Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[Michael Markefka]

That looks very interesting. Looking forward to some implementation of this
filtering down to the common ML libs.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Stefan Kaitschick 
wrote:

> Is this something LeelaZero might consider using?
> https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.05407.pdf
> The last diagram is looking very impressive. It's not a game playing
> domain, but still.
> Maybe this averaging technique could help reduce the gap for a
> (relatively) low resource project like Leela.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:28 AM, uurtamo .  wrote:
>
>> 4dan?
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2018 3:26 PM, "mic"  wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start
>>> this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking
>>> time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time.
>>>
>>> Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan
>>> rank, also without GPU support.
>>>
>>> -Michael.
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Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[Stefan Kaitschick]

Is this something LeelaZero might consider using?
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1803.05407.pdf
The last diagram is looking very impressive. It's not a game playing
domain, but still.
Maybe this averaging technique could help reduce the gap for a (relatively)
low resource project like Leela.


On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 12:28 AM, uurtamo .  wrote:

> 4dan?
>
> On Jan 9, 2018 3:26 PM, "mic"  wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start
>> this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking
>> time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time.
>>
>> Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan
>> rank, also without GPU support.
>>
>> -Michael.
>>
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Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[uurtamo .]

4dan?

On Jan 9, 2018 3:26 PM, "mic"  wrote:

> Thank you very much.
>
> It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start
> this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute thinking
> time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger by the time.
>
> Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan
> rank, also without GPU support.
>
> -Michael.
>
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Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[mic]

Thank you very much.

It will play on DGS as LeelaZero19 (without GPU support). I will start 
this night with an unrated test game against FuegoBot, one minute 
thinking time each. Then I will give it a rank, so it can get stronger 
by the time.


Leela 0.11.0 (on DGS as LeelaBot19) has meanwhile reached a weak 4 dan 
rank, also without GPU support.


-Michael.

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Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[mic]

I would like to have a non-GPU version of the WINDOWS-program of LeelaZ 
to be able to run it on my good old machine.

-Michael.

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Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[Petri Pitkanen]

Seems suprisingly strong. Given that no super vcluster availab,´le for
trainning. Have at least on accoutn rated would be nice since in unrated
games people experiment  quite a lot at cost of playing well.

2017-12-29 22:02 GMT+02:00 Brian Sheppard via Computer-go <
computer-go@computer-go.org>:

> Seems like extraordinarily fast progress. Great to hear that.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Computer-go [mailto:computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf
> Of "Ingo Althöfer"
> Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:30 PM
> To: computer-go@computer-go.org
> Subject: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero
>
> Hello in the round,
>
> I am not sure how narrowly people from the list are following the progress
> of Gian Carlo Pascutto's project Zero Leela. Therefore, here are some
> impressions.
>
> The project site is:
> http://zero.sjeng.org/
>
> Shortly before Christmas some guys in the German Go mailing list claimed
> that LeelaZero had not yet reached a 25-kyu rank. To get an own impression
> I (with an inactive rating of 18-kyu) went on KGS and played a free game
> against LeelaZSlow. This version takes exactly 28 seconds per move, even in
> trivial situations. Long paragraph, short outcome: I lost clearly. You can
> download the sgf from here:
> http://files.gokgs.com/games/2017/12/21/GoIngo-LeelaZSlow.sgf
>
> In the meantime the KGS versions of Leela have made considerable progress.
> For instance, yesterday and today two 1-dans and a 3-dan were beaten in
> single games.
> However, Leela also has "strange" weaknesses. The most serious one
> concerns hopeless ladders. The only way out for Leela seems to be to play
> early tengen-like moves (as possible ladder breakers).
> At least three versions of LeelaZero are active:
> LeelaZFast, LeelaZSlow, and LeelZeroT.
>
> As soon as a new "best" LeelaZero version has emerged in selfplay runs (of
> length 400 games) it substitutes the previous version for play on KGS.
> Currently this happens 1 or 2 times per day.
>
> Ingo.
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Re: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[Brian Sheppard via Computer-go]

Seems like extraordinarily fast progress. Great to hear that.

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"Ingo Althöfer"
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2017 12:30 PM
To: computer-go@computer-go.org
Subject: [Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

Hello in the round,

I am not sure how narrowly people from the list are following the progress of 
Gian Carlo Pascutto's project Zero Leela. Therefore, here are some impressions.

The project site is:
http://zero.sjeng.org/

Shortly before Christmas some guys in the German Go mailing list claimed that 
LeelaZero had not yet reached a 25-kyu rank. To get an own impression I (with 
an inactive rating of 18-kyu) went on KGS and played a free game against 
LeelaZSlow. This version takes exactly 28 seconds per move, even in trivial 
situations. Long paragraph, short outcome: I lost clearly. You can download the 
sgf from here:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2017/12/21/GoIngo-LeelaZSlow.sgf

In the meantime the KGS versions of Leela have made considerable progress. For 
instance, yesterday and today two 1-dans and a 3-dan were beaten in single 
games.
However, Leela also has "strange" weaknesses. The most serious one concerns 
hopeless ladders. The only way out for Leela seems to be to play early 
tengen-like moves (as possible ladder breakers).
At least three versions of LeelaZero are active:
LeelaZFast, LeelaZSlow, and LeelZeroT.

As soon as a new "best" LeelaZero version has emerged in selfplay runs (of 
length 400 games) it substitutes the previous version for play on KGS. 
Currently this happens 1 or 2 times per day.

Ingo.
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[Computer-go] Project Leela Zero

[Ingo Althöfer]

Hello in the round,

I am not sure how narrowly people from the list are
following the progress of Gian Carlo Pascutto's project
Zero Leela. Therefore, here are some impressions.

The project site is:
http://zero.sjeng.org/

Shortly before Christmas some guys in the German
Go mailing list claimed that LeelaZero had not yet 
reached a 25-kyu rank. To get an own impression I 
(with an inactive rating of 18-kyu) went on KGS and 
played a free game against LeelaZSlow. This version 
takes exactly 28 seconds per move, even in trivial 
situations. Long paragraph, short outcome: I lost 
clearly. You can download the sgf from here:
http://files.gokgs.com/games/2017/12/21/GoIngo-LeelaZSlow.sgf

In the meantime the KGS versions of Leela have made
considerable progress. For instance, yesterday and today
two 1-dans and a 3-dan were beaten in single games.
However, Leela also has "strange" weaknesses. The most serious
one concerns hopeless ladders. The only way out for Leela
seems to be to play early tengen-like moves (as possible
ladder breakers).
At least three versions of LeelaZero are active:
LeelaZFast, LeelaZSlow, and LeelZeroT.

As soon as a new "best" LeelaZero version has emerged in
selfplay runs (of length 400 games) it substitutes the previous
version for play on KGS. Currently this happens 1 or 2 times
per day.

Ingo.
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