[computer-go] GoGui and python

2007-08-24 Thread Thomas Nelson
Has anyone here tried using GoGui with python?  I thought the print 
statement would send commands well enough, but it doesn't seem to.


Here's some very simple code:


command = raw_input()
print = myName\n


Obviously, this is a toy example, but GoGui responds with the program 
never responded to the name command.  If I write out to a file, I can see 
my response just fine.


Has anyone here used GoGui before?  Is there a better gtp gui to use?  The 
only example I've found anywhere is a Delphi example using some Windows 
primatives.  I'd like to avoid that if I can.


Thanks for you time.

THN
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Re: [computer-go] GoGui and python

2007-08-24 Thread Darren Cook
 command = raw_input()
 print = myName\n
 
 Obviously, this is a toy example, but GoGui responds with the program
 never responded to the name command.  If I write out to a file, I can
 see my response just fine.

Have you tried flushing stdout after print? (or setting up stdout to not
buffer?). A quick google confirmed python is buffering stdout, but I
couldn't find the flush command.

Darren


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Re: [computer-go] GoGui and python

2007-08-24 Thread Adrian Petrescu
Yeah, flushing stdout should be all you need to do to make this work. To do
this,

import sys
sys.stdout.flush()


Good luck :)

On 8/24/07, Darren Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  command = raw_input()
  print = myName\n
 
  Obviously, this is a toy example, but GoGui responds with the program
  never responded to the name command.  If I write out to a file, I can
  see my response just fine.

 Have you tried flushing stdout after print? (or setting up stdout to not
 buffer?). A quick google confirmed python is buffering stdout, but I
 couldn't find the flush command.

 Darren


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Re: [computer-go] GoGui and python

2007-08-24 Thread Hellwig Geisse
Thomas,

On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 17:26 -0500, Thomas Nelson wrote:

 command = raw_input()
 print = myName\n

the following is taken directly from the protocol specification:

-

2.6 Response Structure

If successful, the engine returns a response of the form 

=[id] result

Here '=' indicates success, id is the identity number given in the
command, and result is a piece of text ending with two consecutive
newlines.

-

Please note the two consecutive newlines.

As others have already pointed out, you have to flush the
output if it is buffered.

Hellwig

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Re: [computer-go] GoGui and python

2007-08-24 Thread George Dahl
He has two consecutive newlines since print adds one unless the print
statement has a comma at the end.
- George

On 8/24/07, Hellwig Geisse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thomas,

 On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 17:26 -0500, Thomas Nelson wrote:

  command = raw_input()
  print = myName\n

 the following is taken directly from the protocol specification:

 -

 2.6 Response Structure

 If successful, the engine returns a response of the form

 =[id] result

 Here '=' indicates success, id is the identity number given in the
 command, and result is a piece of text ending with two consecutive
 newlines.

 -

 Please note the two consecutive newlines.

 As others have already pointed out, you have to flush the
 output if it is buffered.

 Hellwig

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Re: [computer-go] GoGui and python

2007-08-24 Thread Hellwig Geisse
On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 19:11 -0400, George Dahl wrote:
 He has two consecutive newlines since print adds one unless the print
 statement has a comma at the end.
 - George

Ah, thanks, didn't know that. I suspected this to be the error
because the two newlines in responses are in my experience the
most overlooked detail in the GTP spec.

Hellwig

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[computer-go] Distributed Alpha-Beta Papers?

2007-08-24 Thread Phil G
Can someone recommend a good paper on distributed alpha-beta searching? Not 
necessarily for Go; I'm just interested in reading up on the subject.
 
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Re: [computer-go] Distributed Alpha-Beta Papers?

2007-08-24 Thread Adrian Petrescu
If you have an ACM subscription, the following should give you some
interesting info:

R. Finkel, U. Manber. 1987. DIB - A distributed implementation of
backtracking. ACM
Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems, 9(2):235–256.


On 8/25/07, Phil G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can someone recommend a good paper on distributed alpha-beta searching?
 Not necessarily for Go; I'm just interested in reading up on the subject.

 Thanks,

 - Phil


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Re: [computer-go] Distributed Alpha-Beta Papers?

2007-08-24 Thread Adrian Petrescu
Er, sorry for the double-post, just thought I should mention that you can
find the abstract for the paper at this link:
http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=24067coll=portaldl=ACM

Or just read it here:

DIB is a general-purpose package that allows a wide range of applications
such as recursive backtrack, branch and bound, and alpha-beta search to be
implemented on a multicomputer. It is very easy to use. The application
program needs to specify only the root of the recursion tree, the
computation to be performed at each node, and how to generate children at
each node. In addition, the application program may optionally specify how
to synthesize values of tree nodes from their children's values and how to
disseminate information (such as bounds) either globally or locally in the
tree. DIB uses a distributed algorithm, transparent to the application
programmer, that divides the problem into subproblems and dynamically
allocates them to any number of (potentially nonhomogeneous) machines. This
algorithm requires only minimal support from the distributed operating
system. DIB can recover from failures of machines even if they are not
detected. DIB currently runs on the Crystal multicomputer at the University
of Wisconsin-Madison. Many applications have been implemented quite easily,
including exhaustive traversal (N queens, knight's tour, negamax tree
evaluation), branch and bound (traveling salesman) and alpha-beta search
(the game of NIM). Speedup is excellent for exhaustive traversal and quite
good for branch and bound.

On 8/25/07, Adrian Petrescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you have an ACM subscription, the following should give you some
 interesting info:

 R. Finkel, U. Manber. 1987. DIB - A distributed implementation of
 backtracking. ACM
 Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems, 9(2):235–256.


 On 8/25/07, Phil G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Can someone recommend a good paper on distributed alpha-beta searching?
  Not necessarily for Go; I'm just interested in reading up on the subject.
 
  Thanks,
 
  - Phil
 
 
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