TMGnuGo-3.7.10 as an anchor. I think that this version is sufficiently fast that it will move in time on most modern systems. - Don MMM, with 30 minute clock, does it make a difference how fast the various CPUs are, or is GnuGo3.7.10 sufficiently quick that it is unlikely to run out of time? Terry McIntyre UNIX for hire software development / systems administration / security [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message From: Heikki Levanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: computer-go computer-go@computer-go.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:35:50 AM Subject: Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready. On Tue, May 22, 2007 at 11:22:19AM -0400, Don Dailey wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. Great! I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. Since I asked for 19x19, I think it is fair if I colunteer. I put one running on my server box, a 2GHz Celeron, which doesn't have so much else to do... The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules 1. The name on CGOS you will use for the program. How about GnuGo-3.7.10-H I can try to set it up tonight. But I need to know where to connect it, and if I need to change anything (else) in the cgos script to get it to work. - Heikki -- Heikki Levanto In Murphy We Turst heikki (at) lsd (dot) dk ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ __ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Re: Amsterdam 2007 paper (final version)
Hi, I have just updated my web page with the final version of my paper: http://remi.coulom.free.fr/Amsterdam2007/ I have tried to improve it based on all your comments and questions, and those of the workshop reviewer. I thank you all very much for your interesting remarks. I have not included results against GNU Go with progressive widening and no pattern in the random simulations: pattern are so deeply hard-wired into to my current random player that it would be too much work to produce such a version. Results with no pattern in the random simulations were obtained with the old version of Crazy Stone, before I added pattern stuff. So, I got 57% against GNU Go at 128 minutes/game, 1 CPU: first time I win against GNU on 19x19! I still have a lot of progress to make in order to catch up with Mogo, though. Thanks again, Rémi ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
I think that this version is sufficiently fast that it will move in time on most modern systems. You could also throw out the result when an anchor loses on time. ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] CGOS 19x19 almost ready.
Yes, see my later emails - It needs to be: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --min-level 8 --max-level 8 --chinese-rules --positional-superko - Don On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 11:39 -0700, Christoph Birk wrote: On Tue, 22 May 2007, Don Dailey wrote: Ok the 19x19 server is almost ready. I would like to get 3 or 4 volunteers to run a copy of the Anchor. The Anchor will be GnuGo 3.7.10 with these parameters: gnugo --mode gtp --score aftermath --capture-all-dead --chinese-rules Did you ever say which level for gnugo? Christoph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Amsterdam paper
On 5/19/07, Thomas Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is another Amsterdam paper on Go, although about life death and not full game playing. I may be missing the obvious, but in Section 4.2, Diagram 13, isn't Black 10 a basic ko violation? regards, -John ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
Re: [computer-go] Amsterdam paper
On 5/19/07, Thomas Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is another Amsterdam paper on Go, although about life death and not full game playing. I may be missing the obvious, but in Section 4.2, Diagram 13, isn't Black 10 a basic ko violation? Yes, that eats up one of the necessary external ko-threats which White needs in order to win. The GoLaTeX style file I have does not mention the Ko-threats and answers played elsewhere underneath the diagrams. Thomas regards, -John ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/ ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
[computer-go] CGOS
CGOS is down. There appears to be a physical problem with the cgos boardspace server and it's my understanding it is being looked at. It may be several hours before it is back - since it is late here and I don't know how long it will be before it's fixed. - Don ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/
