Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread William Shubert
TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com

This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is
needed.

On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:59 +0100, Olivier Teytaud wrote:

 Does someone know which port of which server
 can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot
 (we have tedious troubles with a firewall...) ?
 
 Thanks for any information,
 Olivier
 
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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
can anyone put up a gnugo bot?

-Josh

On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com

  This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is
 needed.


  On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:59 +0100, Olivier Teytaud wrote:
  Does someone know which port of which server
 can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot
 (we have tedious troubles with a firewall...) ?

 Thanks for any information,
 Olivier



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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
The way I understand it, you must have permission from the program
authors for either division.  And only one version of a given program
can compete in the formal division.


On Nov 9, 2007 9:35 AM, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
 can anyone put up a gnugo bot?

 -Josh


 On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com
 
   This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is
  needed.
 
 
   On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:59 +0100, Olivier Teytaud wrote:
   Does someone know which port of which server
  can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot
  (we have tedious troubles with a firewall...) ?
 
  Thanks for any information,
  Olivier
 
 
 

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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Jason House
To put a bot on KGS for general play, you simply need to set up a login ID
and have kgsGtp use it.

On Nov 9, 2007 9:35 AM, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
 can anyone put up a gnugo bot?

 -Josh

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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Joshua Shriver
Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write.
I was thinking more general. Just for play.
Thanks and good luck in the tourney :)
-Josh

On Nov 9, 2007 9:54 AM, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was referring to the KGS bot tournaments.  I see now that you did
 not specifically ask about that.



 On Nov 9, 2007 9:40 AM, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  The way I understand it, you must have permission from the program
  authors for either division.  And only one version of a given program
  can compete in the formal division.
 
 
 
  On Nov 9, 2007 9:35 AM, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
   can anyone put up a gnugo bot?
  
   -Josh
  
  
   On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com
   
 This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is
needed.
   
   
 On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:59 +0100, Olivier Teytaud wrote:
 Does someone know which port of which server
can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot
(we have tedious troubles with a firewall...) ?
   
Thanks for any information,
Olivier
   
   
   
  
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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
I was referring to the KGS bot tournaments.  I see now that you did
not specifically ask about that.


On Nov 9, 2007 9:40 AM, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The way I understand it, you must have permission from the program
 authors for either division.  And only one version of a given program
 can compete in the formal division.



 On Nov 9, 2007 9:35 AM, Joshua Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What are the rules for putting bots on kgs? Do you have the author or
  can anyone put up a gnugo bot?
 
  -Josh
 
 
  On Nov 9, 2007 4:12 AM, William Shubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
TCP Port 2379 on goserver.gokgs.com
  
This is an outbound connection from your system. No other connection is
   needed.
  
  
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 09:59 +0100, Olivier Teytaud wrote:
Does someone know which port of which server
   can be accepted by KGS for launching a bot
   (we have tedious troubles with a firewall...) ?
  
   Thanks for any information,
   Olivier
  
  
  
 
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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Nick Wedd
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Joshua 
Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write.
I was thinking more general. Just for play.


Anyone can run a bot on KGS, the only obstacles are the small amount of 
technical competence required to get it and kgsGtp running and 
connected, and the need for an internet-connected platform to run it on. 
The bot can be one that they have written, downloaded, or stolen, KGS 
won't know nor care.


Running a _rated_ bot on KGS is another matter.  This requires active 
intervention by an admin, which is unlikely to be granted.  While your 
bot is unrated, it won't be able to play any rated games, and won't 
acquire a rating.


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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Chris Fant
Do you know of any reasons why it would not be granted to the program author?


On Nov 9, 2007 12:53 PM, Nick Wedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 Unlikely to be granted?  I assume you mean only if you are not the
 program author?

 It is more likely to be granted if you can convince them that you are
 the author;  but by no means certain.  I don't know what the guidelines
 are.  As an admin myself, I ought to know.  I shall try to find out.

 Nick


 On Nov 9, 2007 12:17 PM, Nick Wedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED], Joshua
  Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
  Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write.
  I was thinking more general. Just for play.
 
  Anyone can run a bot on KGS, the only obstacles are the small amount of
  technical competence required to get it and kgsGtp running and
  connected, and the need for an internet-connected platform to run it on.
  The bot can be one that they have written, downloaded, or stolen, KGS
  won't know nor care.
 
  Running a _rated_ bot on KGS is another matter.  This requires active
  intervention by an admin, which is unlikely to be granted.  While your
  bot is unrated, it won't be able to play any rated games, and won't
  acquire a rating.
 
  Nick
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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Nick Wedd
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes

Unlikely to be granted?  I assume you mean only if you are not the
program author?


It is more likely to be granted if you can convince them that you are 
the author;  but by no means certain.  I don't know what the guidelines 
are.  As an admin myself, I ought to know.  I shall try to find out.


Nick


On Nov 9, 2007 12:17 PM, Nick Wedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In message
[EMAIL PROTECTED], Joshua
Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Aye, it would be bad to enter a tournament with a bot I didn't write.
I was thinking more general. Just for play.

Anyone can run a bot on KGS, the only obstacles are the small amount of
technical competence required to get it and kgsGtp running and
connected, and the need for an internet-connected platform to run it on.
The bot can be one that they have written, downloaded, or stolen, KGS
won't know nor care.

Running a _rated_ bot on KGS is another matter.  This requires active
intervention by an admin, which is unlikely to be granted.  While your
bot is unrated, it won't be able to play any rated games, and won't
acquire a rating.

Nick
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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Christoph Birk

On Fri, 9 Nov 2007, Nick Wedd wrote:
Running a _rated_ bot on KGS is another matter.  This requires active 
intervention by an admin, which is unlikely to be granted.  While your bot is 
unrated, it won't be able to play any rated games, and won't acquire a 
rating.


What is the reasoing behind not rating bots?

Christoph

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Re: [computer-go] KGS connection

2007-11-09 Thread Jason House
On Nov 9, 2007 1:06 PM, Chris Fant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Do you know of any reasons why it would not be granted to the program
 author?


It may be possible to have a request slip through the cracks.  I've
submitted e-mail requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and gotten no response.

Back in the cgoban2 days, I was granted a rated status for my bot with the
explicit warning that it could be lost if the bot screwed up the scoring at
the end of the game.  I don't know if they review the bot's past performance
on KGS as part of their consideration.
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