Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Urban Hafner cont...@urbanhafner.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:13 AM, valky...@phmp.se wrote: I just connected Valkyria on 13x13! And last night I connected Brown to just see how it works. :) It seems however that something is wrong again this morning. Actually, never mind it seems to work just fine. Urban -- Blog: http://bettong.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ujh Homepage: http://www.urbanhafner.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
I forgot to turn of automatic Power off in Windows so after an hour my computer hibernated. I had started Valkyria again this morning (now using 6 threads) and then CGOS seemed to recover. Maybe CGOS froze because of this? Magnus ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] [ANN] Imago - Go board optical recognition
Hi! On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 01:55:35AM +, Andrea Carta wrote: Tomas Musil (a student of mine), has created a state-of-the-art open source Go board optical recognition software. We have focused on completely automatic runs, so it automatically detects the board corners and then the stones on the board, and the precision seems pretty good at least in reasonable lighting conditions. Hello mr. Baudis! Musil's work is remarkable indeed. I and my fellow colleague, prof. Mario Corsolini, studied the thesis and found it of the greatest interest, both on the theoretical side and the practical one. I'm very happy to hear that! BTW, Musil seems to believe that we have not found any other work that we can meaningfully compare our results with; but since november 2012 we have developed and distributed PhotoKifu, a program aimed to reconstruct whole Go games by means of a series of photograph. Sorry about this - we must have missed PhotoKifu when surveying the available software. My personal dream would be if we added video capability and further improved speed + reliability in time for EGC2015 (in Czech Republic) and were able to deploy it there to transfer large number of top boards. But this will depend on how much time Tomas will have after the summer (and we didn't actually check with EGC2015 organizers yet), so it's still more of just a dream. Of course, we too are interested in EGC 2015. We hoped to attend the scientific conference at EGC 2013, but could not find reliable informations. There will be a scientific conference at EGC 2015 as well: http://pasky.or.cz/iggsc2015/ I think a presentation of paper describing your system would find a very interested audience. Maybe Musil will now be able to contact EGC 2015's organizers and catch their interest: Unfortunately, this is not likely to happen - Tomas Musil has other commitments now and didn't have enough time to make Imago production ready in time for such a deployment (i.e. speed much up, error rate much down, video processing, ...). So if it's just up to our software, automatic streaming of boards using Imago on EGC2015 will not happen. (Tomas also started a project that's more interesting for him, a Haskell rewrite of Imago: https://github.com/tomasmcz/imago-hs, if anyone is interested.) it would be a remarkable feat if we could both go and talk about (and, of course, demonstrate) two programs making use of different approaches. For the moment we're planning to do such a thing during the big international Pisa tournament at the beginning of March, but the EGC 2015 would be the ideal stage. That would be great, I think! When planning the deployment, we aimed to first test the software on series of events - in (well lit) Go clubs and on a larger tournament - starting the testing around now to have enough time to test it sufficiently and notice things like sun suddenly coming out of clouds, bumping the table, Go server streaming issues etc. We also wanted to start talking around now to wms (KGS author) about a possibility of extending kgsGTP computer program interface of KGS to demonstration games. I would recommend you to reserve enough time to working out these things too. If the system goes through sufficient prior testing, I think deploying it on EGC2015 would be truly awesome and I would be glad to support it. I cannot promise any significant time commitment to software development or even on-site support, but I can talk to the organizers and consult on technical issues. I think a good time to start discussing this with them would be after a first successful real-world tournament test (even on a small scale like single board). Kind regards and good luck, -- Petr Baudis If you do not work on an important problem, it's unlikely you'll do important work. -- R. Hamming http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/YouAndYourResearch.html ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
On Jan 16, 2015, at 1:51 AM, valky...@phmp.se wrote: I forgot to turn of automatic Power off in Windows so after an hour my computer hibernated. I had started Valkyria again this morning (now using 6 threads) and then CGOS seemed to recover. Maybe CGOS froze because of this? No, CGOS kept running fine after Valkyra disconnected, Christoph ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
