> "When I click on a youtube video, I don't expect much. But I do expect to > be at least marginally entertained" >
In ancient Rome, the plebeia (commoners) were ruled by a government comprising an Emperor and a Senate. Plebs had no say in how society functioned, but they were allowed to allowed to express themselves by writing on "graffiti walls". YouTube is today's graffiti wall - it is a peer-reviewed medium for communication. Peers make their reviews by adding comments. The video which did not entertain you was not put there to entertain you; instead, it asked for your help, to tell me and anyone else who is curious about how minds perceive the world before them, by way of adding a comment. As this clearly was not self-evident, i have amended the video by adding a description. So thank you for your feedback. "Why not implement your ideas as a computer program?" > seven years ago i was given five years to live. for me, life is too short to waste it by following in the footsteps of Sisyphus. i am writing to this listserv hoping to sow a seed of an idea that others could take up and develop in the future, and hoping to engage in constructive dialogue - which would include technical criticism - to help me crystallise and refine my fundamental premiss, which was outlined in print many years ago [1]. Since that time, i had been unable to pursue it as i had to make a living doing whatever work i could get. Now i am retired, i have the luxury of indulging my curiosity once more, but neither the time nor the skills to complete the task alone. [1] Brown, DJH: Hierarchical Reasoning and the Game of Go. Proc Sixth International Joint Conference on Artificial Intelligence, Tokyo, 114-116, 1979. *Google Books copy : <https://books.google.com.au/books?id=VD_tTdC697cC&pg=PA116&lpg=PA116&dq=AISB+Newsletter+32,+14-17,+1978.&source=bl&ots=wVbxiaG66D&sig=qHjMTNMkB2qXJ3bj8aBfJmEpnMM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMIhPrmorSLxgIVizK8Ch24xwCf#v=onepage&q=AISB Newsletter 32, 14-17, 1978.&f=false>https://books.google.com.au/books?id=VD_tTdC697cC&pg=PA116&lpg=PA116&dq=AISB+Newsletter+32,+14-17,+1978.&source=bl&ots=wVbxiaG66D&sig=qHjMTNMkB2qXJ3bj8aBfJmEpnMM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMIhPrmorSLxgIVizK8Ch24xwCf#v=onepage&q=AISB <https://books.google.com.au/books?id=VD_tTdC697cC&pg=PA116&lpg=PA116&dq=AISB+Newsletter+32,+14-17,+1978.&source=bl&ots=wVbxiaG66D&sig=qHjMTNMkB2qXJ3bj8aBfJmEpnMM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAGoVChMIhPrmorSLxgIVizK8Ch24xwCf#v=onepage&q=AISB> Newsletter 32, 14-17, 1978.&f=false* "the implementation task is huge (man-years)" > i would guess that it would require man-decades, if not centuries. And whereas a camel is a horse that was designed by a committee, many hands make light work, as the Chinese restauranteur demonstrated to his clientele during a power cut. "> the "stupid" monte carlo works so much better." > this observation by David Fotland is empirically valid insofar as it pertains to extant artifacts, but it refers to the past (ie up to now). The future is still open. i will address the issue in a future video, which will include a discussion of what constitutes intelligence, whether artificial or natural. In the meantime, i can share with you my thoughts of a few years ago on the subject: *Monte-Carlo Alien Intelligence Conquers Amsterdam* https://sites.google.com/site/djhbrown2/MoGoCrazyStone.doc Lastly, i have been unable to find any substantive information on how Zen19 works; i suppose that programming Go has become a Sumo wrestling match rather than a cooperative enterprise, and authors are keeping their trade secrets secret. If anyone has any inside information, i would be intrigued to know how Zen has managed to climb that one rank higher than any other, especially as the higher you go, the harder it gets.
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