Re: [Computer-go] do you know King of Tsumego: Panda Sensei on android

2016-10-26 Thread Xavier Combelle 


Le 26/10/2016 à 20:41, David Ongaro a écrit :
>
>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Xavier Combelle
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Le 26/10/2016 à 19:42, David Ongaro a écrit :
>>
>>>
 On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Xavier Combelle
 > wrote:

 but it seems to me there is a problem in this variation proposed by
 Haylee:
 http://eidogo.com/#3z7gfMaeI:0,7 
>>>
>>> You’re right. Instead of q16 B should play t14 immediately.
>>> (Interestingly: if there would be a white stone on t13 it would be a
>>> ‘eternal life' situation (because of the t14, t17, t15, t16, t14
>>> cycle).)
>>>
>> Actually if I don't mistake q16 at t14 don't work it, it was seen in
>> the video and lead to a seki http://eidogo.com/#aA8PgSSk:0,1,0
>
> Without the q19, r18 exchange it would be seki, but after this
> exchange its a roku moku nakade (http://senseis.xmp.net/?RabbittySix}.
> I.e. if W answers t14 at q16, B can play t17, t15, r17, t19, s17 (for
> proving purposes, no need to actually play it unless B has to take
> white out during the game.)
>
>
yes it is rabbity six here the correct sequence (unless I do mistake)
http://eidogo.com/#x4qoDsY6
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Re: [Computer-go] do you know King of Tsumego: Panda Sensei on android

2016-10-26 Thread David Ongaro 

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 11:07 AM, Xavier Combelle  
> wrote:
> Le 26/10/2016 à 19:42, David Ongaro a écrit :
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Xavier Combelle >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> but it seems to me there is a problem in this variation proposed by Haylee: 
>>> http://eidogo.com/#3z7gfMaeI:0,7 
>> 
>> You’re right. Instead of q16 B should play t14 immediately. (Interestingly: 
>> if there would be a white stone on t13 it would be a ‘eternal life' 
>> situation (because of the t14, t17, t15, t16, t14 cycle).)
>> 
> Actually if I don't mistake q16 at t14 don't work it, it was seen in the 
> video and lead to a seki http://eidogo.com/#aA8PgSSk:0,1,0 
> 

Without the q19, r18 exchange it would be seki, but after this exchange its a 
roku moku nakade (http://senseis.xmp.net/?RabbittySix 
}. I.e. if W answers t14 at q16, B can 
play t17, t15, r17, t19, s17 (for proving purposes, no need to actually play it 
unless B has to take white out during the game.)

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Re: [Computer-go] do you know King of Tsumego: Panda Sensei on android

2016-10-26 Thread Xavier Combelle 
Le 26/10/2016 à 19:42, David Ongaro a écrit :

>
>> On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Xavier Combelle
>> > wrote:
>>
>> but it seems to me there is a problem in this variation proposed by
>> Haylee:
>> http://eidogo.com/#3z7gfMaeI:0,7 
>
> You’re right. Instead of q16 B should play t14 immediately.
> (Interestingly: if there would be a white stone on t13 it would be a
> ‘eternal life' situation (because of the t14, t17, t15, t16, t14 cycle).)
>
Actually if I don't mistake q16 at t14 don't work it, it was seen in the
video and lead to a seki http://eidogo.com/#aA8PgSSk:0,1,0

For the full info I didn't copy the full tsumego but only from a
particular point of the video.

Here is the sequence from the start http://eidogo.com/#zHS966X5 (unless
I do mistake)

If anyone is interested and don't want to watch the full video, I can
copy all variations for this tsumego



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Re: [Computer-go] do you know King of Tsumego: Panda Sensei on android

2016-10-26 Thread David Ongaro 

> On Oct 26, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Xavier Combelle  
> wrote:
> 
> but it seems to me there is a problem in this variation proposed by Haylee: 
> http://eidogo.com/#3z7gfMaeI:0,7 

You’re right. Instead of q16 B should play t14 immediately. (Interestingly: if 
there would be a white stone on t13 it would be a ‘eternal life' situation 
(because of the t14, t17, t15, t16, t14 cycle).)

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[Computer-go] do you know King of Tsumego: Panda Sensei on android

2016-10-26 Thread Xavier Combelle 
Hi !
Do you know King of Tsumego: Panda Sensei on android

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pandanet.tsumego=fr

It seem that he won against the best go players during the pair go
championship

http://www.usgo.org/news/2016/07/panda-sensei-tsume-go-challenge-kicks-off-pair-go-world-cup-in-tokyo/

The official page of the event where one can find the problems of the
challenge between man and machine
http://www.pandanet.co.jp/event/PandaSensei/index_e.htm

If you want to see the problem solutions proposed by Haylee, you can
watch Haylee video on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAqXq4pFtNs(It's where I learn about the
competition and the app)

but it seems to me there is a problem in this variation proposed by Haylee:
http://eidogo.com/#3z7gfMaeI:0,7 
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