I also set up a 13x13 client. Seems to work fine, but rating is off I think. I will let it up for a while, hopefully some anchors coming up:) Thanks a lot for setting it up again, Detlef Am 16.01.2015 um 17:21 schrieb Christoph Birk: On Jan 16, 2015, at 1:51 AM, valky...@phmp.se wrote: I forgot to turn of automatic Power off in Windows so after an hour my computer hibernated. I had started Valkyria again this morning (now using 6 threads) and then CGOS seemed to recover. Maybe CGOS froze because of this? No, CGOS kept running fine after Valkyra disconnected, Christoph ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote: I also set up a 13x13 client. Seems to work fine, but rating is off I think. I will let it up for a while, hopefully some anchors coming up:) Yes, without at least one anchor the whole rating will be problematic. How was the setup again? FatMat fixed at ELO 1800 and a second FatMan to notice rating drift? Urban -- Blog: http://bettong.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ujh Homepage: http://www.urbanhafner.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
I see. I wonder what the correct options for GnuGo are. gnugo --mode gtp --level 0 --chinese-rules --positional-superko --capture-all-dead seems like a good start, right? I will give that a try now ... Urban On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:10 PM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote: FatMan ELO 1800 was for 9x9 as far as I remember, I do not remember what on 13x13. On 19x19 it was GnuGo 3.7 level 10 I think and from some historic results I guess 13x13 gnugo 3.7 level 0 was set to ELO1800 Am 16.01.2015 um 18:31 schrieb Urban Hafner: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Detlef Schmicker d...@physik.de wrote: I also set up a 13x13 client. Seems to work fine, but rating is off I think. I will let it up for a while, hopefully some anchors coming up:) Yes, without at least one anchor the whole rating will be problematic. How was the setup again? FatMat fixed at ELO 1800 and a second FatMan to notice rating drift? Urban -- Blog: http://bettong.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ujh Homepage: http://www.urbanhafner.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing listComputer-go@computer-go.orghttp://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Blog: http://bettong.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ujh Homepage: http://www.urbanhafner.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Urban Hafner cont...@urbanhafner.com wrote: I see. I wonder what the correct options for GnuGo are. gnugo --mode gtp --level 0 --chinese-rules --positional-superko --capture-all-dead seems like a good start, right? I will give that a try now ... It seems to work: http://cgos.boardspace.net/13x13/cross/GnuGo-3.8-level-0.html. I'll leave it running for a while then. Urban -- Blog: http://bettong.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ujh Homepage: http://www.urbanhafner.com/ ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
cgos.boardspace.net http://cgos.boardspace.net/ says: At the current time there is one player called FatMan with a fixed ELO of 1800 on the 9x9 server and Gnugo-3.7.10 at level 10 serves as the anchor player on the 13x13 and 19x19 server, also with a fixed ELO of 1800. Cheers, David G Doshay ddos...@mac.com On 16, Jan 2015, at 11:05 AM, Urban Hafner cont...@urbanhafner.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Urban Hafner cont...@urbanhafner.com mailto:cont...@urbanhafner.com wrote: I see. I wonder what the correct options for GnuGo are. gnugo --mode gtp --level 0 --chinese-rules --positional-superko --capture-all-dead seems like a good start, right? I will give that a try now ... It seems to work: http://cgos.boardspace.net/13x13/cross/GnuGo-3.8-level-0.html http://cgos.boardspace.net/13x13/cross/GnuGo-3.8-level-0.html. I'll leave it running for a while then. Urban -- Blog: http://bettong.net/ http://bettong.net/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ujh https://twitter.com/ujh Homepage: http://www.urbanhafner.com/ http://www.urbanhafner.com/___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
On 01/16/2015 12:03 PM, David Doshay wrote: cgos.boardspace.net http://cgos.boardspace.net says: At the current time there is one player called FatMan with a fixed ELO of 1800 on the 9x9 server and Gnugo-3.7.10 at level 10 serves as the anchor player on the 13x13 and 19x19 server, also with a fixed ELO of 1800. Should we use Gnugo-3.7.10 as the anchor for 9x9 too? It was rated 1858.6 by 'bayeselo'. Christoph ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
Re: [Computer-go] CGOS back online
To prevent the drift, one anchor is enough (at least Don told me so). Hideki Christoph Birk: 54b98df7.7000...@obs.carnegiescience.edu: On 01/16/2015 12:03 PM, David Doshay wrote: cgos.boardspace.net http://cgos.boardspace.net says: At the current time there is one player called FatMan with a fixed ELO of 1800 on the 9x9 server and Gnugo-3.7.10 at level 10 serves as the anchor player on the 13x13 and 19x19 server, also with a fixed ELO of 1800. Should we use Gnugo-3.7.10 as the anchor for 9x9 too? It was rated 1858.6 by 'bayeselo'. Christoph ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go -- Hideki Kato mailto:hideki_ka...@ybb.ne.jp ___ Computer-go mailing list Computer-go@computer-go.org http://computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go
